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New EPA rule could lead to rolling blackouts in Texas, PUC chairwoman says
star telegram ^ | Aug. 19, 2011 | Jack Z. Smith

Posted on 08/20/2011 4:12:50 PM PDT by george76

The head of the Texas Public Utility Commission expressed concern Friday that a new federal air quality rule, set to take effect Jan. 1, will cause disruptions in electric service.

If implementation of the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule is not delayed, "I have no doubt in my mind that this rule will result in reliability issues and rolling outages in Texas," Donna Nelson said at the start of the commission's meeting.

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The company says the industry's standard time frame for installing emission controls is several years, but the rule requires compliance in six months. So Luminant, a subsidiary of Energy Future Holdings, has said it may have to shut down some coal-fired power plants in East Texas.

"Curtailing plant and/or mine operations will be the only option" if the 1,323-page rule goes into effect as planned, Luminant said.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: electricity; emissions; energy; epa; laraza; maldef; perrytards; rollingblackouts; shootingfromthelip; texaspuc; texican
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 4:12:51 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

So Mr Present-ident, Want to try and explain to the American people this action by YOUR EPA?


2 posted on 08/20/2011 4:16:18 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: george76
the 1,323-page rule

...that's no rule. That's a classic Soviet-style central plan.

3 posted on 08/20/2011 4:16:31 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: george76

If Perry wins the nomination Obama will have NATO forces dropping nukes on Texas before the election.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 4:17:05 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: george76

Texas is already on the case.

We are bringing old nat gas plants back online.

FUBO!


5 posted on 08/20/2011 4:21:45 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
mylife wrote:
Texas is already on the case.

We are bringing old nat gas plants back online.
That just acknowledges King Obama's EPA and their rule.

You folks in Texas need to just keep your lights on by running the coal plants. This rule is aimed squarely at Texas. It's the EPA declaring war on one of our own states.

6 posted on 08/20/2011 4:26:12 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: MNJohnnie
So Mr Present-ident, Want to try and explain to the American people this action by YOUR EPA?

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Already did. Remember? "Under my plan... electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket." Can't say I didn't warn you, America.

7 posted on 08/20/2011 4:28:13 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: george76

ERCOT is doing a good job dealing with the crisis.

I just open my bill an it’s $149
Not bad considering the AC has been running full bore with 103 to 112 deg temps all month

FUBO!


8 posted on 08/20/2011 4:29:22 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: george76
We need to face that Obama is an enemy in occupation of the White House. Texas needs to not comply and to start taking action against EPA and other Federal officials imposing targeted assaults on Texas by Obama. It is time for state nullification, to be charitable. Other states need to be thinking about similar actions.
9 posted on 08/20/2011 4:31:25 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: george76

Well, thats one way to stop the runaway job growth in Texas thats such an embarrassment to Obama and his administration.


10 posted on 08/20/2011 4:33:14 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: cc2k
This rule is aimed squarely at Texas. It's the EPA declaring war on one of our own states.

That is true, but Perry has been in Obamas face from day one fighting this BS. It's tied up in the courts now, but we cant tie it up forever. Obama has a hardon for texas. It's time to bust it off and stickit in his keister

11 posted on 08/20/2011 4:33:35 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: george76

Wassamatter? Those windmills not milling?


12 posted on 08/20/2011 4:33:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek

Wind and solar are a farce.
They are fine for auxiliary power but not as steady go to power.
They also take huge amounts of land.
It’s a joke.


13 posted on 08/20/2011 4:36:38 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: george76

Bump.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 4:39:07 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: george76
the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule

The wind could blow for two weeks and a fart wouldn't make it across the Texas border.

This stuff is a bad joke. Seriously I could burn a stack of tires and no one in Arkansas is ever going to detect it.

15 posted on 08/20/2011 4:40:45 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: george76

I think companies should just ignore the f’n EPA? What could they do? Turn ‘em over to Holder??? HAHAHA


16 posted on 08/20/2011 4:41:08 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Truth29

We already are.

I have been trying to tell people. Rick Perry has defied this BS from day one.

And you are very correct, we are being targeted.

FUBO!


17 posted on 08/20/2011 4:43:46 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

My electric company just announced that they were skipping the new coal fired plant and putting up a wind farm. They also announced they were raising my rates by another 6%.

