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Perry wants a “level playing field” & an end to ethanol mandate (audio)
Radio Iowa ^ | August 28, 2011 | O. Kay Henderson

Posted on 08/28/2011 3:42:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry says it’s time for the federal government to quit picking winners and losers, and that includes federal efforts to boost the ethanol industry.

Perry, the governor of oil-rich Texas, opposes the federal “renewable fuels standard” which requires a certain amount of corn-based ethanol be produced in the U.S. each year.

“I’d like to see a level playing field for all of the energy producers in this country,” Perry told reporters in Iowa tonight.

Iowa corn farmers support the federal rule which requires an increasing volume of ethanol be produced through 2015. Perry told reporters tonight that he supports “all of the sources of energy” that are out there, including so-called biofuels like ethanol, but he’s against the federal government requiring a certain amount of ethanol be produced each year.

“We don’t need to have government picking winners and losers in this business,” Perry said during a news conference in Des Moines. “Let the folks get out there with the regulations off their back. I have a good idea that the farmers in Iowa can compete with anybody in the world.”

Perry’s view on ethanol is echoed by many “Tea Party” activists who have complained about tax breaks for ethanol and other industries and who have harshly criticized federal bail-outs for Wall Street and American automakers. Ethanol producers say they’re willing to give up their federal subsidies if federal tax advantages for the oil industry are abolished, too.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: biofuels; energy; epa; ethanol; perry; perry2012; rickperry; screwedthepooch; shothimselfinthefoot; texas
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*****AUDIO (12 Min) ***** ***** Perry: “I haven’t backed off anything in my book”
1 posted on 08/28/2011 3:42:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If ethanol was such a great fuel, let the market decide its value.

Too many Iowa farmers bought into this subsidy drug and are now hooked.

Look guys, taking in government money to produce something people don’t want to pay for is just stealing from your neighbors. Just like creeping into their house at night and lifting bucks out of that wallet on the dresser.

Only difference is you have the force of government behind your stealing.

You’re still creeping.


2 posted on 08/28/2011 4:10:16 AM PDT by plangent
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To: plangent
...Too many Iowa farmers bought into this subsidy drug and are now hooked....

And by design.

Perry's out there trying to talk them off the ledge -- back "inside" -- from socialist control to free-market competition.

3 posted on 08/28/2011 4:15:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
Aug 5, 2011: Finding middle ground on EPA-Texas electric squabble [EPA doesn’t do “middle” ground] “Texas' grudge match with the Environmental Protection Agency is getting nastier and riskier, with the fallout threatening to reach the state's power grid. Want another reason to worry about the lights staying on? Or how about another hit to the economy? You've heard lots of political posturing about Texas' way of life being threatened by an overreaching federal government. This time, Gov. Rick Perry has a point. …………..

Don't be surprised if the attorney general jumps in after Perry slammed the rule for threatening Texas jobs and families and putting reliable, affordable electricity at risk. Late last week, 31 members of Congress from Texas, including eight Democrats, signed a letter to the White House asking for relief. The utility commission also filed objections with the EPA.

Texas officials and the EPA have been clashing over air pollution and environmental issues for the past decade. The conflict has deepened under the Obama administration as the EPA turned more aggressive and Perry sharpened his attacks on Washington.”………

4 posted on 08/28/2011 4:16:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Corn belongs on my dinner plate, not my gas tank.


5 posted on 08/28/2011 4:16:50 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The Good Samaritan didn't use a Government credit card.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Ethanol producers say they’re willing to give up their federal subsidies if federal tax advantages for the oil industry are abolished, too."

Yea, right. We'll give up our subsidies and keep our regular tax deductions offered to all corporations as long as they take away those tax deductions from the oil companies that are there for every business, no matter the industry.

Purposely worded to make it sound they will give up the same as what is taken away from the oil companies. They are setting up the unfair advantage they already have against oil.

6 posted on 08/28/2011 4:46:44 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have always said I would vote for the candidate who first stood firm against ethanol tax breaks, mandated fuel mixtures and tariffs. Bachmann is slowly caving -- let's see if Perry holds true.

If the damned Iowa caucuses were later in the year, we probably could have gotten rid of this outrage.

7 posted on 08/28/2011 4:51:39 AM PDT by BfloGuy (In old fashioned language, Keynes proposed cheating the workers.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ll take Gov. Palin’s position: let’s take away special subsidies for all energy providers.


8 posted on 08/28/2011 5:02:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TheRobb7

Fill your plate with #2 yellow dent corn and let us know how it tastes.


9 posted on 08/28/2011 5:02:59 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Damn Straight!


10 posted on 08/28/2011 5:06:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Go back to MTBE and return to food for food and fuel for fuel.


11 posted on 08/28/2011 5:24:22 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: plangent
Turning food into fuel to get worse gas mileage and then subsidizing it is government at it's best.
12 posted on 08/28/2011 5:29:47 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: TheRobb7

or in my glass with ice and water


13 posted on 08/28/2011 5:32:13 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: TheRobb7
Corn belongs on my dinner plate, not my gas tank.
I'll give you a hearty "Amen!" to that.
14 posted on 08/28/2011 5:33:26 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

M-E-R-C-K


15 posted on 08/28/2011 5:35:00 AM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: BfloGuy

Palin did - a while ago.


