Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Food Stamps Are a Bargain On D.C. Streets (So This Is Why Food Stamps Are "Stimulative") 1997
Washington Post ^ | December 28, 1997 | Hamil R. Harris

Posted on 08/26/2011 4:26:26 PM PDT by danielmryan

It was the first Monday of the month, and a line numbering more than a hundred spilled from the doors of the District's largest food stamp office and down the sidewalk nearly a half-block to the corner of Seventh and H streets NE.

Children darted among the adults as the procession moved at a funereal pace toward the building -- a 10-minute walk from the U.S. Capitol -- where food stamps are dispensed. The hustlers who trade drugs, stolen goods and cash for food stamps waited patiently outside for people to emerge clutching books of stamps.

"For a $65 book, I am not going to give you over $30," a man wearing a leather jacket said as he and his partner did a brisk business almost within earshot of a security guard posted at the front door.

(Excerpt) Read more at web.archive.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: foodstamps; fraud; keynesianism
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-87 next last
I'm sure you've heard the Keynesian claim that food-stamp spending generates far more income than the money dished out for them. This smoking-gun article explains why.

Near the end of it: "[A] Baltimore grocery store owner who was ordered to pay $1.3 million in fines after EBT tracking revealed that he had illegally trafficked in food stamps to the tune of $400,000. Investigators determined that the store was taking in far more revenue from EBT cards than its inventory made possible. They said 10 EBT card-holders confessed to selling benefits for cash on 203 occasions." (Underlining added.)

How do you think that store's revenue would show up in the national-account statistics?

The article claims that EBT makes fraud far more difficult, but I have my doubts. This article shows that any 'stimulative' effect of food stamps is, prima facie, due to food-stamp fraud.

I hope you enjoy, or are at least enlightened by, this "FR Archive Dive." I found it early this morning because I couldn't access FR and I was curious about the old days. The original poster was BobS.

1 posted on 08/26/2011 4:26:29 PM PDT by danielmryan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

Just another reason for why they got rid of food stamps.


2 posted on 08/26/2011 4:28:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

Now I just need to find out where in Florida I can buy food stamps at less than half face value so I can cut my grocery bill in half.

How about we start giving out FOOD instead of food stamps from now on? This along with required drug testing for those getting assistance would collapse every blighted section of society nearly overnight.


3 posted on 08/26/2011 4:38:25 PM PDT by Teflonic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Teflonic

For the life of me, I can’t understand why the WIC model (coupons for specific foods, in specific quantities) has not been adopted across the welfare system. The gov’t seems so gung-ho to tell the rest of us what we should eat, so why not do some “nutritional planning” for people who eat on the taxpayer’s dime?


4 posted on 08/26/2011 4:42:23 PM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

Some months ago, as I was heading into Giant Eagle, a “minority” woman asked if I had a grocery list. She said she would buy my groceries, if I would pay her 75% of the tab. I said no, and she immediately dropped her fee to 50%. I told her to get lost. She screamed every name in the book at me as I went into the store!


5 posted on 08/26/2011 4:43:03 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

It’s the reason they got rid of food stamps and went to debit type cards.


6 posted on 08/26/2011 4:43:54 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-Etb0k0Q


7 posted on 08/26/2011 4:45:37 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Retired Chemist; muawiyah
I'm aware that they went to cards so as to keep a lid on fraud, but I still think that 'stimulus' conclusion is tainted. Elsewhere in the article, one of the food-stamp playas said that EBT wouldn't get rid of fraud. Although I'm sure the fraud is less visible now.
8 posted on 08/26/2011 4:47:43 PM PDT by danielmryan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Doogle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRgB2eeHZEw&feature=related


9 posted on 08/26/2011 4:48:51 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

75% is a ripoff. The going rate is ALWAYS 50 cents on a dollar. She was trying to rip you off.


10 posted on 08/26/2011 4:54:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If the Tea Party was a bunch of Islamofascist "rebels", would the state run "media" like us too?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

Food stamp fraud is just as bad now as it ever has been. Maybe worse. EBT cards didn’t even slow it down. The cards were issued to cut down on the embarrassment of having to count out food stamps at the cash register.


