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Let's just let rich liberals pay higher taxes
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | 8/18/11 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 08/19/2011 5:11:52 AM PDT by rhema

Some rich Americans will not rest until Washington boosts their taxes.

Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett, Earth's second-wealthiest inhabitant, complains that last year he paid $6,938,744 in federal income taxes, just 17.4 percent of his taxable income.

Twenty of his staffers earned much less than he did, but "their tax burdens ranged from 33 percent to 41 percent," Buffet recently wrote ("Please Tax Me. I Can Take It," August 16). Rather than work to cut his colleagues' taxes, the $50 Billion Man wants Uncle Sam to hike his liability.

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Assistant House Democratic Leader James Clyburn of South Carolina echoed it faithfully when he told MSNBC on July 25 that "98 percent of the American people are carrying this [tax] load while the other 2 percent seem to be getting away Scot-free."

The facts torpedo this unsinkable rubbish.

In 2008, the latest Internal Revenue Service figures confirm, the top 1 percent of tax filers earned 20 percent of adjusted gross income and paid 38 percent of income tax revenues. The top 5 percent earned 34.7 percent of AGI and paid 58.7 percent of income taxes.

The top 10 percent earned 45.8 percent of AGI and paid 69.9 percent of income taxes. Meanwhile, as the Tax Foundation's analysis revealed, the bottom 50 percent earned 12.75 percent of AGI and paid 2.7 percent of income tax revenues.

Regarding all federal taxes (capital gains, corporate, death, dividends, excise, income, payroll) an April 2009 Congressional Budget Office study found that for 2006 (the latest numbers), the top 1 percent paid 28.3 percent of all federal taxes.

The top 5 percent paid 44.7 percent, and the top 10 percent paid 55.4 percent of taxes. The bottom 40 percent paid just 4.9 percent of all federal taxes in 2006.

Rich liberals seem

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: buffet; damon; fyi; taxes

1 posted on 08/19/2011 5:11:57 AM PDT by rhema
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To: MplsSteve
While these millionaires and billionaires bellow their desire for higher taxes, virtually none bothers to pay extra. In Fiscal Year 2010, this gift fund received a whopping $1,527,313.54 -- enough to fuel the federal leviathan for literally 13 seconds.
2 posted on 08/19/2011 5:13:30 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

A 50% surtax on anything produced in Hollywood?


3 posted on 08/19/2011 5:13:50 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: sauropod

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4 posted on 08/19/2011 5:16:37 AM PDT by sauropod (ObaMao: Let them eat peas!)
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To: rhema

Citizens who wish to make a general donation to the U.S. government may send contributions to a specific account called “Gifts to the United States.” This account was established in 1843 to accept gifts, such as bequests, from individuals wishing to express their patriotism to the United States. Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs. These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.

Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782

http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html

The system is already in place to pay more. Why don’t they use it?


5 posted on 08/19/2011 5:16:54 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rhema

For the uber rich like Buffet, income and wealth are far different

Armies of CPA’s and law firms are paid well to minimize income, and preserve wealth

See my (co-opted) tagline

Buffet needs to rescind his plan to leave half his estate to a tax shelter run by his man-buddy Bill Gates- then talk


6 posted on 08/19/2011 5:23:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (The super rich do not pay taxes, they collect taxes.)
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To: thackney

“The system is already in place to pay more. Why don’t they use it?”

Psychotics never behave rationally.

IMHO


7 posted on 08/19/2011 5:24:05 AM PDT by ripley
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To: rhema

“The rich”

“The jews”

“The blacks”

“The gays”

“The hispanics”

The champions of “minority rights” feel no guilt over attacking (verbally and physically) one of the minorities listed above.


8 posted on 08/19/2011 5:34:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: DEADROCK

I think there should be an income surtax of 90% on salaries and benefits of all elected officials.

They created the mess let them help pay for it. It will serve as an inducement to not make an elected office a career choice.


9 posted on 08/19/2011 5:40:53 AM PDT by ZULU (McConnell and Boehner are the Judas and Ephialtes of the 21st Century)
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To: rhema; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
These rich Democrats keep beating the drum on higher taxes while taking advantage of all the loop-holes and clueless Republicans just repeat their points over and over like “ Americans are overtaxed ” while Democrats keep saying things like “ We need to ask the rich to pay more.. ” or “ The rich dont even want these tax cuts..

Republicans need to learn how to fight back. Put a bill up in the House for a vote called the :
Asking the millionaires and billionaires who want to pay more, to pay more to pay down the deficit Fairness Act
that sets up an purely voluntary online direct $$$ transfer system like online bill pay or paypal to the treasury to make it easier for them to give up THEIR own money and make public the names and sizes of donations to the fund. Let congressional Democrats vote against that.