16 posted on 08/28/2011 5:36:14 AM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: Mr. Lucky

I think he makes an excellent point, though, don’t you? Food for people first. Fuel from other sources.


17 posted on 08/28/2011 5:37:26 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou

Moonshine!!!


18 posted on 08/28/2011 5:39:23 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Iowa corn farmers support the federal rule which requires an increasing volume of ethanol be produced through 2015. Perry told reporters tonight that he supports “all of the sources of energy” that are out there, including so-called biofuels like ethanol, but he’s against the federal government requiring a certain amount of ethanol be produced each year.

“We don’t need to have government picking winners and losers in this business,” Perry said during a news conference in Des Moines. “Let the folks get out there with the regulations off their back. I have a good idea that the farmers in Iowa can compete with anybody in the world.” “

Shades of Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty: Phase out ethanol subsidies
http://gop12.thehill.com/2011/05/pawlenty-phase-out-ethanol-subsidies.html


19 posted on 08/28/2011 5:52:37 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Colonel_Flagg

“.remove the federal regulations that are stifling innovation and job creation...”

AMEN! I agree!


20 posted on 08/28/2011 5:58:39 AM PDT by LUV W (Obama is E V I L!!! RUN, SARAH---RUN!!!)
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To: ken5050

That’s not “food”! =)


21 posted on 08/28/2011 6:03:55 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: 9YearLurker
“We don’t need to have government picking winners and losers in this business,”

But it is OK for him to do in Texas...

Tagline.

22 posted on 08/28/2011 6:16:31 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Rick Perry decision matrix - Is it good for my buds? Is it good for me? Is it good for Texas?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Ha! He’s a target rich environment and if Gov. Palin can’t get past him she’ll have run a worse campaign than I’m expecting.


23 posted on 08/28/2011 6:24:28 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Actually #3 isn’t a decision point as much as it is an unintended consequence...


24 posted on 08/28/2011 6:29:48 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Rick Perry decision matrix - Is it good for my buds? Is it good for me? Is it good for Texas?)
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To: Clara Lou

I’ve tasted really, REALLY smooth moonshine TWICE..just a few sips both times...it’s “mother’s milk” f’sure...


25 posted on 08/28/2011 6:37:53 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

What is Dent Corn?

Dent corn is a variety of corn which is higher in starch and lower in sugar than table corn, the type of corn eaten as a vegetable. There are a wide range of uses for dent corn, which is one of the most cultivated crops around the world. In addition to being used as a source of food for humans, dent corn provides corn starch and other byproducts which can be processed into an assortment of things from biodegradable plastics to fuels. Some people also call dent corn “field corn” to distinguish it from table corn.

The origins of corn as a crop date back to early Mesoamerican cultures, which first tamed the wild relatives of corn to turn them into a usable food crop. In order to be edible, field corn must be processed, typically through grinding it into a flour or soaking it in lye or other substances to soften the outer shell of the corn, as is the case in corn masa. Soaking the corn in lye also frees the niacin bound up in the kernels, making the dent corn more nutritious. Other varieties of corn include popcorn, flour corn, sweet corn, and waxy corn.

The stalks of dent corn usually grow larger than the corn’s sweeter cousin, and the individual kernels have distinctive dents along their sides which led to the common name. The corn is often dried for processing, and is available for sale in a number of different formats including whole cobs, individual kernels, and ground flours. The corn may also be further refined to extract an assortment of useful compounds.

Animal fodder often includes dent corn as a source of nutrition, and since the corn grows cheaply and readily, it is often used to bulk up fodder for feedlot raising. Since the firm kernel corn has a variety of uses, it is very important economically, especially in some regions of the United States. It grows best in regions with long, warm summers which allow the ears of corn to fully mature, and when processed properly dent corn can be stored for up to two years.

Consumers rarely interact directly with whole kernels of dent corn, but they indirectly consume or handle many products of the corn every day. Most meats are produced from animals fed on it, many cosmetics include dent corn byproducts, and an assortment of foods ranging from corn syrup to starches use dent corn as a constituent ingredient.


26 posted on 08/28/2011 6:39:40 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (Islam...Imperialism in a turban.)
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To: TheRobb7
Here's an argument in favor of ethanol subsidies..though admittedly somewhat convoluted...

For decades, screwy farm programs have been paying farmers hundreds of BILLIONS for NOT growing stuff. At least with ethanol, they're actually gowing SOMETHING. Isn't this an improvement of sorts?

27 posted on 08/28/2011 6:42:15 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: TheRobb7

I don’t think you want ethanol type field corn on your plate. :-)


28 posted on 08/28/2011 6:42:15 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Yeah, and #1 is more of a tactic in support of #2.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 6:46:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

LOL!


