Skip to comments.Saudi Arabia Moves to Take Down Syria, Iran and Hezbollah
Posted on 08/16/2011 8:00:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
After months of protests and regime violence, King Abdallah of Saudi Arabia, one of the last absolute monarchs in the world, has called on Syrias embattled president, Bashar al-Assad, to stop the killing machine repressing his own people and accept at least some of the demands of Syrians calling for an end to Assads decade old dictatorship. The king backed up his statement by recalling Saudi Arabias ambassador from Damascus, and its clients Bahrain and Kuwait quickly followed Riyadhs lead.
The Saudis sense a strategic opportunity has opened in Syria, a unique chance to deal a mortal blow to one of their enemies, the Shia terror group Hezbollah, and a serious blow to their regional adversary Iran. Since Israels foolish invasion of Lebanon in 1982, the Syrian regime of Hafez and Bashar Assad has been Irans key partner in creating Hezbollah, arming it to the teeth with thousands of rockets and missiles and sending it to create terror throughout the region. For decades Damascus has allowed Tehran to use its airports and ports to transfer arms to Hezbollah, and more recently it has provided much of its own equipment directly to the Shia group. Iranian Revolutionary Guards have been based in Syria and thousands of Iranian tourists and spies have come to worship at Damascus Sayyidah Zaynab mosque, a traditional Shia holy site and an excellent place for extremists to get together under the protective eye of Syrian intelligence.
It was at the Zaynab mosque that Hezbollah and IRGC operatives met with Saudi Shia in 1996 to plan the attack on the American air force base at Dhahran in the Kingdom. Nineteen Americans were killed in the Khobar barracks attack, and dozens of Saudis were injured in a nearby neighborhood. Iran and Hezbollah orchestrated the attack. The Saudis have seen Hezbollah terror attacks on their neighbor Kuwait in the past and have accused the party of being behind Bahrains troubles this year. On top of all this the United Nations has determined Hezbollah responsible for the murder of the pro-Saudi former Lebanese prime minsiter Rafiq Harriri in 2005. The Saudi grudge against Hezbollah is deep.
The al-Sauds were especially outraged this July when pro-Assad demonstraters in Damascus and other Syrian cities hoisted Hezbollah flags along side Syrian flags to celebrate the anniversary of Bashars assumption of power after his fathers death in 2000. A key editorial in the Saudi paper Asharq al-Awsat at the time warned that this blatant display of support for Hezbollah was a step too far for the House of Saud, saying the al-Assad regime is now wrapping itself in the flag of Hezbollah a group that targets Sunni leaders and Sunni interests. This editorial prefigured Abdallahs public remarks this month.
Riyadh worries that Assad will be replaced by chaos, but it has now come to the conclusion the risk is worth the price. If the Assad regime is destroyed, so too will Syrian support for Hezbollah be destroyed. If a new regime emerges that reflects the will of Syrias majority-Sunni population, it can become a base for destabilizing the Hezbollah-dominated government in Beirut. The power balance in the Levant could be tilted decisively against Hezbollah and undercut Iranian regional influence.
Abdallah spoke with President Barack Obama at the end of last week,and both called for an end to the Syrian regimes repression of its people. Undoubtedly the Saudis have also urged Washington to see the strategic opportunity in Syria. Washington and Riyadh will certainly continue to disagree on the merits of democracy in the Arab world, but they can cooperate on fighting Hezbollah. For the Saudis the time has come to settle scores with an old adversary.
the west is afraid to take iran on.
the sunnis and shia hate each other.
the saudis see themselves increasingly surrounded by iran’s proxies.
If Assad is deposed Syrian support for Hezbollah will be destroyed? I don’t think so. More likely it would increase plus the Christian minority would be in much more danger.
If the Saudis actually have the fortitude to accomplish this, it will be amazing. Unfortunately all the countries in the Middle East except Israel seem to be paper tigers. And what is the deal with women prohibited from driving an automobile?
“Saudis sense a strategic opportunity has opened in Syria, a unique chance to deal a mortal blow to one of their enemies, the Shia terror group Hezbollah, and a serious blow to their regional adversary Iran”
Yet, the saudis ride the wahabi tiger and will probably face the same sort of uprising.
He'd better be careful who's side he takes here. Because he and his empire are next!
The analysis is cogent and plausible.
I was listening to WBAP this morning and heard Congressman Burgess say that there would be 193 troops in Iraq by December 23rd and that the draw down was going at a furious pace. People and equipment on their way to Kuwait.
Iran is not yet getting frisky as I have expected so the troop presence must not be far away.
Their pilots shone during GW1.
The only thing that will truly take down Iran is the same thing that took down the Soviet Union without firing a shot: Deregulating the American economy. When oil prices fell as a result, the Russian military machine was without a supporting source of cash. Collapse was then inevitable as there was no other producing basis for the economy.
If true, it could be interesting.
The Saudis have the power in that part of the world.
