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Victor Davis Hanson: The False WWII Analogy - Obama’s America is more like Attlee’s Britain...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | August 24, 2011 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/24/2011 8:35:20 AM PDT by neverdem

The False WWII Analogy
Obama's America is more like Attlee's Britain than Truman's America.

Since 2009, the example of the economic boom following World War II has been used by Keynesians to justify their record “peacetime” levels of borrowing intended to lift the U.S. out of the doldrums. Indeed, the more the contemporary borrowing fails, the more the vast indebtedness of the war years is invoked to reassure us. On occasion a wry lament follows that if only a spaceship full of dangerous aliens were to appear, we might have the requisite excuse to follow our grandfathers into a new collective frenzy of economic stimulus and public debt.

Citing the benefits that accrued from World War II, of course, is ironic for lots of reasons — aside from the horror of 50 million dead. Modern liberalism has argued that defense spending, in all its manifestations, is ipso facto an uneconomical use of national resources. Money spent building an artillery gun and training a youth to fire it supposedly could be better spent subsidizing higher education or producing a hybrid car — as if the modern college turns out better disciplined, more motivated, and better educated young people than does the Marine Corps or Air Force; as if deterring aggression is more costly than meeting it on the battlefield at a disadvantage; as if the habitual exactness and lasting skills acquired in building a huge fleet carrier are comparable to those required for building a Chevy Volt.

For decades the liberal argument was that the New Deal cured the Depression. But in a new twist, the war has suddenly been reinvented to support the current arguments of the new Keynesians — despite the irony in the embrace of the old right-wing argument that it was the World War II defense spending, not FDR’s New Deal, that finally got America out of a near-decade-long depression.

In ingenious fashion, the new argument insists that the second downward spiral of 1937–38 — formerly ostensible proof that five years of the New Deal and of anti-business rhetoric had not worked — should be attributed only to FDR’s lacking the will or political muscle to stay the course and accelerate deficit spending, redistribute more income, and grow far bigger government. Then luckily the war came along. That crisis provided the necessary political landscape, which had been lacking during the supposed Keynesian backsliding of Roosevelt’s second term, to force through the long-awaited New New Deal. At last, the really big scare allowed the really big borrowing, and the result was the really big prosperity for the next half-century.

But as many have pointed out, there are all sorts of problems with this account. During World War II, the American public scrimped and saved. If household income increased, so did household savings — not surprisingly, given the rationing of many consumer goods and total unavailability of others. Washers, dryers, hot-water heaters, vacuum cleaners — all those and more were bought for the first time after the war, and often without borrowing.

In other words, there was plenty of private postwar investment capital and household money waiting to be tapped when the shooting stopped and millions came home — especially for basics such as new cars, trucks, tractors, and appliances.

But now? Household credit-card and mortgage debt, for all the new frugality, remain high. Consumers are strapped, even those who have jobs and have not lost thousands in collapsed home equity and depleted 401(k) retirement plans, or made nothing in years from near-zero-interest savings accounts. In other words, we do not have a long-deprived public, flush with years of hoarded cash, just waiting with pent-up demand to buy brand new labor-saving devices and shiny new vehicles produced in converted tank and bomber factories. There is no need to add that in a pre–Great Society America, without food stamps, two to three years of unemployment insurance, and housing subsidies, there might have been more incentive to hustle for jobs.

Moreover, the world abroad in 1946 was hardly similar to the world in 2011. Review the prior status of our present global competitors: India was a backward colony and in civil turmoil. War-torn China was about to embark on the most self-destructive social experiment in human history. Two-thirds of a centrally planned Soviet Union was in shambles. Western Europe was near starving after years of bombing and Nazi strangulation. The future export powerhouses of Japan and Germany were in ruins. Brazil was pre-modern. The miracles of Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea were still imaginary. A victorious Britain was full of self-doubt and exhausted, busy dismantling its colonial empire and nationalizing its steel, transportation, health, and energy industries.

In the immediate postwar years, only a capitalist, self-confident America was poised to supply foreigners with much-needed manufactured goods, expertise, and capital to raise the world from ruin. And from the profits, we were able to pay down our own staggering and unsupportable wartime-incurred debt. Note as well that in 1946 a self-sufficient oil-producing America was not guzzling down a half-trillion dollars’ worth of imported oil each year.

In short, in 2011 there is nothing that suggests the present massive borrowing will lead us to anything like the prosperity of the postwar years — a time when social spending and entitlements accounted for 30 percent, not 70 percent of the annual federal budget; when households both had cash and were eager to buy long-denied items; when America did not import high-cost oil (having recently supplied 80 percent of its wartime allies’ oil needs from domestic production); and when an unscathed industrial-powerhouse United States was alone on top of the world.

