Perry defends stance on Fed, immigration

Political Ticker - CNN ^ | 082011 | Shawna Shepherd

[Fred]

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As governor of the state that shares the largest border with Mexico, Perry defended his record on immigration, including his support for allowing illegal immigrants to get in-state tuition rates at Texas universities but opposing such a law on a national level.

"I'm a big believer in the 10th amendment," Perry said. "Whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be in that state, it needs to be the states making that decisions."

Perry wouldn't wade into a national immigration reform debate, deferring to his position that those decisions should be made on the state level, "not by the federal government making one size-fits-all."

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[SoConPubbie]

E-Verify is a joke.

Another nonsensicle illogical statement from a Perry Apologist.

So forcing employers to use E-Verify to validate someones citizenship and then BY LAW, forcing them not to hire someone who fails E-Verify under penalty of jail-time won't be effective?

What are you, brain-dead?

[caww]

Why else did Perry try repeatedly to meet with President Obama about border control only to be rebuffed each time?

Perry wanted national guard there....more people and equipment...and the federal government to assume a good deal of the expense to do that. Obama wasn’t interested in spending anymore money there.

But perry wasn’t interested either in closing the border.

[SoConPubbie]

He was NOT against AZ1070 at all. He just felt like parts of it were not right for Texas. He did not want Texas State Patrol Officers becoming Border Agents. He said it would take away from the job they had to do.

So tell me TexMom7, don't DPS and Texas Rangers take an oath to uphold the US Constitution, and the Laws of the United States, and the laws of Texas?

[SoConPubbie]

He was for the Sanctuary City Law this last legislative session but our law makers in Texas did not pass it. He put it back on the table for consideration when he called a special session and they again did not pass it. However, the photo id for driver license passed within the state budget but a Fed judge halted it. The one thing that did get through our legislature which he signed was a voter id - this eliminates illegals from voting in Texas.

Sorry, but like so much of the hypocritical nonsense that comes out of Perry's mouth concerning Illegal Immigration, this is so much nonsense.

It is so much nonsense because the policies already in place for the DPS for dealing with Illegal Aliens are almost exactly the same as those already in place for Houston, a city Perry and his staff has called a Sanctuary City.

Until Rick "Open-Borders" Perry changes those DPS policies, this is just campaing pandering on his part and the height of hypocracy.

[caww]

Then also there is the fraud Perry’s muslim ‘problem’ that none of his supporters wish to speak about, or want us to bring up..... How in God’s name can any true conservative politician support and pander openly to the people who follow the ‘Religion’ that attacked us on 9/11?

I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out why Perry's supporters here on FR are supressing and avoiding Perry's involvement and support with the Muslim/Islamic groups and leaders.

The only thing I have come up with is...if they agree it would be an unwelcomed problem then they would also have to question why they've supported his Governance for so long......without protesting Perry's involvement with Islamic Leaders etc.

But I have to say it does appear they've been well aware all along of the Muslim infilitration to their state, school system and governance, and Perry's involvement with....and are fine with this.

Having looked on line at some of their Mosques and Islamic Centers...it is obvious not only are they welcoming to Muslims...but some Texans are already changing their faith to Islam.

It's a very bad situation Texans have yet to see the extent of danger they have put their state in....and by doing so the rest of this nation.

[jospehm20]

I think a lot of your beef may be with the feds. Since Texas is not the only state with this problem, I am under the impression that the federal government encourages or requires states to make “assiatnce” (welfare) available to illegals. That being said, Perry is not as tough as I would like on illegals. No candidate that is likely to win the nomination is very good on it in my view. Perry has the longest record with it because he has been governor of Texas, a border state, for over a decade so he will catch the most flak for it. Can you name another Republican Presidential candidate who has taken more concrete steps than Perry to curb illegal immigration?

[caww]

Bush isn't President or running for. Need to compare with current candidates.

The facts are clear that Perry will indeed use Government funds to secure his states border at our expense.

But he has a worse problem of the Muslim population in his state which he is supporting.....and allowing financing of their Mosques and Islamic centers from ME funds.

He likes the 'outside' revenues for his state which make it appear as if his state is able to handle their own debts etc and the numbers look good at a glance...but when you look further you see those revenues coming from outside the state...and the jobs claimed created are mostly minimum wage. I have great concerns that same mindset will allow further foreigners to open business and industry into all our country at a rapid pace...and this, as with his state, will generate revenues to revive our nation and make it appear, as it does in his state, that he has created jobs and saved the nation. When in fact it will be from foreign involvements, not from those of our own.

So will he sell us out to foreign investors and the ME oil giants who love Texas for their business ventures....I just see this as... having Perry for Pres. will open the way for more and more foreigners to come here...and that with His seal of approval.

