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Bangor woman records couple dumping water in food stamp scam
Bangor Daily News ^ | August 22, 2011 | Nok-Noi Ricker

Posted on 08/25/2011 4:48:09 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

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To: muawiyah
The reason bottled water is on the list is very simple ~ there really are people so poor they don't have safe running water.

Not in Bangor ME there aren't.

61 posted on 08/26/2011 10:35:39 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Moonman62

Yeah, you are cruel ~ and ignorant of the situation. Here’s the trick though ~ it’s NOT a scam with bottled water ~ it’s a deal to get back the deposit. MOST STATES do not require a bottle deposit. Only some do ~ see the list here: http://www.bottlebill.org/legislation/usa.htm Get them in line with the rest of the nation and only people who need bottled water will buy it with food stamps.


62 posted on 08/26/2011 10:36:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ridesthemiles
What precisely is the mistake?

If the objective is to give food to the poor, and you have people take it and then sell it to others, the question is did the poor get the food?

Or, were those wealthy matrons from the Condos who were down there buying donated food?

It's entirely possible the "resellers" actually improved the performance of the free food market.

Do we have any "resellers" on Free Republic? They can tell you how this works.

Quite frankly capitalism is a good way to distribute goods and services in the most efficient manner.

63 posted on 08/26/2011 10:40:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Do you believe that those who are using a handpump on a well are getting foodstamps/EBT and using them to buy bottled water? Really?


64 posted on 08/26/2011 10:45:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Lurker

Maine doesn’t really need a bottle deposit system either.


65 posted on 08/26/2011 10:45:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lurker

Maine doesn’t really need a bottle deposit system either.


66 posted on 08/26/2011 10:45:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Ask anyone that donates food to food banks -

those “picking up” invariably drive nicer/newer cars than those “dropping off”.


67 posted on 08/26/2011 10:46:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
I've lived in areas where the well water was the ONLY water around and it wasn't safe for drinking without first boiling it.

Bottled water certainly makes good sense.

Do all of you people live in cities or something? I thought we had some rural folks around ~

68 posted on 08/26/2011 10:47:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ridesthemiles

There was a woman selling food at her sister’s flea market stand. People marveled at the low prices of the stuff. Turned out it was bought with free government money.

In the old days, private group homes for the retarded would ask for donations of things like Christmas decorations and return them to Walmart for cash.


69 posted on 08/26/2011 10:48:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: MrB
Buddy of mine used to do the apple run to SE DC. The folks coming for the free apples were ordinarily children and they didn't have cars.

That's a pretty nasty area ~ worse in years gone by ~ but whatever you want to say about the poor actually being rich people in drag, that's not the case there.

70 posted on 08/26/2011 10:48:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Ever use a handpump on a well?

Ah, I see what you mean. :)

71 posted on 08/26/2011 10:50:11 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: "I love when the liberals get all wee-wee'd up.")
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To: muawiyah

How did people ever survive before bottled water?


72 posted on 08/26/2011 10:51:10 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: MrB
BTW, my buddy used to pull up at the back of the Safeway and Giant and they'd bring out the apples for him to load into his SUV.

No doubt there were some folks who observed this imagined that he was taking the donations somewhere to sell them ~ perhaps at a farmer's market the next day or something.

He had a pretty good SUV.

There are a whole host of people who work part time voluntarily to get surplus food into the hands of the poor who either can't afford it or can't get to it. One of the reasons you end up poor is a real disability.

73 posted on 08/26/2011 10:53:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LearsFool
Depends on the area, I suppose. My husband used to live in an area that you could have new and interesting pets just by pouring yourself a glass of water.

But, I will also say the idea of someone dumping water makes me shudder, since I live in a desert.

74 posted on 08/26/2011 10:55:25 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: goseminoles
Doing that would be too much like working for a living.
75 posted on 08/26/2011 10:56:21 AM PDT by AF_Blue ("America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad ass speed." - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936)
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To: muawiyah

That still didn’t answer my question/point.

If a person’s situation is such that the only source of water is a handpump well,
are you seriously positing that they’ll use foodstamps to buy bottled water to drink?


76 posted on 08/26/2011 10:59:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Moonman62
i really don't know. Typhoid used to be common. If caught in time the death rate is only 1%. If you wait it rises to 12% to 30% depending on the strain of the bacteria and resistance to antibiotics.

If you have a disease hit your community with a 30% death rate, and it comes back every year, pretty soon you won't have a community.

Two things wiped out typhoid ~ clean water supplies and vaccines.

BTW: Typhoid is not wiped out of course.

77 posted on 08/26/2011 11:02:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MrB
If there only source of water is a hazardous well (not all that common but known), and they qualify for foodstamps, why would they not get bottled water?

Do you propose that for the sake of somebody's idea of ideological purity that people on food stamps drink from contaminated wells?

78 posted on 08/26/2011 11:03:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Wow... I don’t even know how to address the strawman you set up.

OK, sure. People on foodstamps should drink from contaminated wells.

I’m giving up on getting you to see the point.

This reminds me of the leftists’ attitude towards welfare fraud - it doesn’t matter how much fraud is involved, as long as everyone that needs help gets it from the government. When I presented this view of welfare to my favorite libinlaw, she vehemently denied that that was her or other liberals’ viewpoint, but then in the next breath said “but it’s more important that everyone get covered”.


79 posted on 08/26/2011 11:09:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: muawiyah
Do you propose that for the sake of somebody's idea of ideological purity that people on food stamps drink from contaminated wells?

It's not so much a question of purity of ideology. This is sort of the heart of Conservative ideology.

It is right that the government put a gun to my head and forcibly confiscate my money so that the do-gooders in Washington (after skimming off quite a bit) can distribute my money to people with contaminated wells.

The fact that contaminated wells are a tragedy is actually a side issue. We can all agree that such things are a shame.

The question is: Can I decide how to behave, or should my government force me to "do the right thing" (as they see it)?

I'm a Conservative and whether the issue is contaminated wells or incandescent light bulbs, I say: They don't have the right to make my choices for me.

80 posted on 08/26/2011 11:14:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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