Rolling blackouts should be a real treat in a Michigan January.


18 posted on 08/20/2011 4:47:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: beethovenfan

That’s what I was about to ask: What would happen if Texas told the EPA to shove their regulation up their arse.

Ater that Texas Rangers arrest anyone who comes to Texas to enforce it.

The they could take this through all the trials and to the Sup[reme Court ,since there is nothing in the Constitution to allow the Federal Government to enforce regulations in sovereign states.

I am sure the Feds first move would be to cut all Federal funds, but that should happen anyway. feds have no business controlling states by controlling their own money they give back to them.


19 posted on 08/20/2011 4:48:29 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: cripplecreek

All I can say is get a pellet stove and vote the idiots out!


20 posted on 08/20/2011 4:49:35 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Venturer
Please let me have rolling blackouts and higher power prices before the election.

I will put up with the inconvenience for a you not serving four more years.

21 posted on 08/20/2011 4:50:20 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Venturer

They already have cut off federal funds.

No money for roads, No money for the wildfires, no money for the drought, no money for NASA.

FUBO!

We’ll fight your sorry ass till the end!

We have our own electrical grid and we have roads, we have seaports.

FUBO!


22 posted on 08/20/2011 4:54:22 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Iron Munro

What do you think is happening in Texas now? The heat...isn’t normal...more to it than people realize. This high starts to move off west then suddenly it’s back over Texas stronger creating more heat.


23 posted on 08/20/2011 4:54:29 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: george76; Tempest

Just plug Rick Perry into the grid. Let him electrify the nation. /s


24 posted on 08/20/2011 4:57:40 PM PDT by bigheadfred (The world needs wannabees)
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To: bigheadfred

You’re a hilarious guy.

May be we could get you to run the wind farms.


25 posted on 08/20/2011 5:01:15 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

I think we can get Rick to cover that too. Not only does he suck, he blows.


26 posted on 08/20/2011 5:09:28 PM PDT by bigheadfred (The world needs wannabees)
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To: george76

On schedule to hand over USA to Saudi Arabia is on schedule.


27 posted on 08/20/2011 5:11:03 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: george76

FUEPA
Flush this Kenyan turd come November 2012. Can’t get rid of this America hater soon enough. Any eco-idiot who hates big energy, hates America. America was built on big energy. This is why we have a high standard of living.

No way can wind and solar compete against our inexpensive “fracked” natural gas plus we are the Saudi Arabia of coal.


28 posted on 08/20/2011 5:12:28 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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To: scooby321

You have a point.


29 posted on 08/20/2011 5:12:28 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: george76
The company says the industry's standard time frame for installing emission controls is several years, but the rule requires compliance in six months. So Luminant, a subsidiary of Energy Future Holdings, has said it may have to shut down some coal-fired power plants in East Texas.

Mothball them and maintain them. When Rick Perry gets in you fire them up again. Nuke the EPA! Fire every last parasite

30 posted on 08/20/2011 5:16:02 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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To: cc2k

What would happen if the power companies just developed a unified front and told the EPA to *%#@ off?

The EPA is no more than bureaucrats. Will they send armed goons to shut down the power plants?

I am really beginning to despise this situation......
sooner or later this oppressive nonsense has to cease.
Hopefully sooner.


31 posted on 08/20/2011 5:28:06 PM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afgahnistan - back home in Dixie.)
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To: MNJohnnie

EPA and 0bammie hate Texas.

Jobs would be abundant here if it were not for those two.


32 posted on 08/20/2011 5:29:13 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: george76

Obama’s promise to bankrupt the coal-powered electricity plants and cause electricity prices to skyrocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTIhyMa-Nw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wzNUZVv0A0

And don’t forget about rolling blackouts due to coal plants being shut down.


33 posted on 08/20/2011 5:31:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: cc2k

Just say no. What’s the EPA going to do? It is fitting that the revolution begin in Texas.


34 posted on 08/20/2011 5:45:26 PM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: mylife

Rolling blackouts. I live in the Houston area and my a/c is running almost all the time. We set the temp at 75 and the house temp is 77. If the night time temperatures don’t cool down even the attic vent fan doesn’t turn off. If we have rolling blackouts I will have to buy a bigger a/c just to cool down the house when electrical power is available. My bill for the past month was $266, the highest in 8 years. The month before was $229, the highest in 8 years. Our sidewalks and driveways are sinking and hazardous to walk on. I live in a new neighborhood and one sidewalk near my home has sunk 6 inches and the section next to it hasn’t moved at all! People have to walk in the street for safety.
(keep the dives and surfaces equal, shipmate.)


