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Gangster culture [An element of rap music has shifted from the ghetto to mainstream]
QMI Agency via Sun Media via Toronto Sun ^ | 2011-08-16 | Ezra Levant

Posted on 08/16/2011 8:31:43 AM PDT by Clive

What was the cause of the riots in the United Kingdom?

This wasn’t a political riot. There wasn’t anything political about it. It wasn’t even race-on-race rioting. It was races rioting together — rioting against the state, and for themselves.

Last week, renowned British historian David Starkey made this point to the BBC: The rioting was just shopping with violence. People sensed a moment of lawlessness and impunity.

But Starkey’s point was an observation, not an explanation. How did thousands of people in the land of the Magna Carta, the land of liberty and law, simply decide to become petty little gangsters?

Starkey referred to a speech made in 1968 by a politician named Enoch Powell, who had warned about unlimited immigration to the U.K., using the phrase “rivers of blood.” Starkey said the violence predicted by Powell had come true — but it wasn’t race versus race.

It was various races together. “The whites have become black,” he said. “A particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic gangster culture has become the fashion.” Uh-oh.

Hundreds of people immediately filed censorship complaints against Starkey and the BBC, and he was widely condemned as a racist.

Perhaps Starkey could have been more careful; he said white had become black — and then immediately became more precise, meaning they had accepted a particular segment of black culture, namely gangsta rap. But his meaning was perfectly clear — to anyone who has listened to rap music, with its glorification of violence and material excess, and who has seen the glamourization of that lifestyle move from ghettos into the cultural mainstream.

What grown men wear hoodies in public? Or their underwear up high and their pants down low? Those aren’t crimes, of course — maybe fashion crimes. But far more serious is the set of values that has been swallowed along with the cultural touchstones of fashion and diction.

Gangsta culture calls women “hos” and “bitches,” a crude misogyny with an undercurrent of a threat of violence. It glamourizes fighting, shooting and even dying in gangland warfare. It holds that the point of wealth is to squander it on bling and champagne.

For some folks, it’s a joke. Take Sacha Baron Cohen, the British comic who created a character called Ali G — a twenty-something white kid trying so hard to be a gangsta.

It was a laugh riot, so over the top it was hilarious. Except that thousands of British kids decided that’s who they wanted to be when they grew up.

As U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron said on Monday, this isn’t just about mimicking some questionable role models. It has become a substitute moral code. Starkey accurately pointed out where it came from, and where it has gone.

When thousands of British thugs decide it’s not a fantasy anymore, but rather a code for living, that’s the time to blow the whistle.

Cameron’s right. This is a slow-motion moral collapse. And the solution is surely not banning rough music or comedy. But being free to talk about it openly, like David Starkey did, is part of the solution, not part of the problem.


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To: Clive

In the 60s kids imitated hippies and peace festivals were everywhere... now kids imitate gangstas and crime and destruction is everywhere. The hippie movement looked to emasculate society (peaceful kids with long hair) whereas the gangsta rap looked to a brutalize society with its violent masculinity. Both are a protest against society and both are embraced by the left.


21 posted on 08/16/2011 9:40:52 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Blind Eye Jones
In the 60s kids imitated hippies and peace festivals were everywhere.

You mean festivals like Altamont?

22 posted on 08/16/2011 9:41:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Clive

From the article:”How did thousands of people in the land of the Magna Carta, the land of liberty and law, simply decide to become petty little gangsters? “

Things started going sideways in Great Britain after WWII when they began buying into socialism.


23 posted on 08/16/2011 10:12:48 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: Diogenesis
I am so totally and shamelessly stealing that!
And plan to use it daily on the appropriate threads.

Thanks for posting it.

24 posted on 08/16/2011 10:18:39 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Clive
Yes. Truly, the source of the world's ills is whatever music the kids are listening to.


25 posted on 08/16/2011 10:25:44 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: Clive

Save for later


26 posted on 08/16/2011 10:51:00 AM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: Clive

You can’t have Crap without rap.


27 posted on 08/16/2011 11:11:56 AM PDT by RickB444 (What one receives without working for, another must work for without receiving.)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, but that festival had Hells Angels as security which was a bad idea — like putting the fox in charge of the hen house.


28 posted on 08/16/2011 11:29:06 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Blind Eye Jones

And wasn’t the Manson Family, technically hippies?


29 posted on 08/16/2011 11:34:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Publius6961

Good add on. This whole thing tells me that the only way to handle rioters is for the general public to get involved and beat the holy hell out of them.


30 posted on 08/16/2011 12:23:56 PM PDT by RC2
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To: dfwgator

Well, you can classify them in the same way as the Weather Underground: “terrorists” fighting the establishment. Manson was considered a guru (kissed the feet of Brian Wilson). But he thought he was ripped off and snubbed by the music industry and I think he staged the killings to look like it was part of an upcoming race war. Just my theory but I think he was getting back at the cool, hip Hollywood/media culture.


31 posted on 08/16/2011 12:33:32 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: IbJensen
Not quite. Some rap actually critiques "gansta" culture.

Despite the name Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise" is a critique of the life-style, not a glorification. The opening lyrics:

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I take a look at my life and realize there's nuthin' left
'Cuz I've been blasting and laughing so long, that
Even my mama thinks that my mind is gone

and the closing chorus

Tell me why are we, so blind to see
That the ones we hurt, are you and me
Tell me why are we, so blind to see
That the ones we hurt, are you and me

and even the tribute reference to Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise created by using the same melody and the same ironic use of "paradise", are a warning against the "gansta" life-style, not an invitation to join it.

32 posted on 08/16/2011 2:01:48 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Clive

I see groups of young white males in cowboy styles hanging out in the car wash most evenings. Closing my eyes while listening to them talk amongst themselves transports me to “da hood” - when I can hear them over the vulgarity blasting from their monster trucks.

When there are families with small children present I ask them to turn it down. They do so with a look that says my time is coming.


33 posted on 08/16/2011 3:32:39 PM PDT by N-R-T (formerly NewRome Tacitus, still cantankerous)
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