11 posted on 08/26/2011 5:02:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If the Tea Party was a bunch of Islamofascist "rebels", would the state run "media" like us too?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Some months ago, as I was heading into Giant Eagle, a “minority” woman asked if I had a grocery list. She said she would buy my groceries, if I would pay her 75% of the tab. I said no, and she immediately dropped her fee to 50%. I told her to get lost. She screamed every name in the book at me as I went into the store!

Allow me to brush off my rusty Keynesianism 101 and show you how, if you had accepted the deal, it would have made the shady transaction 'stimulative':

- Dr. Alternate Pachysandra ends up buying $100 worth of groceries for $50, making for $50' worth of spending. Unfortunately, this $50 would have been spent by Dr. Alternate anyway - making for no net spending. Moreover, Ms. Screamie won't report it so it won't show up in the accounts.

- Ms. Screamie takes her food stamps and buys $100 worth of food. Net spending: $100.

- After Dr. Alternate and Ms. Screamie part the ways, the latter takes her $50 and buys smokes. Net spending: $50.

Total spending: $0 + $100 + $50 = $150.

Now, to the revenue side. The grocery store got $100 in revenue. The smoke shop got $50. Dr. Alternate's $50 spend on his groceries by giving Ms. Screamie the cash won't show up in the accounts, so it adds $0.

[Side comment: Yes, I'm aware of Bastiat, but I'm calculating like a Keynesian.]

Total spending by government at the margin: $100 for the food EBT. Total addition to the national-income accounts: $150. Food-stamp multiplier: 1.5

Ah, fraud. Wotta stimulation!

12 posted on 08/26/2011 5:05:13 PM PDT by danielmryan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

This article is so bogus! There is no such thing as “food stamp books” anymore. At one time food stamps were paper coupons that were the same as cash. Not only could you sell them on the street for fifty cents on the dollar, but every little bodega and mom & pop store in America were buying them for cash, too. It was very corrupt, and very wasteful. About ten years ago they wised up and changed the system. Now food “stamps” come on a card with a PIN. It’s gaudy and has a big American flag on it. So when you’re standing at the checkout counter at the grocery store, everybody can see that you’re swiping a food stamp card. And if some loser gets desperate enough to sell it, then he has to sell his PIN, too.


13 posted on 08/26/2011 5:08:49 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sthguard
For the life of me, I can’t understand why the WIC model (coupons for specific foods, in specific quantities) has not been adopted across the welfare system.

You just aren't cynical enough, that's all.

The driving force behind the never ending expansion of the program is the vast array of commodity groups and companies that benefit from increased sales of their products. Food stamp advocates get the most broad-based support for expanding the program by including pretty much anything edible as long as it's not alcohol.

Or to put it another way, an army of lobbyists working in unison is better than just three or four or them.

14 posted on 08/26/2011 5:08:49 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Teflonic
"How about we start giving out FOOD instead of food stamps from now on? This along with required drug testing for those getting assistance would collapse every blighted section of society nearly overnight."

BINGO!

Food is probably the LEAST use of Food Stamps and Welfare Debit Cards in EVERY major U.S. city. "OBAMA MONEY....from his Stash..."; that's the way it's treated, and that's why 90%+ of the black voters vote for The Messiah.

15 posted on 08/26/2011 5:10:18 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Doogle

Water Dumping .....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/24/federal-government-tries-to-stop-food-stamp-water-dumping-fraud/

Gheeesh....


16 posted on 08/26/2011 5:11:03 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“She screamed every name in the book at me as I went into the store!”

They’re feeling Obama’s power.

I sure couldn’t live around this garbage.


17 posted on 08/26/2011 5:11:17 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan
D.C. police say stamps are such common currency in the drug world that heroin and crack cocaine dealers routinely operate in the shadows of the food stamp office on H street.

Obama's Stash!

18 posted on 08/26/2011 5:12:31 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan
DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic. All of this fraud goes away. It's the socialism, stupid. It's destroying The United States of America.
19 posted on 08/26/2011 5:19:54 PM PDT by PGalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer
Food stamp fraud is just as bad now as it ever has been. Maybe worse. EBT cards didn’t even slow it down. The cards were issued to cut down on the embarrassment of having to count out food stamps at the cash register.

One day, as an EBT card user was leaving the register, the cashier asked her "do you want your receipt?". She sort of waved her off with a hand as she began to walk off.

Being next in line, I said (rather loudly) "I'll take it! As a taxpayer who helped buy those groceries, it's mine anyway".

