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LIVE THREAD: Voters go to the polls in Wisconsin's two final recalls - with links to live updates
Yahoo ^ | 8/16/11 | Brendan O'Brien - Reuters

Posted on 08/16/2011 9:43:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 08/16/2011 6:20:24 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Elections Results from the AP
August 16 Wisconsin recall election results from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

44EAGLE RIVER, Wis (Reuters) - Voters in two Wisconsin State Senate districts head to the polls on Tuesday in the last of nine recall elections triggered by the fight earlier this year over Republican-backed curbs on the union rights of public workers.

In Tuesday's two final special elections, Jim Holperin and Robert Wirch -- two Democrats who opposed the anti-union measure and even fled the state for weeks in an unsuccessful effort to prevent its passage -- are defending their seats.

Holperin seems to be in the tighter race. His rival is Kim Simac, founder of the Northwoods Patriots, a Tea Party group. Though Simac is a political novice, the district has leaned Republican in the three years since Holperin was elected.

No matter who wins, Republican Governor Scott Walker and his Republican allies will retain control of the legislature, where the battle over public workers' union powers was waged earlier this year with public protests, legislative maneuvering and court challenges.

With seven of the nine recalls over, Republicans have managed to keep control of the state senate -- 17 to 16 if they score no wins on Tuesday -- because Democrats failed to unseat three Republican state Senators in the key round of six GOP senate recalls last week.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: holperin; recalls; simac; unions; voters; wi2011; wirch; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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To: Truthsearcher

Nygren was an incumbent member of the assembly. He gathered about 420 signatures, but 22 were thrown out, leaving him with 398. It was a stupid mistake. In a normal election, it would have been enough, but he should have known that the rats would challenge every name on the nomination petitions.

David VanderLeest, the Republican who faced Hansen had many personal issues that pretty much disqualified him from office, including unpaid taxes, domestic violence and questions about serious drug use.


251 posted on 08/16/2011 7:24:14 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: ScottinVA

Langlade, Lincoln, and Vilas counties have yet to report any precincts in Simac’s race and they are the bulk of what’s left. Let’s hope they are wildly GOP.


252 posted on 08/16/2011 7:24:31 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: mwl8787
The GOP blew the race in the 12th. Sheer incompetence

How so? Just curious?

253 posted on 08/16/2011 7:24:31 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: freedomwarrior998

I wonder if re-districting will do anything to those districts? In the Alberta Darling/Sandy Pasch race, Sandy Pasch will be districted out of Alberta’s District. So, had Pasch won, she would have had to move to retain control of that district. Alberta would have run again in the next election.

Im wondering if the re-districting will do anything to firm up these districts for the Gop.


254 posted on 08/16/2011 7:26:52 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Hunton Peck
Ouch.

I wondered about the vague appeals for Simac cash that went out nationally from another WI senator on her behalf. That sheds some light.

255 posted on 08/16/2011 7:26:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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From Facebook:

MacIver Institute
It is all but certain that the current 17-16 GOP majority in the Wis State Senate will remain unchanged as both Dem Senators likely victorious tonight by large margins.
2 minutes ago


256 posted on 08/16/2011 7:27:09 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: MestaMachine
It does bigtimes. I did find Langlade county results, not much hope there:
LANGLADE COUNTY 17 OF 27
AUGUST 16, 2011 COUNTY REPORTING UNITS HAVE REPORTED
RECALL TOTAL
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STATE SENATOR 12TH DISTRICT

REPUBLICAN
KIM SIMAC 2,295

DEMOCRATIC
JIM HOLPERIN 1,942


257 posted on 08/16/2011 7:27:23 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes. Redistricting will help A LOT.


258 posted on 08/16/2011 7:27:32 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: rcrngroup

See post 251.


259 posted on 08/16/2011 7:27:56 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“I smell something”

Barney Franks (D-Fart) strikes again?


260 posted on 08/16/2011 7:30:21 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Resisting Tyranny Since 1-20-2009)
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To: Free Vulcan

They appear to have called it for Wirch in the 22nd.

RESULTS as of Tuesday, Aug 16, 2011 at 09:28 pm CDT
Election Home
Senate Dist. 22 Recall REPORTING 78%
Bob Wirch (D) (inc) 18,676
55%
Jonathan Steitz (R) 15,013
45%

THere is a big, red check mark next to Wirch’s name! :(


261 posted on 08/16/2011 7:30:21 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: mwl8787

I have no clue. People amaze me sometimes.

Sounds like they were able to smear Simac too.


262 posted on 08/16/2011 7:30:48 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: MediaMole

Yes, but as you have said, he “should have known better”. That he didn’t alone makes him a bad candidate. Arrogance and laziness are not traits that just pop up once, if he did it here how can you know that he wouldn’t have done it again later? Maybe he learns his lesson and next time he can do better.


263 posted on 08/16/2011 7:31:10 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Free Vulcan

I don’t understand people. Do they have a deathwish? WHO in the world would vote for their own destruction? Knowingly.


