Posted on 08/22/2011 4:53:03 PM PDT by Kaslin
Energy: It won't matter which light bulbs we use as the administration's implementation of cross-state pollution rules shuts down coal plants across the country. Where will the jobs be when the lights go out?
It's called the Cross-State Pollution Rule, announced last month, and its implementation over the next 18 months will likely result in the loss of a fifth of the nation's electricity-generating capacity.
The result will be likely power shortages, skyrocketing rates and inevitable brownouts and rolling blackouts.
Based on Bush-era EPA proposals that the federal courts threw out in 2008, this latest example of legislation is designed to usurp state powers to regulate their in-state emissions by making it a federal issue on the grounds pollution crosses state lines.
The rule requires coal companies in 27 states to slash emissions of sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide by 73% and 54%, respectively, from 2005 levels by 2014. "Just because wind and weather will carry air pollution away from its source at a local power plant doesn't mean that pollution is no longer that plant's responsibility," says Environmental Protection Agency Chief Lisa Jackson.
The targets are states such as Texas that not only resist federal encroachment on their powers but dare to try to balance environmental quality. The EPA claims huge health gains as its justification, but those claims are in doubt. Poverty and joblessness, which this and other EPA rules will create, carry their own health risks.
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Sounds good to me.
Fascism ping.
Can you find coal period?
The problem is that coal plant are base load plants and using gas for base load is crazy expensive and putting any kind of generation unit on-line takes years and years. Just the permit process (through the EPA BTW) takes years before you can even break ground and the line to purchase the generator and structural steel is very long since we do not produce any steel anymore. These people are ruining the country.
I would not be adverse to throwing Obama in jail along with the people behind him.
Hence the crappy capacity factor.
Remember when Dear Leader told us that electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket? Or when he said that if a utility were to open a new coal fired plant, "we'll bankrupt them!" But then with "global warming, maybe nobody will notice the higher electricity rates since it will be so warm. Of course, remember what happened in France due to the excessive heat last year... How many thousand of elderly died because of a lack of energy and air conditioning? Of course, maybe that's the idea to save social security and medicare... Kill the elderly? Or is that only the republican answer to health care, as so aptly stated by the leftist loon from FL?
Mark
As of 2008 the retail price was $5.75 per ton. I looks like you actually can buy coal for home use in a few places.
http://www.shtfblog.com/coal-for-home-heating-made-in-the-usa/
DING DING DING DING!! No more calls, please, we have a winner!
Artificial scarcity, with which to play "devotion games" with the public. "You really believe in us, right? You bellyfeel Ingsoc, right? You bellyfeel Big Brother, right?"
That wind power will work great on days like today where the temps were in the upper 90’s and there wasn’t enough wind to rustle a leaf.
Blackouts can be a double edged sword - how can the State control the peasants if it also loses power, communications, and everything else power-dependent?
the loss of a fifth of the nation’s electricity-generating capacity.
— why does our gubamint hate US?
And, as we learned last winter in Scotland and Minnesota, windmills freeze up during really cold weather.
“That’s what you get when you put up windmills instead of reliable coal, gas, hydro, or nuclear generation plants.”
It never ceases to amaze me that people fall for that wind/solar scam.
This is why I have mixed feelings about the Murrah bombing.
It isn’t much of a stretch to believe there isn’t an intentional attempt to get rid of a whole bunch of us. Its a long time dream of the Fabian socialists like Soros and Strong.
Here in Michigan we’re closing coal fired plants and tearing out dams.
I think you’re on to something.
how can the State control the peasants if it also loses power, communications, and everything else power-dependent?C'mon, really? Do you really think the jet setting government/ruling class elites are going to be without power and communications with each other? Really?
There is a worse problem, and that is the people they've attracted to their faction.
Remember, the Roman Revolution didn't end until Caesar's faction was everywhere triumphant and the old Republic totally destroyed -- as in, murdered. Marc Antony and Octavian murdered most of the Roman nobility who had not been killed during Caesar's war, and those Romans who'd died fighting Caesar had been the survivors of the widespread proscriptions (outlawing and executions) of great numbers of better-off citizens under Marius and Sulla in the generations immediately antecedent to Cicero's and Caesar's. (Antony and Octavian belonged to the generation just junior to Caesar's, and Brutus was their contemporary; Cassius was older and belonged to Caesar's generation, as did Pompey and Cato the Younger.)
The Roman Revolution was accomplished by mesoscale murder among the nobility and very high casualties among Roman and Italian citizens of military age, who were among the 1,000,000 or so Romans who went into the army in Caesar's and Octavian's generations. (They included the poet Horace, btw, who was a military officer -- a tribune -- of a cohort serving in Brutus's army; he fought at Philippi.)
The lesson for us is that we now have a fully-fledged Communist revolutionary faction at our throats, expert in lying to people to get their cooperation, expert at stirring them to criminal violence, adept at civil war, led by a politburo hiding in the shadows behind Obama somewhere; and they will not go away unless we "do what it takes" to make them go away. As did, for example, the Indonesian colonels in the 60's.
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