LOL! Got the ugly looks from the cashier and the deadbeat.

20 posted on 08/26/2011 5:22:57 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: KittenClaws

LOL! You got that right.


21 posted on 08/26/2011 5:25:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If the Tea Party was a bunch of Islamofascist "rebels", would the state run "media" like us too?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: jespasinthru
This article is so bogus! There is no such thing as “food stamp books” anymore.

Part of it discusses the introduction of those cards. As other posters have pointed out, there's still fraud a'happenin' now.

Here's another way. Remember those EBT-holdin' people that buy lobsters and steaks with their stash? The ones with the fine cars?

Ever stop and wonder how they got the $ for those cars?

"I don't need no ****** receipt! It's new! Not even touched by my hands! Just gimme the money back!"

And again, the money gets spent...

Or: instead of chowing down, the lucky buyer of food-stamp luxuries goes to the food bank, eats the food-bank food and sell the goodies for 50 cents on the dollar. And again, the money gets spent...

22 posted on 08/26/2011 5:26:26 PM PDT by danielmryan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

This article is so bogus! There is no such thing as “food stamp books” anymore. At one time food stamps were paper coupons that were the same as cash. Not only could you sell them on the street for fifty cents on the dollar, but every little bodega and mom & pop store in America were buying them for cash, too. It was very corrupt, and very wasteful. About ten years ago they wised up and changed the system. Now food “stamps” come on a card with a PIN. It’s gaudy and has a big American flag on it. So when you’re standing at the checkout counter at the grocery store, everybody can see that you’re swiping a food stamp card. And if some loser gets desperate enough to sell it, then he has to sell his PIN, too.


23 posted on 08/26/2011 5:30:36 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jespasinthru
This article is so bogus! There is no such thing as “food stamp books” anymore.
The article is from 1997
24 posted on 08/26/2011 5:31:36 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: jespasinthru
"This article is so bogus! There is no such thing as “food stamp books” anymore."

The article is from 1997. Look at the header.

Just sayin'.

25 posted on 08/26/2011 5:32:06 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is that you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: sthguard

A friend was in a grocery store behind a WIC “client.” Big mistake. The WIC transactions take forever, because every single thing in the basket is evaluated individually by a program that works off the bar code of the item.

The woman was buying a loaf of bread that was rejected by the program. The clerk went back and got the “right” loaf of bread...and it cost a lot more than the one the WIC recipient had picked in the first place!

That’s government nutritional planning for you. Personally, I think we should go back to the old surplus food program.

What people got was food. It was all nutritionally good stuff if not wildly attractive (canned meat, butter, processed cheese, powdered eggs, cornmeal, flour, beans, powdered milk, canned veggies). They had to cook it themselves, and there were recipes available and even cooking classes that gave them suggestions. Or if they traded it to somebody else for something they wanted (that is, butter for fruit, for example), that was something they did on their own.


26 posted on 08/26/2011 5:34:07 PM PDT by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: sthguard

“so why not do some “nutritional planning” for people who eat on the taxpayer’s dime?”

It bugs the hell out of me to see these families of 3-400 pounders in the store, knowing it is my tax dollars at work


27 posted on 08/26/2011 5:41:57 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

You should have done it at 50%, at least you would have gotten some return for your taxes paid


28 posted on 08/26/2011 5:44:07 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: traditional1

only give them fruit and vegatables, and you could solve the obesity epidemic at the same time!


29 posted on 08/26/2011 5:46:09 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Figment

we got those people here also, we call them “scooter fat” because they are so fat they have to ride around the store in those scooters meant for the handicaped.


30 posted on 08/26/2011 5:48:18 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Some months ago, as I was heading into Giant Eagle, a “minority” woman asked if I had a grocery list. She said she would buy my groceries, if I would pay her 75% of the tab. I said no, and she immediately dropped her fee to 50%. I told her to get lost. She screamed every name in the book at me as I went into the store!

I would not be surprised if a great number of welfare women worked off the books as maids, nannies, etc, and traded groceries with their employers for additional cash.

31 posted on 08/26/2011 5:58:21 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

This “news” is 3-1/2 years old.


32 posted on 08/26/2011 6:11:43 PM PDT by JoeGar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Teflonic

Actually, I doubt if there are any “food stamps” anywhere in the country now. Pretty sure they all get plastic cards — called here in MD “Independence” (chortle!) cards.