264 posted on 08/16/2011 7:32:46 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Mama always told me if you cain't say something nice/use duct tape. Ever try to ducttape a keyboard?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The AP was lightning quick to call that one....as opposed to last week when they would painfully slow call the races for the Repubs.


265 posted on 08/16/2011 7:32:49 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Hunton Peck

Charles Sykes
SykesCharlie Charles Sykes
Correction: three Dem reps ran.
3 minutes ago

Charles Sykes
SykesCharlie Charles Sykes
Four Dem state reps ran in recalls. No GOP reps made ballot (Nygren ran but was too incompetent to get signatures.)
4 minutes ago


266 posted on 08/16/2011 7:33:13 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yep, at least 75% of the vote in I’d guess. That one’s over. I think Simac is done too but there’s a couple of big counties still to report.


267 posted on 08/16/2011 7:33:56 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
"City of Kenosha,"

Every State has their Rat Holes. Never heard of the place. Must be a beautiful place to live.

268 posted on 08/16/2011 7:34:10 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Hunton Peck

MacIver Inst has called both races for the incumbent Dems.


269 posted on 08/16/2011 7:34:34 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: mwl8787

Isn’t that talking about the Hansen recall a several weeks ago? How did Simac blow it? Again, just curious.


270 posted on 08/16/2011 7:34:49 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Free Vulcan

Dear Wisconsin,
2012!


271 posted on 08/16/2011 7:35:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Mama always told me if you cain't say something nice/use duct tape. Ever try to ducttape a keyboard?)
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To: MestaMachine

It’s like people don’t care as long as they get the govt payments or have their union job. Just cutting their own throats in the end.


272 posted on 08/16/2011 7:37:30 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: rcrngroup
This might help shed light…

Simac has been pilloried during the campaign … for not paying her property taxes on time eight of the last nine years. Source

Looks like a big vetting/recruitment problem.

273 posted on 08/16/2011 7:37:33 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: AGreatPer

Kenosha was formerly the home of American Motors, later bought out by Chrysler. An automotive plant has operated there continuously until just the last 2 years (Obama motors closed the last assembly plant). I’m quite certain that there are a huge number of Union workders still living there.


274 posted on 08/16/2011 7:37:54 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MestaMachine

One thing about it MM, these races are under the old districts. The new districts will be more favorable. Wisconsin needs a fleebag proof GOP majority.


275 posted on 08/16/2011 7:39:14 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: Free Vulcan
It’s like people don’t care as long as they get the govt payments or have their union job.

It's not just LIKE that, it IS that all across the nation.

276 posted on 08/16/2011 7:39:32 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

OK, I see. Well that is a big disappointment that the GOP was not able to effectively find a solid candidate without issues & skelatons in their closet. This recall election against Holperin should have been a slam dunk.


277 posted on 08/16/2011 7:40:39 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: newzjunkey

She was paid up. We sort of have a sliding scale on property taxes here. We can pay them in December (early and eligible for same year IRS deduction) or half in Jan and half in July. Apparently Kim was in the habit of paying 100% in July. One could argue that she was not really late, although I’m sure that she had late fees assessed for the first payment each year.


278 posted on 08/16/2011 7:41:34 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Free Vulcan
Langlade county, all precincts in:
LANGLADE COUNTY 27 OF 27
AUGUST 16, 2011 COUNTY REPORTING UNITS HAVE REPORTED
RECALL TOTAL
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STATE SENATOR 12TH DISTRICT

REPUBLICAN
KIM SIMAC 3,271

DEMOCRATIC
JIM HOLPERIN 3,257

No help in a big county. I think it's over folks.

279 posted on 08/16/2011 7:41:34 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And, like typical union workers, too effing stupid, and with their heads buried deep in their colons, they fail to understand that it was the very union they so cherish that was largely responsible for their jobs going away.


280 posted on 08/16/2011 7:42:33 PM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

>> “Rush said on his radio show today that the Obama bus looks like a hearse.” <<

.
And Obama is the Grim Reaper.


281 posted on 08/16/2011 7:42:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: freedomwarrior998

I had shirttail relatives in Kenosha. I guess the whole town went bust when American Motors closed down. The fact that the union had one shop steward for every 20 workers (10 times the norm of 1/200) didn’t help matters.


282 posted on 08/16/2011 7:42:54 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: All
Good work this year defending important 2010 gains, WI.

Start working now for 2012, picking good candidates, because you know those union fleebaggers would be working twice as hard with Obama at the top of the ticket!

283 posted on 08/16/2011 7:44:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: MestaMachine

Speaking about death.....(almost) by a union worker against non union shop owner. Toledo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2764731/posts


284 posted on 08/16/2011 7:45:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: AGreatPer

>> “City of Kenosha,” <<

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Once home to American Motors, AKA Rambler.


285 posted on 08/16/2011 7:46:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Tells me never bother to run for office here.