To Congressional Republicans:
STOP DEFENDING RICH LIBERALS WHO KEEP CLAIMING THEY WANT TO PAY MORE. THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT OVERTAXED IF THEY KEEP GOING ON TV CLAIMING THEY WANT TO PAY HIGHER TAXES ! CALL THEIR BLUFF AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO THROW AWAY THEIR MONEY+ THEN CALL THEM OUT FOR BEING HYPOCRITES AND LIARS WHEN THEY DONT!

10 posted on 08/19/2011 5:42:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

And part of the bill needs to say “Those who sacrifice more for their country will be recognized on the house floor each Monday.

This will show just how many the rich file 1040EZ. hee hee


11 posted on 08/19/2011 5:56:12 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: rhema
Eliminate all pensions for elected officals.

Eliminate all Secret Service protection for all ex-elected officials.

This alone would save billions.

12 posted on 08/19/2011 5:56:32 AM PDT by sniper63 (Ever wonder why they call themselves Hamas, but don't eat pork?)
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To: rhema

Tax these clowns on their accumulated wealth, not just their income—They’ll change their tune pretty quick.


13 posted on 08/19/2011 6:24:55 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: rhema
I always agreed with this. They should tax newspapers tv networks(make an exception for Fox). Also, lawyers,union bosses and entertainment royalties. The left has been very good at gettting results from Alinsky’s tactics and one of his tactics is to make sure the other guys live up to thier beliefs and it is high time to do so. If the libs want to raise taxes then we should have bargaining power to use it our way. That also divides Rich lib's vs the lower class ones.
14 posted on 08/19/2011 6:25:48 AM PDT by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: sickoflibs
only problem with that, is that there are a few diehard commies who would use the opportunity to write a check for the 'see, i did it' effect...and prolly only after a kickback was guarenteed outta da treasury...

kinda like taxes now...

15 posted on 08/19/2011 6:27:00 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Arm_Bears
Tax these clowns on their accumulated wealth, not just their income—They’ll change their tune pretty quick.”

Also don't forget a person invests in business and puts money in capitol investments(plants, equipment, trucks etc) He is subject to property taxes. A person also invests in higher education to make money so why not tax higher(liberal) degree holders for their degrees as property taxes.

16 posted on 08/19/2011 6:29:35 AM PDT by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: Terry Mross; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”And part of the bill needs to say “Those who sacrifice more for their country will be recognized on the house floor each Monday. This will show just how many the rich file 1040EZ. hee hee

You understand exactly what I am getting at. If the bill made it legal to post the donations at a website then we can do the job of calling these rich liberals (private citizens) out as hypocrites and liars, something Republicans in congress should not be doing except maybe in Deficit hearings (that would be fun to call them in and ask why they havent donated yet after stating that they want to, OK, just a thought LOL.).

I am endlessly frustrated with Democrats every day coming up with new attack strategies and clueless Republicans acting as if they just win without saying anything new. In some ways it reminds me of Democrats vs Bush, but not as bad because Obama is still the POTUS and Dems cant get away from that.

17 posted on 08/19/2011 6:32:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: rhema

Rich liberals want taxes raised on other rich people (who tend to be far less rich) who can’t afford an army of accountants that find legal and questionably legal ways to shelter and avoid/evade taxes.
If taxes are raised people like Buffet won’t pay, but a married coulple with a combined income of 250k in a high cost of living state will pay.


18 posted on 08/19/2011 6:47:26 AM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: bilhosty

All excellent points.

I’ve long maintained that all Ivy League degree holders should be assessed an additional $100,000.00 annually just for the aggravation their sort causes to those of us who make the country work.

Add to that a $100,000,000.00 annual assessment on each Ivy League school, and a 50% annual assessment on their endowments, and you’re talking about a nice piece of change.

Oh, and by the way, since their endowments are so unfairly large, no federal money in any way, shape, or form should go to Ivy League schools.


19 posted on 08/19/2011 6:49:30 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: rhema
yup, paying taxes is voluntary... or so the IRS says anyway, so why.............. don't the RATs pay what they think they should be taxed and STFU???
20 posted on 08/19/2011 2:41:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: sickoflibs
RE: "I am endlessly frustrated with Democrats every day coming up with new attack strategies and clueless Republicans acting as if they just win without saying anything new."
I can appreciate that observation.
21 posted on 08/19/2011 6:02:11 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: rhema

Jeez, the top 1% already pay almost 40% of all federal income tax receipts. How on earth can they call them greedy? The income tax system is super-progressive in nature.


22 posted on 08/20/2011 10:11:28 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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