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Social Security disability on verge of insolvency
yahoo news ^ | 5 hrs ago | By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

Posted on 08/21/2011 5:01:13 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Laid-off workers and aging baby boomers are flooding Social Security's disability program, pushing the financially strapped system toward the brink of insolvency.

Applications are up nearly 50 percent over a decade ago as people lose their jobs and can't find new ones in an economy that has shed nearly 7 million jobs.

Much of the focus in Washington has been on fixing Social Security's retirement system. The trustees who oversee Social Security urge Congress to shore up the disability system by reallocating money from the retirement program, just as lawmakers did in 1994.

This year, about 3.3 million people are expected to apply for federal disability benefits. That's 700,000 more than in 2008 and 1 million more than a decade ago.

The disability program is also being hit by an aging population — disability rates rise as people get older — as well as a system that encourages people to apply for more generous disability benefits rather than waiting until they qualify for retirement.

Retirees can get full Social Security benefits at age 66, a threshold gradually rising to 67. Early retirees can get reduced benefits at 62. However, if you qualify for disability, you can get full benefits, based on your work history, even before 62.

Today, about 13.6 million people receive disability benefits through Social Security or Supplemental Security Income. Social Security is for people with substantial work histories, and monthly disability payments average $927. Supplemental Security Income does not require a work history but it has strict limits on income and assets. Monthly SSI payments average $500.

Last year, Social Security detected $1.4 billion in overpayments to disability beneficiaries, mostly to people who got jobs and no longer qualified, according to a recent report by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.

www.ssa.gov/disability/

www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12375

www.gao.gov/products/GAO-11-724

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Monthly SSI payments average $500.

These payments are almost always over $650/mo in rural Arkansas.

1 posted on 08/21/2011 5:01:18 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: muawiyah
The trustees who oversee Social Security urge Congress to shore up the disability system by reallocating money from the retirement program, just as lawmakers did in 1994.
2 posted on 08/21/2011 5:02:27 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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“These payments are almost always over $650/mo in rural Arkansas.”

I have been told I will receive over $1100.00 per month to go along with my TDUI for the VA at nearly $3000.00 per month. Yes, double dipping is allowed. Not sure I need it financially but it’s either me or some illegal alien, right?

I dunno, it just feels like this nation is on a one way trip to hell with no sign of help in the offing.


3 posted on 08/21/2011 5:05:42 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Cain, Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I can see how social seurity will be tapped even more because more baby boomers will lose their jobs, and collect early.


4 posted on 08/21/2011 5:06:58 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“”are flooding Social Security’s disability program, pushing the financially strapped system toward the brink of insolvency. Applications are up nearly 50 percent over a decade ago as people lose their jobs and can’t find new ones in an economy that has shed nearly 7 million jobs.””

What on earth does being unemployed have to do with being able to draw disability from Social Security? I realize the entire government is run by the “disabled” but this does not make any sense at all.


5 posted on 08/21/2011 5:08:02 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

It doesn’t make sense to give SS to illegals either.....but they do.


6 posted on 08/21/2011 5:10:13 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Grunthor

yeah, a bunch of spoiled people who are NOT disabled from doing some sort of job taking a freeloader way out! Tired of being ripped off through the income tax.


7 posted on 08/21/2011 5:10:25 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Grunthor

If I had an extra $1100.00 per month, I would donate it to my favorite charities, rather than have the govt. waste it.


8 posted on 08/21/2011 5:11:14 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun
more baby boomers will lose their jobs, and collect early

They might not necessarily lose their jobs; they might just be opting for early retirement out of fear that SSI won't be there should they retire later in life. Either way, it will crash the system.

9 posted on 08/21/2011 5:11:28 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: Sun

“If I had an extra $1100.00 per month, I would donate it to my favorite charities, rather than have the govt. waste it.”

Yeah, I’m thinking of doing just that.


10 posted on 08/21/2011 5:12:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Cain, Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: RC2

they give ssi to all residents, legal or not. medical issues put you on it. my husbands psychiatrist wanted to put me on it after I broke my spine and had surgery. my surgeon said I could return to work, lol try to find a job? people are giving up and going on it if they have anything wrong with themselves.


11 posted on 08/21/2011 5:16:29 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Grunthor
A person I know here in San Diego, on SSI gets over $800.00 a month, plus free medical,prescriptions,some dental , eye care, under medical.. she is better off than a person who paid into the system and retired under SS, she got SSI because she was mentally stressed...
12 posted on 08/21/2011 5:18:26 PM PDT by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: GoodDay

“Either way, it will crash the system.”

For sure, unless we get some better and tougher leaders.

I know a man, who received a buy out from his workplace, plus a pension, and was living comfortably. When he became 62, he decided to collect his S.S. right away, rather than wait for full retirement, because he thought S.S. might not be there for long.

Another man, I know, planned to work until his full S.S. kicked in, but was afraid he would lose his 401K in the stock market, so retired a year early.

We are living in an uncertain and scarry time.


13 posted on 08/21/2011 5:20:45 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I worked for nearly 2 years as a Social Security Claims Rep before transferring to another agency. This was way back in the early 70’s but I doubt the system has changed.

Very few people are approved when they first apply. Next you have to file for a reconsideration. Practically no one was approved on reconsideration. The next step was to ask for a hearing by an administrative law judge. That is where most people got approved. I guess they wanted to discourage people by making the first two extremely difficult.

Social Security Disability is one of the most difficult disability claims there is. SSI is basically the same system.

Civil Service disability is by contrast very easy to have approved. Basically all you have to do is have your Dr. say you are disabled.


14 posted on 08/21/2011 5:21:01 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Social security is also running a deficit, so I don’t know how you can reallocate from social security.

And of course, Obama wants to reduce the payroll tax.


15 posted on 08/21/2011 5:21:22 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: DeaconBenjamin

..GET THE ILLEGALS OUT..period!
For all those arguments you hear about illegals not getting SSI AND MEDICARE..........

READ THIS: http://www.usborderpatrol.com/Border_Patrol100_4.htm


16 posted on 08/21/2011 5:23:55 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Grunthor

Smart move, rather than have the current govt., we’re now stuck with, use it for some left-wing agenda.


17 posted on 08/21/2011 5:24:38 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: JoanneSD

Mentally stressed. Damn. I just have a spinal cord injury....I don’t stand a chance of getting it, lol.


18 posted on 08/21/2011 5:24:48 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Cain, Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: DeaconBenjamin; P-Marlowe; wmfights; Buggman
SSI is a mystery to me. I was always taught that it meant: "supplemental security income" and that it was NOT from the Social Security fund but from the welfare budget.

Therefore, I looked it up again.

http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/

Sure enough, here's what the government itself writes:

Basically, the classes I took said that SSI was named SSI so it could be called "social security" (although wrongly) and take away the stigma of Welfare.

19 posted on 08/21/2011 5:27:50 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

20 posted on 08/21/2011 5:28:23 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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