But if we must go back to the post–World War II era for an example to enlighten us about what the current Obama policies presage, then the similarities to the present are not to be found in 1940s America. A better guide is Clement Attlee’s 1946 United Kingdom, which, like Obama’s 2011 America, sought to retrench from the world scene, lead from behind, and establish a much-vaunted high-tax, big-government, cradle-to-grave redistributive welfare state — one whose legacy we have just witnessed in London’s streets.

NRO contributor Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, the editor of Makers of Ancient Strategy: From the Persian Wars to the Fall of Rome, and the author of The Father of Us All: War and History, Ancient and Modern.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: america; attlee; obama; truman

1 posted on 08/24/2011 8:35:28 AM PDT by neverdem
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After World War II, the USA was the sole surviving, capitalist manufacturer. The rest were left in smithereens for a generation because of World War II’s extensive destruction.


2 posted on 08/24/2011 8:43:49 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
The miracles of Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea were still imaginary. Japan didn't do so bad either.

Back in the USA miracle's are rare because of the limits that have been placed on our imagination. Want energy Independence? It can't be done under the present system.

3 posted on 08/24/2011 8:52:03 AM PDT by oyez ( America is being pimped.)
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To: neverdem

...Powerful...


4 posted on 08/24/2011 8:56:20 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: neverdem
'Since 2009, the example of the economic boom following World War II has been used by Keynesians to justify their record “peacetime” levels of borrowing intended to lift the U.S.'

Well, VDH, we have been living like Keynesians for at least 30 yeatrs, it didn't start with Obama, and it won't end with him. Thanks to zero interest from the Fed, we have destroyed savers. Keynes would have loved that; he hated savers.

5 posted on 08/24/2011 8:56:20 AM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: neverdem

ww2 saved fdr’s reputation.


6 posted on 08/24/2011 9:05:37 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Palter
Well, VDH, we have been living like Keynesians for at least 30 yeatrs, it didn't start with Obama, and it won't end with him.

IMHO, it's closer to five decades, when we started including FICA deductions for Social Security to the general federal tax receipts under LBJ.

7 posted on 08/24/2011 9:08:56 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Who am I to argue? A nobody. But I do wonder about this statement A better guide [to U.S.A. today] is Clement Attlee’s 1946 United Kingdom, which, like Obama’s 2011 America, sought to retrench from the world scene, lead from behind, and establish a much-vaunted high-tax, big-government, cradle-to-grave redistributive welfare state — one whose legacy we have just witnessed in London’s streets.

Unlike the prewar "America First" opposition I recall that the postwar conservative Republicans did not want to retrench now that communism was on the move. Did I misunderstand Mr. Hanson?

And the Democrats continued efforts to establish a "cradle-to-grave redistributive welfare state."

True the efforts were more intense in England and there was no expunction of our W.W.II heroes -- if I may use expunction to describe what happened to Churchill.

IMO there's the similarity that Obama is also in a world war. Only his war is against America as we know Her. Obama is helping the "Nazi army" take North Africa.

The most frightening similarity is that it appears that Obama intends to vanquish his political opponents just as FDR tried. Tea anyone?

I know that it is pretty much accepted that the America First movement and opponents of FDR were all pro-Nazis. They were not pro-Nazi. Bundists were often condemned and accused in the same breath with FDR's -- and Stalin's -- opponents.

Will future generations accept that "tea baggers" were all violent racists?

I do indeed expect to see a kind of the Great Sedition Trial of 1944 were the "little people" were put on trial first before FDR was ready to destroy the real targets, the conservative leaders.

Such an effort is even less likely to be successful than it was back then. The effort to convict failed. But the effort did do great damage to the lives of the several who were put on trial.

8 posted on 08/24/2011 10:21:20 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: neverdem
... " There is no need to add that in a pre–Great Society America, without food stamps, two to three years of unemployment insurance, and housing subsidies, there might have been more incentive to hustle for jobs." ...

In a pre-Great Society American the country was not yet infested with anchor babies, illegal aliens, new immigrants, and their extended families costing the US taxpayer hundreds of billion of dollars.

125,000 new legal workers (guest workers and green cards)were not brought into the US each month.

Guest workers (who often pay not or partial taxes) were not brought into the US to replace American with cheap labor.

Factory work had not yet been off-shored to third world countries with neo-slave labor and not even minimal environmental restrictions.
9 posted on 08/24/2011 10:59:00 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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