Mecca and Medina are in Saudi Arabia; this may be their trump card in the world of Islam.
I don’t know enough to comment further, but will say “Fascinating.”
ROFL, oh my, this is the funniest piece of fiction I’ve ever read.
The ruling family in Saudia Arabia are like Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan. Total losers and posers.
Yeah, Saudia Arabia demands things from Syria and Iran, etc.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
I believe the crap coming out of Obama’s mouth before this.
Saudi Arabia is about the only country over there not boiling over with unrest. Sounds like the King has decided it is time to nip it. Self-preservation can be a powerful motivator.
It may be a “strategic opportunity” but how can they do it? They are a mess. This can’t be done without yet more American lives lost. How many darn countries are we in now anyway? I’m all for killing terrorists anywhere and everywhere, and smashing Hezbollah too which is evil incarnate. But all this things come with a price...a price usually in American lives and dollars.
Look for Hezbollah and Syrian mischief against Israel. That would change the game instantly.
Pretty good summary. Spot on.
The thousands of royal family princes in the union will go on strike like Verizon landline workers.
They’ll march and threaten to give up the cocaine, booze, prostitutes in Red Sea resorts until Iran and the Shiites are defeated.
We need to be OUT of the ME...present administration can’t be trusted therefore get our soldiers completely out of any combat action...IF the Saudis’ want these countries taken out then by all means do it...just leave the USA and our boys out of the powder keg...
The Saudis have signed a contract with General Dynamics to upgrade all their M1 Tanks (130). The work wil be done at the G.D. Lima, Ohio plant. I believe they also want to buy several hundred of the latest version of the Bradley and other heavy combat vehicles from BAE.
Not surprised is my only comment. Other then for that, the sunni and shias can not stand each other.
This is a good move on the Saudis’ part. I wish we had hte guts to do it, but our Dear Leader is in the pocket of the mullahs.
Their most effective and skilled troops are probably the “National Guard” which is made up of tribal bedouins skilled in desert fighting.
If the saudis open up a case of whoop-ass on Asshat, he will be gone fast. The hezbullah can go to ground and may later emerge in charge of Syria after, is the risk, but more likely the Iranians will have to work in the open to support their client. Could be the Hezbullah and related Hamass will exit stage left to Lebanon en masse and hand Syria over. Right now the Syrian public is very upset with the shootings and are likely to support Saudi intervention.
"What are you prepared to DO about it?"
Uh OH...... and the tremors continue....
Damascus will fall should this continue...it won't be pretty either.
We won't have the funds to keep them where they are much longer. Once are boys are taken out of the ME....they will all turn on each other and the winners will unite and go after Israel.
Syria is a secular dictatorship. If the Saudi’s knock them off, you will find a religious (sharia) dictatorship. You decide which will be more crazier.
I skimmed the article, found it interesting, and went right to the FR comments above.
And I spotted this in quotes, and went back and confirmed its in the article:
“Since Israels foolish invasion of Lebanon in 1982, the Syrian regime of Hafez and Bashar Assad has been Irans key partner in creating Hezbollah...”
I went to the original site to see who writes such interesting analysis and found them to be a bunch of bootlickers of the screw-Israel crowd of Chas Freeman/ Mearsheimer and Walt.
They seem particularly in lust with MJ Rosenberg, the arch -self-loathing, jihadi-commie feces polisher of all time.
If I meet any of these jihadi-enthusiasts, I would consider it a prime honor to stick my boot up their rear ends.
Interesting. Gotta admit the Hezbollah angle on this was something I hadn’t given consideration to. It would be wonderful to see that group marginalized, if that is in fact what is ahead.
My perception of the Arab spring was that the Muslim Brotherhood hand in hand with the leadership of Iran was making a play for dominance of the region. I had referred to it as the initial stages of the creation of a United States of Iran.
What led me to think along these lines was Iran’s known blatant
willingness to create trouble in neighboring states, Iraq, Afhanistan, Lebanon, and by proxy in Isreal. No other nation in the Middle East had displayed anything near this degree of determination to assert it’s will
outside it’s borders.
It was a natural to think the so-called Arab Spring was just an expansion
of Iran’s grand master plan.
Now although Syria may have been a part of Iran’s game plan in the past,
it may be that Iran may want complete control wresting that away from Assad with Muslim Brotherhood participation. It seems the real test of that will be what in fact does happen to Hezbollah if Assad falls.
If Assad does fall and Hezbollah remains strong, it should be a key indicator of who was in fact behind the Arab Spring. However, if Hezbollah should be deminished as a result, my reasoning behind my perception regarding Iran’s involvement will appear to have ben faulty.
There isn’t a victory for America in the ME. Egypt & Libya were under the control of people the US had or had brought to heel. Don’t ever forget that the Saudi’s aren’t our friends.
They’ve worked hard to spread whabbism throughout the world. Their madrassa’s in Asia, Africa, South and North America, Europe, and Australia breed terror and hardline Islamism. What country provided 19 of the 9/11 hijackers?
