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Survey: Employers consider ending health coverage
AP via WCPO ^ | 8/24/2011 | TOM MURPHY

Posted on 08/24/2011 10:39:41 AM PDT by TSgt

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Nearly one of every 10 midsized or big employers expects to stop offering health coverage to workers once federal insurance exchanges start in 2014, according to a new survey from a large benefits consultant.

Towers Watson also found in a survey completed last month that an additional 20 percent of the companies are unsure about what they will do.

Another big benefits consultant, Mercer, found in a June survey of large and smaller employers that 8 percent are either "likely" or "very likely" to end health benefits once the exchanges start.

Employer-sponsored health insurance has long been the backbone of the nation's health insurance system. But the studies suggest that some employers, especially retailers or those offering low wages, feel they will be better off paying fines and taxes than continuing to provide benefits that eat up a growing portion of their budget every year.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcpo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: barackalypsenow; bhoeconomy; bhohealthcare; corporations; economy; healthinsurance; nobama2012; obama; obamacare; obamageddon; singlepayer; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine
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Didn't see this coming... /SAR
1 posted on 08/24/2011 10:39:45 AM PDT by TSgt
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To: TSgt

if anywhere these numbers take this path, the rest will follow suit, they will in order to compete.


2 posted on 08/24/2011 10:42:43 AM PDT by dila813
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To: TSgt
There's a third option that the MSM never mentions, they just won't hire and then they don't owe healthcare or a fine.
3 posted on 08/24/2011 10:43:34 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: TSgt

This was Barry’s plan from the beginning. We’ll get single payer, government health care by default.


4 posted on 08/24/2011 10:43:47 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: TSgt

It was the plan all along.

Many companies wanted Obamacare. Many want socialized medicine. Why? The cost for the company will be cheaper than having employer funded health care.


5 posted on 08/24/2011 10:44:54 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: TSgt

1. the bill as it is will be amended a great deal with regards to the exchanges.
2. 2014 is a ridiculous implementation date, and everyone knows it. It won’t happen.
3. If/when it does happen to whatever degree, yes, many small employers will stop offering health bens and send their EE’s to exchanges.
4. The exchanges will suck balls, there will be awful servicing of their claims and administration and EE’s will revolt.
5. companies will out-compete their exchange-only competitors by offering medical insurance and it will swing back.

The silver lining in all this is that over the next year or so, the average Joe’s will come to realize that the private insurers aren’t this issue at all (nor brokers, nor lawyers) but the pure and simple cost of healthcare. This bill does not address that at all. All hell will break loose and at some point, the true cost of healthCARE will be addressed and then - only then - will we get a break.


6 posted on 08/24/2011 10:49:13 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: TSgt

The cost TODAY will be less than buying insurance. The cost TOMORROW will likely eat up any savings.

Employers will see a dramatic increase in the “fines” and penalties imposed. Somebody has to pay for Obamacare - it isn’t going to be those who are forced to buy insurance with it’s 2000 to 4000 deductible. Who can afford that? On top of the 400 per month deductible you get stuck with a 400 dollar per month premium for a single person.

The logic just escapes me - if someone can’t afford to buy health insurance today what makes lawmakers believe that they can afford to pay a huge deductible? Many will just continue to go to the ER, run up a big bill, and walk away from it.

This obamanation has to go away!


7 posted on 08/24/2011 10:54:00 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: TSgt

Sarah was Right ping


8 posted on 08/24/2011 10:55:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I plan on dropping my individual coverage. I'm self-employed.

As an insurance agent.

9 posted on 08/24/2011 10:55:55 AM PDT by TonyInOhio ("From the Halls of Martha's Vineyard to the Shores of Tripoli")
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To: redgolum
Many companies wanted Obamacare.

"Shove your costs onto somebody else's books" lies at the heart of the MBA degree...
10 posted on 08/24/2011 10:57:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TSgt

Unexpectedly, of course...


11 posted on 08/24/2011 10:57:40 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: msrngtp2002

“The logic just escapes me - if someone can’t afford to buy health insurance today what makes lawmakers believe that they can afford to pay a huge deductible?”

Everybody will be able to. We just have to not purchase the insurance and pay the premium. Then when we get sick, we go buy the coverage and pay the deductible. Overall, that will be a savings. Heck, they can’t turn anyone away for pre-existing conditions, so why buy ahead of time?


12 posted on 08/24/2011 11:00:54 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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I don’t think an individual’s health care coverage should have anything to do with one’s employer, in the first place.

Additionally, the highly touted “group rates”, just means unfairly higher costs for healthy individuals.


13 posted on 08/24/2011 11:02:13 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: TSgt

this is the ugly secret of obamacare. The businesses have WANTED THIS FROM DAY ONE in order to screw the taxpayer with these bills.


14 posted on 08/24/2011 11:07:46 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TSgt

ObamaCare was DESIGNED to do this.


15 posted on 08/24/2011 11:19:13 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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To: TSgt
My wife works as a dispatcher for the city police dept. The first week of August, the employees had an "all hands" meeting. They were informed that their rather nice health insurance with "Tall Tree" was canceled as of August 1st. The reason is that continued coverage for the city employees was going to cost another $800,000 for the period August to December 31st. The city didn't have the money. The replacement plan is "catastrophic" coverage plus an HSA.

My wife called with the news. I discovered that my own coverage ($600/month payroll deduction) with a FlexSpend account made her ineligible for the HSA offered. Further, since her birthday falls in July and mine in August, her coverage had always been "primary". Having "catastrophic" coverage as "primary" is a non-starter. The only reasonable option was for my wife to decline the employer provided coverage. That represents a huge cut in her compensation, but what is offered is completely unacceptable.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. My company does the annual healthcare sign up in November. I'll find out if we're screwed on my coverage too.

16 posted on 08/24/2011 11:19:42 AM PDT by Myrddin
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It does.
To be honest though, we have socialized medicine now. Only the businesses pay for it.

One of the managers at my current job said they would be willing to hirer more older workers if they didn’t have to pay health care. I know how much our current employees cost, many over 50, and I can understand why that would be.


17 posted on 08/24/2011 11:37:22 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: TonyInOhio

I’d like to but my wife is so insistent on it. I really can’t afford to go to a doctor for anything anyways.


18 posted on 08/24/2011 11:40:45 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Myrddin

I just found out today, that my company will now charge extra for having my spouse on my health plan, because she is eligible for coverage at her company. And the only plans they’ll offer are the high-deductible ones. I can definitely see where it’s going, I expect by 2014, it will be all gone.


19 posted on 08/24/2011 11:41:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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We had Kaiser Permanente coverage in San Diego through Dec 2000. When we moved to Idaho, I had to go with the company self-insurance using an Aetna PPO. Medical service providers are in short supply in eastern Idaho. It's going to get more difficult as this asinine Obamacare wipes out private insurance offerings.
20 posted on 08/24/2011 11:58:06 AM PDT by Myrddin
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