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I don't know, so I'm an atheist libertarian
CNN Opinion ^ | 8/16/11 | Penn Jillette

Posted on 08/18/2011 6:40:21 AM PDT by Haiku Guy

I try to claim that I was friends with the genius Richard Feynman...

(snip)

Last week I was interviewed for Piers Morgan's show (which used to be Larry King's show). Piers beat me up a bit for being an atheist (that's his job) and then beat me up a bit for being a libertarian (also his job). He did this by asking me impossible questions, questions that none of us, Harold, Richard, me, (or Piers), could ever answer.

He started with "How did you get here?" and I started talking about my road to showbiz and atheism and he interrupted and said he meant how the universe was created. I said, "I don't know."

(snip)

It's amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness.

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Penn Jillette is an interesting guy. Don't always agree with him, but he is an interesting guy.

I think he's right on the money about government, here.

About matters of faith, I think he kind of misses the point. But that's OK. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

1 posted on 08/18/2011 6:40:29 AM PDT by Haiku Guy
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To: Haiku Guy

Penn, that’s why it’s called ‘faith’...........................


2 posted on 08/18/2011 6:43:58 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Haiku Guy
I agree with you.

His show with Teller, “Bullshit” is worth watching.

3 posted on 08/18/2011 6:46:07 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Haiku Guy

If Gillette was a socialist the athiest issue would have never come up, Piers would have just commended Gillette for his great intelligence. I’ll take an athiest libertarian over a believing socialist any day, and I say that as a devout Christian.


4 posted on 08/18/2011 6:47:18 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Haiku Guy

If he didn’t think he knew he’d be an agnostic, not an atheist.


5 posted on 08/18/2011 6:48:11 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Haiku Guy

A worthy read.

I’ll let the anti-liberty Paul Derangement Syndrome sufferers here explain where Penn goes wrong in his analysis of government.


6 posted on 08/18/2011 6:48:38 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: HerrBlucher

Penn strikes me as somebody you can talk to about matters of faith. I would not give up on him. (Of course, I would try not to give up on anybody...)


7 posted on 08/18/2011 6:50:06 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be a slave)
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To: Haiku Guy
I don't believe the majority always knows what's best for everyone. The fact that the majority thinks they have a way to get something good does not give them the right to use force on the minority that don't want to pay for it. If you have to use a gun, I don't believe you really know jack. Democracy without respect for individual rights sucks. It's just ganging up against the weird kid, and I'm always the weird kid.

Excellent Penn

to quote Franklin:

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

8 posted on 08/18/2011 6:52:43 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Red Badger
Penn, that’s why it’s called ‘faith’...........................

which is his constitutional right, NOT to have...

9 posted on 08/18/2011 6:54:18 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Haiku Guy

“Penn Jillette is an interesting guy. Don’t always agree with him, but he is an interesting guy.”

I agree. I have read a couple of his articles here and there and I’ve gathered he’s a full on libertarian. The great thing about that is, he doesn’t want to inflict his views and morals upon me.

I’m not an evangelical. I don’t feel compelled to save Penn Jillette, (and he’s thankful for that I’m sure). I can live with his choice of atheism. But, in the final accounting, will he?


10 posted on 08/18/2011 6:55:22 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: Vaquero

Taxation is not Charity.

They should print that on the money.


11 posted on 08/18/2011 6:55:28 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be a slave)
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To: Mount Athos

If I understand his reasoning here, he says in saying you’re an agnostic you’re saying you don’t know if God exists. Therefore, you do not believe in God which makes you an atheist.


12 posted on 08/18/2011 7:00:18 AM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Bill Maher, maybe? :)


13 posted on 08/18/2011 7:02:53 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Beelzebubba

there is a huge difference between a libertarian and a Libertarian....

just because a ‘party’ takes a name and decides upon a platform, does not necessarily follow that the name they take describes said party.....

for instance look at the Democratic party...boy, if there was ever a party with a contradictory name.


14 posted on 08/18/2011 7:02:54 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: HerrBlucher

I agree with that opinion!


15 posted on 08/18/2011 7:14:19 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Haiku Guy

I guess I’d have to tell Penn the way I really, finally KNEW that the Bible is right, there is an afterlife and Jesus is Lord and Saviour.

I simply read up on what happened to the Apostles. Their deaths. All but one were killed in horrible ways and could have stopped it, saved their own lives by denouncing Jesus and admitting it was all a fraud. Now, you torture me and I WILL tell you where my wife hides the egg money. I’ll tell you anything to make it stop.

Not those men. They wouldn’t denounce Jesus. They wouldn’t say that His ministry was a fraud. Even knowing that they were going to be tortured to death, they would not turn their backs on Christ.

Now as a former cop, I see that kind of dedication, that loyalty and it says to me that these men believe Him and they WALKED with him. The technology did not exist at the time to fake all that stuff. Jesus is real, Jesus is the Son of God and He is coming back.

That’s how I came to my faith. More of an investigatory way, rather than an emotional way. I wonder if anyone has ever tried that tack with Mr. Gillette.


16 posted on 08/18/2011 7:15:29 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Bachmann, Cain, Palin, Santorum, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: Haiku Guy
About matters of faith, I think he kind of misses the point. But that's OK.

Right on.

17 posted on 08/18/2011 7:16:46 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Beelzebubba

He nor Wrong Paul are wrong in their analysis of government spending. Penn is wrong on God. Paul is wrong on almost everything else.


18 posted on 08/18/2011 7:17:41 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Bachmann, Cain, Palin, Santorum, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: Vaquero
which is his constitutional right, NOT to have...

Oh, God, not this again.
19 posted on 08/18/2011 7:20:08 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: Haiku Guy

I’m a Disciple of Christ, but I love Penn Jillette. He is more honest than most of the people in my congregation.


20 posted on 08/18/2011 7:23:55 AM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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