The frustrating part of all that is - their policies and tax-and-spend they force on us sets us up for such issues. Then it’s used against us when we try to do something about it.

I say bravo to her for getting her taxes paid, even if late. More than some high-profile Dems bother to do.


286 posted on 08/16/2011 7:46:56 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Hunton Peck

If it were not for Kim I doubt that there would have been a recall of Possum Jim Holperin at all. She did a heck of a lot of organizing to get it this far. I didn’t see a lot of help for her from the republicans until just this last week when the anti-Holperin ads started to show up.

She could have ran a better campaign though. Not showing up for rallies in her support when people expected her to be there did not help at all. I attended the one in Rhinelander and was amazed she was not there to address the large crowd of supporters.

Also, waiting until the last 3 weeks of her campaign to get out some detailed policy positions was just plain negligent.


287 posted on 08/16/2011 7:46:56 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics (Even the hapless Joe Biden would harm the country less than 0bozo. Impeach NOW)
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To: AGreatPer

If you’re going to give Wisconsin an enema, that’s where you’d stick the tube. (I went to college in Kenosha. What a crap heap.)


288 posted on 08/16/2011 7:48:13 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Principle Over Politics
Looks like she is closing, with 71% of the precincts in 118/166, she trails Holperin 53% / 47%. Is it enough to close the gap altogether and into the lead?

Pray that God will defeat the forces of satanic demoRATs tonight in District 12.

289 posted on 08/16/2011 7:51:25 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

The rest of Oneida, the biggest county came in and she got whacked. Lincoln and Florence counties can’t help here, she’s down 3500 votes. Damn.


290 posted on 08/16/2011 7:59:01 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Unfortunately perception is reality in politics.

Democrats play dirty. The true facts are less important than what they can spin them as particularly against an unknown candidate.

I can say when I looked into her after a national fundraising appeal, I saw all these competing headlines about her having tax issues while simply trying to find her campaign website. It left a very bad impression.

291 posted on 08/16/2011 8:02:04 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Free Vulcan

Well this is a depressing end to the evening, especially after the resounding defeat of the unions & dimTurds last week, even with the loss of 2 of 6 last week. What happened today & tonight? Did the GOP voters in those districts not turn out? I have to believe that if every registered GOP voter would have voted today, the results would have been different. What a disappointment. I just wanted at least one RAT to go down.


292 posted on 08/16/2011 8:03:46 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Free Vulcan

Yep, AP called it. We still keep the majority, and did not spend $30 million to do so. My positive spin. But, I do have a frowny face.


293 posted on 08/16/2011 8:04:54 PM PDT by sybilll
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To: Principle Over Politics

A no show? Wow. Mess of a campaign to be sure. Lessons learned.


294 posted on 08/16/2011 8:05:34 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: GR_Jr.

looks like they closed the points spread a bit in one race

State Senate - District 12 - General
August 16, 2011 - 09:58PM CT
Wisconsin - 130 of 166 Precincts Reporting - 78%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Holperin , Jim (i) Dem 23,673 54%
Simac , Kim GOP 20,066 46%

State Senate - District 22 - General
August 16, 2011 - 09:58PM CT
Wisconsin - 99 of 100 Precincts Reporting - 99%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Wirch , Bob (i) Dem 23,405 57%
Steitz , Jonathan GOP 17,703 43%


295 posted on 08/16/2011 8:06:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: rcrngroup

Still holding at 78% of the vote and 130/166 districts. What’s happening? Are the RATs coming up with more mystery votes just to make sure?


296 posted on 08/16/2011 8:08:48 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: 50cal Smokepole
"I went to college in Kenosha."

Yep, you would know the heart of the place better than anyone.

I found it a road sign on the place to somewhere I don't remember.

Think the point is, union slugs still don't get it.
I have them at my bar, out of work and supporting the union. I don't get it but shut up.

297 posted on 08/16/2011 8:10:40 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: rcrngroup

In case anyone bet the spread, here’s the finals for the 22d:

State Senate - District 22 - General
August 16, 2011 - 10:05PM CT
Wisconsin - 100 of 100 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Wirch , Bob (i) Dem 25,541 58%
Steitz , Jonathan GOP 18,838 42%


298 posted on 08/16/2011 8:12:07 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: NormsRevenge

I smell a dead rat


299 posted on 08/16/2011 8:12:52 PM PDT by advertising guy (if a politician from either party was to say hello to me, it should be law I can shoot em)
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To: Free Vulcan
Final numbers for the stats junkies, all precincts in:
State Senate - District 22 - General

B. Wirch (i) (Dem) 	J. Steitz (GOP) 

Total	100/100	 
25,541 58%	18,838 42%

Kenosha	95/95	
23,463 59%	15,975 41%

Racine	4/4	
2,078 42%	2,863 58%

Walworth	
1/1	0 0%	0 0%
Guess no one in Walworth cared about the race!
300 posted on 08/16/2011 8:12:52 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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