33 posted on 08/26/2011 6:16:08 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Teflonic

They would just sell the food.


34 posted on 08/26/2011 6:20:18 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan; BobS
The original poster was BobS

. Why not ping him to his own thread? He's still here.

35 posted on 08/26/2011 6:31:14 PM PDT by Graybeard58
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

“The cards were issued to cut down on the embarrassment of having to count out food stamps at the cash register”

Have to disagree on that one , these folks are not embarrassed by anything. They took the stigma of freebies away at the school level. Every kid, no matter the family income , gets a free lunch card now days. It’s like playschool foodstamps


36 posted on 08/26/2011 6:35:05 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: sthguard
For the life of me, I can’t understand why the WIC model (coupons for specific foods, in specific quantities)

About 35 years ago, my wife and I were foster parents, to mostly 9 year olds and under. W.I.C. started delivering groceries to our door, even though we told them that we didn't need it, mostly milk, cereal, cheese, peanut butter, rice, etc. It was all quality stuff, especially the cheese and peanut butter were quite tasty.

37 posted on 08/26/2011 6:36:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

Obama voters.


38 posted on 08/26/2011 6:40:23 PM PDT by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58; BobS
Sorry, I forgot about that.

To BobS: What's old is relevant again. If you have any FR memories, as well as any comment on this article you posted way back when, please join in.

39 posted on 08/26/2011 6:54:49 PM PDT by danielmryan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: JoeGar
Actually, 13 1/2 years old. I posted it in news because a related issue - the claim that food-stamp spening its "stimulative" - has made the news recently.

Are you suggesting it would be better placed in Chat?

40 posted on 08/26/2011 6:58:47 PM PDT by danielmryan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

Not everyone who gets food stamps is on total welfare. Some are working poor and pay taxes as well. They have children to feed and with the price of everything inflated now a days - the food stamps help. Some of you are so judgmental. Never judge a person until you walk a mile in their shoes. People who have lost their jobs in this economy are having to get food stamps to feed their families as well. They’ve paid their fair share of taxes in the past, and I feel they deserve to reap some help from helping others. Some of you want them to eat rice, beans, etc. when you yourself wouldn’t touch the stuff. Just because tax dollars pay to help those in need, not a one of you would want to be told what you can and can’t purchase for your family. That is unless you are Moochelle Obama and ilk.

Jesus said in the gospels: I was hungry and you fed me not. Are any of you helping to feed the poor? Yes, you are, with your tax dollars. Sure, there is some waste in the system, and some buy luxury items. If you’ve ever worked at a voluntary food bank - you’d get an idea of what some of you good-hearted folks think the poor should eat. Can after can of off-brand tomato soup, that the donor and family wouldn’t eat themselves. Cheap boxes of mac & cheese - lots of them, and the list goes on.

Don’t judge a few who have milked the system by those honest people who really do need the help. Some have the idea that food stamp recipients drive fancy cars. None that I’ve seen do - just as there is abuse in everything - there is abuse in food stamps, but some want to punish everyone because they pay taxes and think they should tell others to be good food stamp recipients and eat their beans and rice. Some of you may be in a situation some day when you will have to apply for help. Not everyone has family and friends who can consistently help out to feed families. Nor do they want to. I find most people today selfish and greedy and judgmental toward others who need help.

Ok, end of my rant.


41 posted on 08/26/2011 8:05:49 PM PDT by Catsrus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

Not everyone who gets food stamps is on total welfare. Some are working poor and pay taxes as well. They have children to feed and with the price of everything inflated now a days - the food stamps help. Some of you are so judgmental. Never judge a person until you walk a mile in their shoes. People who have lost their jobs in this economy are having to get food stamps to feed their families as well. They’ve paid their fair share of taxes in the past, and I feel they deserve to reap some help from helping others. Some of you want them to eat rice, beans, etc. when you yourself wouldn’t touch the stuff. Just because tax dollars pay to help those in need, not a one of you would want to be told what you can and can’t purchase for your family. That is unless you are Moochelle Obama and ilk.

Jesus said in the gospels: I was hungry and you fed me not. Are any of you helping to feed the poor? Yes, you are, with your tax dollars. Sure, there is some waste in the system, and some buy luxury items. If you’ve ever worked at a voluntary food bank - you’d get an idea of what some of you good-hearted folks think the poor should eat. Can after can of off-brand tomato soup, that the donor and family wouldn’t eat themselves. Cheap boxes of mac & cheese - lots of them, and the list goes on.

