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In South Bay, 99 percent of you are online tax cheats -- best in the state
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 8/19/2011 | Mike Rosenberg

Posted on 08/20/2011 7:45:47 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

Santa Clara County consumers, take heart: When it comes to reporting your taxes on online and other out-of-state purchases, you're the most honest bunch in the state.

But don't pat yourself on the back just yet: 99 percent of you still cheat on your taxes.

A new report released Friday from the state's tax collectors found that just 0.42 percent of California residents actually reported their out-of-state purchases on their 2009 tax returns. The South Bay led the state at a whopping rate of 1.03 percent.

Carl Guardino, CEO of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group, attributes this partly to the South Bay's wealth. Silicon Valley residents, he said, also are more aware of the rules surrounding online buys.

Online retailers such as Amazon.com and Overstock.com historically had not charged sales tax to California consumers. It's been up to the honesty of the buyer to report the purchases when filing their annual state tax returns.

But nearly everyone ignores this law, saving the average person $170 per year while costing the state more than $2 billion at a time of severe budget cuts. Instead, the tax generated a paltry $10.4 million for the state.

"This is as surprising as the sun coming up or California having good weather," Guardino said. "A voluntary system that few people know about that depends on consumers to take an extra step at tax time, earns these results, where more than 99 out of every 100 people either aren't aware of it (or) don't do it."

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: liberals; taxes; whatdidyouexpect
Ha! Why aren't all the libs in California paying their fair share? Why are they cheating? The compliance rate should be about 70% if they were honest. But they always want somebody else to pay.
1 posted on 08/20/2011 7:45:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
But nearly everyone ignores this law, saving the average person $170 per year while costing the state more than $2 billion at a time of severe budget cuts.

Squeal like a pig, b1tches.

2 posted on 08/20/2011 7:51:27 AM PDT by Gorzaloon ("Mother...My Couric itches.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I've been called a tax cheat for refusing to calculate and send in use tax on my Internet purchases (and I suppose I am, but with over 99% noncompliance there are a whole lot of conservatives, liberals and moderates doing the same thing). My argument is that I'm not unwilling to pay the tax, in fact if the state wants to keep track of my purchases and send me a bill, or tax my purchase at the time of transaction, that's fine. But I make hundreds of Internet purchases a year, most under $50 dollars, but some as high as thousands. I'm just not willing to waste my time keeping track of hundreds of receipts, trying to figure out which ones withheld tax and which ones didn't, calculating it and sending it in.
3 posted on 08/20/2011 7:54:47 AM PDT by apillar
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The links do not work for me.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 7:55:38 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (Write In Sarah Palin)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What? Don’t the Obummer liberals want to redistribute their wealth? I find that hard to believe. (sarc)


5 posted on 08/20/2011 7:56:55 AM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: TaxPayer2000

Links work for me. Maybe you have to register on the site to read their stuff. You get the gist of it in the excerpt.


6 posted on 08/20/2011 8:04:29 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

When I buy something directly from Amazon, it ships from Nevada. Why does CA think it should get a cut? Does Amazon have a store in CA?


7 posted on 08/20/2011 8:09:39 AM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

North Carolina lets you report online/out of state purchases, or they will calculate it for you. Since this is usually based on income, they don’t come up with a significant amount owed by me.

So, I let them calculate and I don’t have the hassle of keeping records. Plus, I estimate that I pay less this way.


8 posted on 08/20/2011 8:11:47 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
99 percent of you still cheat on your taxes.

Because all liberals cheerfully and dutifully pay their "fair share", right?


9 posted on 08/20/2011 8:14:13 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The more you raise taxes, the harder people will try to avoid paying them.

Will we EVER learn?


10 posted on 08/20/2011 8:26:10 AM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: apillar

The people are the final judge on any law; not politicians, not judges.

When the people decide not to comply for whatever reason, the law becomes unenforceable.

That is the whole idea behind civil disobedience. Segregation was the law, now it’s not because people stopped obeying it. It was only after the people decided the law was no longer the law that politicians caught up.


11 posted on 08/20/2011 8:31:09 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: LostInBayport
You forgot one.....


12 posted on 08/20/2011 8:41:40 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: ErnBatavia

It is outrageous...OUTRAGEOUS...that I forgot Daschle.

Remember that rant of his?


13 posted on 08/20/2011 9:02:50 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: LostInBayport

Little Tommy is feeling slighted......


14 posted on 08/20/2011 9:27:01 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I have always thought that purchases made out of state were not subject to state sales taxes. When did that change?

It’s absurd to think that I would keep records of everything I buy out of state so that I could then pay state sales tax on it... even if I wanted to pay that extra tax, which I don’t.

I’m glad I don’t live in CA any more.


15 posted on 08/20/2011 9:39:30 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: apillar

I’m an SEO and PPC guy, and I’m on the work at home forums and I have read most times that Paypal rats you out eventually as the “law” states that 200 transactions must be reported for.

Then a close friend of mine just took out Paypal. Eventually made Alertpay and his own CC, be the de-facto transaction source and he has been doing it for 2 years. Z Money is also on the IRS guidelines so people tend to avoid it.


16 posted on 08/20/2011 9:39:39 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

simple solution .. buy nothing unless you absolutely must. even then, only in cash

shut it all down. screw them.

stop helping them redistribute your wealth to their politically favored base

save every penny... turn it into assets (gold, silver, guns, ammo, long term food stores). items they can’t readily confiscate


17 posted on 08/20/2011 10:18:12 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
How hard would it be for the State to contract for writing an application program that people could install from the State website by which to calculate the tax for those who would pay it?
18 posted on 08/20/2011 10:22:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: LostInBayport
Don't forget this gentleman:
19 posted on 08/20/2011 10:09:31 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: ErnBatavia

You beat me. :( My picture is better though.


20 posted on 08/20/2011 10:09:34 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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