35 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:20 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: george76

O-hole said under his plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket. Great job at recking what is left of America. Right on schedule with the change part.


36 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:29 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: encm(ss)

The ground is shifting for sure. My AC is keeping up but I only have 1500 sq feet.
My foundation is floundering.

The soils pulled a good inch away from it


37 posted on 08/20/2011 6:48:16 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: encm(ss)

Good luck bubblehead


38 posted on 08/20/2011 6:50:43 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: encm(ss)

Where you the COB on your boat?
I had to look up ENCM LoL

Good for you.

My old master chief lives here. I think the SOB is still alive. I saw him about 5 months ago.

Best wishes.


39 posted on 08/20/2011 6:59:00 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: george76

GET RID OF THE EFFIN EPA.


40 posted on 08/20/2011 7:32:21 PM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: mylife

No I was not a chief of the boat. My last boat was Blueback in 69 and went to shore duty, recruiting, in San Antonio. When I was to go back to sea duty as E-8, there were no diesel boats (except the B girls) for me to go to as an Engineman. I rode a DLG for 2 years as the SCPOC and then went to Sardinia, then to SubRonOne Pearl Harbor. I was a certified diesel inspector for NAVSECPHILA until I retired in 80. I was the MCPOC of SubRon1 and the diesel inspector so I rode the boats for the inspections and I also rode the Blueback and stood watches on the Engine Console Operator when I would ride the B girl. Smooth sailing.


41 posted on 08/20/2011 7:51:48 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: mylife

No I was not a chief of the boat. My last boat was Blueback in 69 and went to shore duty, recruiting, in San Antonio. When I was to go back to sea duty as E-8, there were no diesel boats (except the B girls) for me to go to as an Engineman. I rode a DLG for 2 years as the SCPOC and then went to Sardinia, then to SubRonOne Pearl Harbor. I was a certified diesel inspector for NAVSECPHILA until I retired in 80. I was the MCPOC of SubRon1 and the diesel inspector so I rode the boats for the inspections and I also rode the Blueback and stood watches on the Engine Console Operator when I would ride the B girl. Smooth sailing.


42 posted on 08/20/2011 7:53:10 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: encm(ss)

Please excuse the extra post. Sorry.


43 posted on 08/20/2011 7:54:07 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: george76

Texas of all places should have the guts to tell the EPA where to go.


44 posted on 08/20/2011 7:55:53 PM PDT by Revel
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To: All

So, it’s so easy for us Freepers to gripe about things, but how do we get beyond the empty rhetoric and actually do something that would make realistic changes???? Is it going to be the Tea Party telling the GOP to kiss our rears????

Living here in Texas, I can tell you that our state is now full of plenty of voters who migrated here from the more liberal part of our country. I don’t trust them to vote correctly and stand by our traditional Texas independent values.

20 years ago, if you asked me if I thought there was a chance at secession, I would say heck yes. Now????


45 posted on 08/20/2011 7:58:26 PM PDT by I_Publius
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To: mylife
Texas is already on the case.

We are bringing old nat gas plants back online.

So Texas buckled under Obama's demands? That's a shame, I'd have thought Texas would have told Obama to F-off.

46 posted on 08/20/2011 9:11:58 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


47 posted on 08/20/2011 9:47:21 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Cobra64

We did, but we aint stupid we have plan b, c and d

Plus the failsafe plan


48 posted on 08/20/2011 10:06:13 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: george76
Political retribution.

If this happens Obama will not take responsibility for it and will use it against Perry should he be the nominee.

49 posted on 08/21/2011 2:14:32 AM PDT by newzjunkey (tattletale intimidation is tiresome. grow up.)
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To: george76
Zer0 HATES Texas. He is trying everything in the book to kill our economy.

Everything from banning oil drilling and ranching because of a friggin lizard to denying federal disaster funds to put out wildfires.

I'd rather we just secede. They can buy their oil from the Saudis or freeze in the dark for all I care.

50 posted on 08/21/2011 7:50:05 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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