Don’t judge a few who have milked the system by those honest people who really do need the help. Some have the idea that food stamp recipients drive fancy cars. None that I’ve seen do - just as there is abuse in everything - there is abuse in food stamps, but some want to punish everyone because they pay taxes and think they should tell others to be good food stamp recipients and eat their beans and rice. Some of you may be in a situation some day when you will have to apply for help. Not everyone has family and friends who can consistently help out to feed families. Nor do they want to. I find most people today selfish and greedy and judgmental toward others who need help.

Ok, end of my rant.


42 posted on 08/26/2011 8:06:01 PM PDT by Catsrus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Catsrus; PapaBear3625
Jesus said in the gospels: I was hungry and you fed me not. Are any of you helping to feed the poor? Yes, you are, with your tax dollars. Sure, there is some waste in the system, and some buy luxury items. If you’ve ever worked at a voluntary food bank - you’d get an idea of what some of you good-hearted folks think the poor should eat. Can after can of off-brand tomato soup, that the donor and family wouldn’t eat themselves. Cheap boxes of mac & cheese - lots of them, and the list goes on.

Don’t judge a few who have milked the system by those honest people who really do need the help. Some have the idea that food stamp recipients drive fancy cars. None that I’ve seen do - just as there is abuse in everything - there is abuse in food stamps, but some want to punish everyone because they pay taxes and think they should tell others to be good food stamp recipients and eat their beans and rice.


A. Jesus wasn't talking to the U.S. federal government or to a handful of bureaucrats to use government power to extort money from one person to give it to another.

B. From what I have seen in over 7 years of very intimately watching food stamp use, most of it is unnecessary and serves as a means of freeing up dollars to be used for drugs, tobacco, alcohol, entertainment, lottery, bling, and a bazillion other things that are simply not necessities of life by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, food stamp use should be tightly regulated and restricted to the purchase of basic foodstuffs that must be prepared at home in order to be used. No swordfish. No ice cream. No Doritos or candy. No FRIGGING BUBBLE GUM OR BOTTLED WATER!!!!
43 posted on 08/26/2011 8:24:10 PM PDT by aruanan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Catsrus

If you are a Christian, then make your point without bringing Christ into your argument for government.


44 posted on 08/27/2011 12:47:30 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Teflonic
How about we start giving out FOOD instead of food stamps from now on?

Prison Loaf

45 posted on 08/27/2011 12:54:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Catsrus
Jesus said in the gospels: I was hungry and you fed me not. Are any of you helping to feed the poor?

Jesus admonished people to directly take care of the poor.

Jesus never took money at gunpoint to redistribute.

46 posted on 08/27/2011 2:47:34 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Moonman62; Teflonic; Catsrus

The Salvation Army soup kitchens were a good example of effective nutrition-distribution. They didn’t give out money. They didn’t give out food that could be re-sold for drugs or booze. They provided a place where the hungry could come in and eat, at the price of listening to a sermon and maybe being cajoled into improving their lives.


47 posted on 08/27/2011 2:53:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Catsrus
Christ also said there would always be poor among us because of who sits in Moses seat... Moses was the law giver and the law has become so perverted that by law poor are created.

Now as for your rant on eating beans and rice, I know many people whose diet consistently contains beans and rice... Why I fixed that combination myself just yesterday. But of course I was able to add to them items that I raised from my garden, such as tomatoes, corn, cucumbers, etc....

For so many cooking from scratch was never a lesson learned and toooo many rely upon a box of something or a ready made meal zapped in the microwave.

Maybe these food pantries might give cooking classes using the ‘cheap’ food items such as rice and beans with the off brand tomato soup. I would say growing up our primary staple was beans and whatever else that was grown to fix a meal. Many a year my after school snack was a baked sweet potato. I maybe have used a boxed cake mix less than ten times in all of my cooking years.

48 posted on 08/27/2011 3:28:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: danielmryan

They haven’t used food stamp books in years. It’s on a debit card now.


49 posted on 08/27/2011 4:39:56 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Admin Moderator
Thanks for adding the year of publication to the title.
50 posted on 08/27/2011 4:54:40 AM PDT by danielmryan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-87 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson