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Saudi Arabia Moves to Take Down Syria, Iran and Hezbollah
The National Interest ^ | August 16, 2011 | Bruce Riedel

Posted on 08/16/2011 8:00:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not surprised is my only comment. Other then for that, the sunni and shias can not stand each other.


21 posted on 08/16/2011 10:03:14 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a good move on the Saudis’ part. I wish we had hte guts to do it, but our Dear Leader is in the pocket of the mullahs.


22 posted on 08/16/2011 10:05:45 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: glock rocks; right way right

Their most effective and skilled troops are probably the “National Guard” which is made up of tribal bedouins skilled in desert fighting.

Link:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/sang.htm


23 posted on 08/16/2011 10:16:05 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the saudis open up a case of whoop-ass on Asshat, he will be gone fast. The hezbullah can go to ground and may later emerge in charge of Syria after, is the risk, but more likely the Iranians will have to work in the open to support their client. Could be the Hezbullah and related Hamass will exit stage left to Lebanon en masse and hand Syria over. Right now the Syrian public is very upset with the shootings and are likely to support Saudi intervention.


24 posted on 08/16/2011 10:48:03 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: berdie
To Saudi Arabia:

"What are you prepared to DO about it?"

25 posted on 08/16/2011 11:02:41 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Gore Lauds Romney on Climate Position; 0bamaCare was based on RomneyCare.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Saudi King.... backed up his statement by recalling Saudi Arabia’s ambassador from Damascus,.... Bahrain and Kuwait quickly followed Riyadh’s lead.

Uh OH...... and the tremors continue....

26 posted on 08/16/2011 11:08:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the Assad regime is destroyed, so too will Syrian support for Hezbollah be destroyed. If a new regime emerges that reflects the will of Syria’s majority-Sunni population, it can become a base for destabilizing the Hezbollah-dominated government in Beirut. The power balance in the Levant could be tilted decisively against Hezbollah and undercut Iranian regional influence.

Damascus will fall should this continue...it won't be pretty either.

27 posted on 08/16/2011 11:11:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: shield
leave the USA and our boys out of the powder keg...

We won't have the funds to keep them where they are much longer. Once are boys are taken out of the ME....they will all turn on each other and the winners will unite and go after Israel.

28 posted on 08/16/2011 11:15:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Syria is a secular dictatorship. If the Saudi’s knock them off, you will find a religious (sharia) dictatorship. You decide which will be more crazier.


29 posted on 08/16/2011 11:22:02 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. Gotta admit the Hezbollah angle on this was something I hadn’t given consideration to. It would be wonderful to see that group marginalized, if that is in fact what is ahead.

My perception of the Arab spring was that the Muslim Brotherhood hand in hand with the leadership of Iran was making a play for dominance of the region. I had referred to it as the initial stages of the creation of a United States of Iran.

What led me to think along these lines was Iran’s known blatant
willingness to create trouble in neighboring states, Iraq, Afhanistan, Lebanon, and by proxy in Isreal. No other nation in the Middle East had displayed anything near this degree of determination to assert it’s will
outside it’s borders.

It was a natural to think the so-called Arab Spring was just an expansion
of Iran’s grand master plan.

Now although Syria may have been a part of Iran’s game plan in the past,
it may be that Iran may want complete control wresting that away from Assad with Muslim Brotherhood participation. It seems the real test of that will be what in fact does happen to Hezbollah if Assad falls.

If Assad does fall and Hezbollah remains strong, it should be a key indicator of who was in fact behind the Arab Spring. However, if Hezbollah should be deminished as a result, my reasoning behind my perception regarding Iran’s involvement will appear to have ben faulty.


31 posted on 08/16/2011 11:49:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The Destroyer = anti-US, the West, Christians, Israel, banks, W.S., Corps, & the free enterpr systm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There isn’t a victory for America in the ME. Egypt & Libya were under the control of people the US had or had brought to heel. Don’t ever forget that the Saudi’s aren’t our friends.

They’ve worked hard to spread whabbism throughout the world. Their madrassa’s in Asia, Africa, South and North America, Europe, and Australia breed terror and hardline Islamism. What country provided 19 of the 9/11 hijackers?

What you are seeing is a family feud dating back to 632 AD and the death of Mohammed - the Shia/Sunni split started back then. They’ve been fighting each other to the death ever since. The only side we need to be on is the one doing our bidding and that’s neither, though in this instance the Al Sauds are our nominal allies, but they’d impose Sharia on America in a heartbeat.

This is also an ongoing battle between Arabs and Persians. That’s a centuries long fight as well. Iraq is majority Shia as is Iran. Saudi Arabia is Sunni and is Pan-Arabist, that is they seek to unite all Arabs.

Our best option - develop our own energy resources - coal, nuclear and oil. We’ll never be fully energy independent, but between coal and oil we’ll be able to run our factories/offices, warm/cool our homes, have abundant and cheap electricity, and a greater degree of ‘energy liberty’ than we have now. Oil is hard to replace and the internal combustion engine works well. It will someday be replaced and we can help it along by cutting regulations against improvements like diesel, etc. and getting rid of ethanol and ‘green’ subsidies.

Any energy policy the American government pursues contrary to this is a waste of money and serves our enemies.


32 posted on 08/16/2011 11:58:36 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: right way right

The Saudi’s will need the help of the Israelis.


33 posted on 08/17/2011 12:17:24 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Always Independent
..."Since Israel’s foolish invasion of Lebanon in 1982,..."

Stopped reading the article right then...

The Saudi’s will need the help of the Israelis.

Interesting comment.

34 posted on 08/17/2011 1:34:40 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Yes, I am surprised that alot of posters are openly cheering for the largest supporter of terrorism worldwide, the country where the most terrorists come from. Sunni’s are the masters of terrorism and the biggest sponsors financially of terrorism, they are also the biggest sponsors of opening mosques worldwide. Practically every mosque and all the spread of islam worldwide is attributed to these sunni kingdoms that we are buddying up to regardless of the fact that sunni terrorists have been targetting our forces and aiding terrorism in afghanistan, iraq and are helping terrorism in pakistan. We have already tried to help dislodge some secular leaders in the middle east and we are shooting ourselves or actually our kids in the foot, because all this will come back to bite us in the ass. Let them fight it out and we sohuldnt get involved. When it comes to which is the lesser of the two evils, it is clear shiite islam is lesser than sunni. The problems with hezbollah and syria and iran and israel is a political one, whereas the dream of islam conquering the world is a sunni one.


35 posted on 08/17/2011 1:53:58 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
36 posted on 08/17/2011 2:42:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: hannibaal

Let the sunnis and shias fight each other, the LESS likely it will happen as you said.


37 posted on 08/17/2011 2:50:11 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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"King Abdallah of Saudi Arabia, one of the last absolute monarchs in the world, has called on Syria’s embattled president, Bashar al-Assad, to stop the “killing machine” repressing his own people and accept at least some of the demands of Syrians calling for an end to Assad’s decade old dictatorship."

Ummm...tea...kettle....black
38 posted on 08/17/2011 3:18:38 AM PDT by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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To: The Bronze Titan

Syria-—Not exactly “secular” but then again not exactly as evil as the monstrous Sharia state of Saudi Arabia and their pals the genociding Turks.


39 posted on 08/17/2011 4:47:24 AM PDT by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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To: NonValueAdded

Actually that is not exactly true.

A few months ago I posted some articles about protests in SA. Which is unusual as protests are not permitted. And we might not hear about such events as it is a closed society.

Of all places Wikipedia has a timeline of events that have been happening http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Saudi_Arabian_protests


40 posted on 08/17/2011 5:00:04 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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