[hosepipe]

[ Any Republican that gets elected President will be better than Obama or any other ‘rat on every single issue and also much more responsive to the citizen’s wishes. I really believe that to be true. ]

True.... but if you have an actual choice why not pick the best.. I’m going with Backmann BECAUSE shes not a good politician.. Romney and Perry(Bush) are “pros” at it.. Too machine-like..

[jospehm20]

I did not say that Bush was, somebody else wrote that Perry was just like Bush and I disagreed. “His State’s” border is the inetrnational border and is the responsibility of the federal government to secure, he should use federal government funds to do so. Texas contributes more to the federal government than it gets back every year, if it were not so we could probably handle the debts a bit better. As it is, those “outside funds” you wrote about are Texas tax dollars coming back to the state. As for all the foreigners and their investments, what exactly do you think they will do with plants, buildings, etc, that they build here? Roll them up and take them home? Whatever.

[jospehm20]

I do not believe she will make it to the Texas primary next year before she drops out.

[fabian]

Yeah, it is a deal breaker when illegals are taking tax payer funded services and jobs! By the millions! Good lord man! Sarah, or Trump ...get in there!

[Fred]

PerryForPOTUS Herman P. Vasquez
Rick Perry is not really for drones on the border. Big media hype, brothers. Our families back home have nothing to be concerned over.
16 Aug

https://twitter.com/#!/PerryForPOTUS

[Fred]

PerryForPOTUS Herman P. Vasquez
I prayed that my people would be saved, and Rick Perry answered.
20 Aug

https://twitter.com/#!/PerryForPOTUS

[jospehm20]

I guess we may see or not, depending on who gets elected. I personally like the idea but this is about what I would expect a “Latino Outreach” coordinator to say.

[newzjunkey]

If you bothered to read the thread you'd see contemporaneous with the border governors' letter Perry wrote an op-ed calling for a worker program without citizenship as "comprehensive immigration reform." As it happens, that's Palin's solution as well. She said so on O'Reilly in 2010.

In a December 2006 editorial, Gov. Perry wrote (emphasis mine):

"I would rather know who is crossing our border legally to work instead of not knowing who is crossing our border illegally to work. A guest worker program that provides foreign workers with an ID removes the incentive for millions of people to illegally enter our country. It also adds those workers to our tax base, generates revenue for needed social services and it can be done without providing citizenship."

and

"Along with millions of Americans, I think it is wrong to reward those who broke our laws with citizenship ahead of those who have followed the law and are waiting to enter this country legally. And like millions of Americans I do not support amnesty."

Source: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/editorial/10326/

[sickoflibs]

RE :”As governor of the state that shares the largest border with Mexico, Perry defended his record on immigration, including his support for allowing illegal immigrants to get in-state tuition rates at Texas universities but opposing such a law on a national level. “I'm a big believer in the 10th amendment,” Perry said. “Whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be in that state, it needs to be the states making that decisions.” Perry wouldn't wade into a national immigration reform debate, deferring to his position that those decisions should be made on the state level, “not by the federal government making one size-fits-all.” But he added, “Once we secure the border we can have a conversation about immigration reform.” Perry also believes in a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants serving in the military.”

What Perry is really saying here is that he needed to take those positions to get the support of Hispanic voters. And bringing up the military is a way of putting illegals is a good light, just patriotic Americans without those papers. A sad day when the government felt it needed to recruit illegals for the military. Not a big surprise that those that promote endless new wars $$$$$ also tend to be for Amnesty: McCain, Graham, Kristal.

Perry's stance on illegal immigration Texas Dream Act sounds much like Romney's stance on Obama/Romney-care. They both are saying that they believe in the 10th amendment so don't judge them him negatively by anything they did as governor relating to a presidential run. Good try!

[Liz]

Does this mean he's gonna give the blanket back? (/snix)

Perry is thanked by Mexicans for giving illegals in-state tuition.

Senor Ricardo Perrista receives a blanket from Mexican Gov Enrique Martinez
of Coahuila, as a token of appreciation for enacting the Texican Dream Act.

[sickoflibs]

RE :"Does this mean he's gonna give the blanket back? (/snix) Perry is thanked by Mexicans for giving illegals in-state tuition."

It means he doesnt want us to think he is for amnesty as POTUS just because he was for it as governor of Texas. He says we have to elect him to see what he will do, much like Obama-care. Actually that was a lie too, we still dont know what Obama care will do because the WH gets to make up the rules on the spot after passage without another vote.

My trust level for someone running for POTUS is about zero.

[Liz]

....this consummate liar doesn't want us to think he'll be "against" amnesty as POTUS b/c he was "for" amnesty as governor of Texas ......

Just like Obama, Perry will make up the rules as he goes along.

WRT "for and against," Perry will be Kerry on steroids.

[TexMom7]

Here is one example - I could give you many many more if you like.

The costs were estimated around 50 Billion in 2007.
Construction materials, especially metals, have doubled since 2007.

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/432/video-webex.html