What you are seeing is a family feud dating back to 632 AD and the death of Mohammed - the Shia/Sunni split started back then. They’ve been fighting each other to the death ever since. The only side we need to be on is the one doing our bidding and that’s neither, though in this instance the Al Sauds are our nominal allies, but they’d impose Sharia on America in a heartbeat.
This is also an ongoing battle between Arabs and Persians. That’s a centuries long fight as well. Iraq is majority Shia as is Iran. Saudi Arabia is Sunni and is Pan-Arabist, that is they seek to unite all Arabs.
Our best option - develop our own energy resources - coal, nuclear and oil. We’ll never be fully energy independent, but between coal and oil we’ll be able to run our factories/offices, warm/cool our homes, have abundant and cheap electricity, and a greater degree of ‘energy liberty’ than we have now. Oil is hard to replace and the internal combustion engine works well. It will someday be replaced and we can help it along by cutting regulations against improvements like diesel, etc. and getting rid of ethanol and ‘green’ subsidies.
Any energy policy the American government pursues contrary to this is a waste of money and serves our enemies.
The Saudi’s will need the help of the Israelis.
Stopped reading the article right then...
The Saudis will need the help of the Israelis.
Yes, I am surprised that alot of posters are openly cheering for the largest supporter of terrorism worldwide, the country where the most terrorists come from. Sunni’s are the masters of terrorism and the biggest sponsors financially of terrorism, they are also the biggest sponsors of opening mosques worldwide. Practically every mosque and all the spread of islam worldwide is attributed to these sunni kingdoms that we are buddying up to regardless of the fact that sunni terrorists have been targetting our forces and aiding terrorism in afghanistan, iraq and are helping terrorism in pakistan. We have already tried to help dislodge some secular leaders in the middle east and we are shooting ourselves or actually our kids in the foot, because all this will come back to bite us in the ass. Let them fight it out and we sohuldnt get involved. When it comes to which is the lesser of the two evils, it is clear shiite islam is lesser than sunni. The problems with hezbollah and syria and iran and israel is a political one, whereas the dream of islam conquering the world is a sunni one.
Let the sunnis and shias fight each other, the LESS likely it will happen as you said.
Syria-—Not exactly “secular” but then again not exactly as evil as the monstrous Sharia state of Saudi Arabia and their pals the genociding Turks.
Actually that is not exactly true.
A few months ago I posted some articles about protests in SA. Which is unusual as protests are not permitted. And we might not hear about such events as it is a closed society.
Of all places Wikipedia has a timeline of events that have been happening http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Saudi_Arabian_protests
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
This may not take long for the winners to emerge, as we are witnessing much in one year. Probable outcome (your opinion) is my opinion also. Estimate (guess) could be one year to a maximum of five years before the winners emerge.
I’m not sure the Israeli action in Lebanon was a success. Was it?
In light of the comments made yesterday by the Turkey’s FM, this is rather interesting . . .
UN says withdraws non-essential staff from Syria (Reuters)
Have you seen women drive???
Galrahn over at Information Dissemination picking up on this story as well -
Galrahn Raymond Pritchett
So is the UN staff withdrawal from Syria a response to the warnings by the Turkish FM? Is Turkey signaling military action?
13 minutes ago
“And what is the deal with women prohibited from driving an automobile?”
That would be a blessing.
“Sayyidah Zaynab mosque, a traditional Shia holy site and an excellent place for extremists to get together under the protective eye of Syrian intelligence.”
Great line. All mosques are gathering points for terrorism, regardless of the sect.
Of the nineteen hijackers who attacked this nation on September 11, 2001, fifteen were Saudi Arabian. Moreover, each and every one of the nineteen hijackers was personally chosen and provided with training and financing by yet another Saudi native Osama bin Laden. Yet from that day to this, in spite of these disturbing and incontrovertible facts, members of the Bush administration have glibly and incessantly insisted that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is one of our closest friends and allies in the War on Terror. Fifteen Saudis murdered nearly 3,000 Americans on live TV, all at the behest of one of the Kingdoms prodigal sons. How can these basic facts about 9/11 possibly be mere trivia?
In fact, they are just the tip of the iceberg. In the years since September 11, a growing body of evidence has emerged illuminating the central role Saudi nationals have played in the rise of Al Qaeda and its terrorist attacks against the United States.
KING FAUD SPEAKS
“I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave.”
King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993
If this is to actually happen, I pray that the level of bloodshed reaches beyond any other ME war. Should the outcome force the house of saud to fall, and they flee their little, Hell on Earth, I hope they are tracked down and slaughtered like the koranimals that they are.
As far at the demonic trilogy in this article is concerned (saudi arabia, kuwait,bahrain) they are among the largest contributors to terrorism worldwide, minus qatar but I’m sure they will collapse too if this dream comes true.
I would hope Israel would take advantage of their enemies being preoccupied.
Here I sit wishing I were God again. (I'm definitely not)