30 posted on 08/28/2011 7:08:28 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Rick Perry decision matrix - Is it good for my buds? Is it good for me? Is it good for Texas?)
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To: ResponseAbility
“field corn”

That's what I knew it as, growing up in Wisconsin.

31 posted on 08/28/2011 7:09:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Wow, a Texas governor wants that? Stop the presses. I know — he should advocate the abolition of Medicare and Social Security! That’ll solidify his older constituency.


32 posted on 08/28/2011 7:23:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Rannug; TheRobb7; Mr. Lucky
I don’t think you want ethanol type field corn on your plate. :-)

Actually, every time you have any processed food that says "corn syrup" or "fructose" on the ingredients label, you have field corn on your plate or in your glass.

The point is that, as more acreage is devoted to field corn for the gas tank, less acreage is devoted to any crop for the dinner plate and food prices at Safeway and Publix shoot through the roof.

Ethanol Blamed for Record Food Prices: .... Federal ethanol mandates, which have led to a steady increase in the production of ethanol made from corn, are a major reason why food prices worldwide have reached record levels in the past several months, according to some economists.

Ethanol pumping up food prices

33 posted on 08/28/2011 7:29:48 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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34 posted on 08/28/2011 7:49:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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(added Friday, July 15, 2011)
Pat Buchanan supports ethanol subsidies for energy independence -- stated his "support [for] ethanol production as integral to a policy of national energy independence" and cited an Iowa ethanol production facility he recently visited as "an example of American efficiency." [November 18, 1999 -- Source: Sustainable Energy Coalition, media backgrounder #2]

Pat Buchanan supports developing Caspian pipelines -- an end to draw-downs of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and topping it off, rapid development of the oil resources of Russia, the Caspian, and Central Asia, multiplication of pipelines from the Caspian and the Gulf [October 9, 1999 -- Source: A Republic, not an Empire, p. 381]

Pat Buchanan supports study of the potential of an oil import fee to stimulate conservation and new drilling, and to make clean coal and natural gas more competitive [October 9, 1999 -- Source: A Republic, not an Empire, p. 381]

Pat Buchanan opposes CAFE standards of 45 mpg for new cars and 35 mpg for new light trucks by 2005 [October 4, 1999 -- Source: Sustainable Energy Coalition backgrounder #3]

35 posted on 08/28/2011 7:52:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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(added Saturday, June 4, 2011)

It's the Obamacare, stupid!


One-half gallon of oil in the form of pesticides per bushel of corn would cost $2 to $3 per bushel. If this were true -- and it clearly isn't -- it should be enough to illustrate to literally anyone that the price of petroleum is quite literally the ONLY thing driving corn prices. And this idiotic piece of agitprop -- from a hydrogen "energy" advocacy site -- also shows the guy in the encounter suit spraying chemical fertilizer, a sight that I've never been privileged to see, what with me *growing up on a farm*.

Hydrogen Advocacy Group Anti-Ethanol Agitprop

36 posted on 08/28/2011 7:52:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

37 posted on 08/28/2011 8:51:01 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When Rick Perry gets in he needs to fire every last EPA parasite and bulldoze their office buildings. I am sick and tired of these eco-fanatics ruining our domestic oil/gas/electricity production. Especially over some CO2 emissions due to the global warming hoax.


38 posted on 08/28/2011 9:00:19 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Pat Buchanan supports ethanol subsidies for energy independence -- stated his "support [for] ethanol production as integral to a policy of national energy independence" and cited an Iowa ethanol production facility he recently visited as "an example of American efficiency." [November 18, 1999 -- Source: Sustainable Energy Coalition, media backgrounder #2] "
Pat Buchanan is an idiot. You can't reach a state of "energy independence" by using a fuel that consumes more energy to produce it than it generates. Ethanol is a net negative energy source.
39 posted on 08/28/2011 9:03:00 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s a gutsy thing to say in Iowa. It could cost him any chance of winning the Iowa caucuses. It’s the right thing, of course, and every tea party candidate should go to Iowa and repeat the same thing.


40 posted on 08/28/2011 9:48:06 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mazda77
Purposely worded to make it sound they will give up the same as what is taken away from the oil companies. They are setting up the unfair advantage they already have against oil.

Your statement is misinformation. You probably have your livelihood derived from ethanol. The major problem with ethanol is the federal mandate. Originally, ethanol was touted as a replacement for MTBE. This small mandate has grown into a monstrous 10 to 15 percent mandate. This mandate has been an economic, environmental, and moral disaster for everyone except the corn belt.

The oil industry is not on balance subsidized. Just the opposite, the oil industry pays large levels of taxes, fees, and royalties to governments at all levels in addition to being subjected to incredible levels of regulation and restrictions. The Heritage Foundation did an analysis of so called subsidies. It found that most subsidies are either given to small producers or are tax breaks available to a wide range of industries. There are some questionable practices but overall the practices are not important except to small producers. The ethanol mandates however have made the industry. Without the mandates, you know that the ethanol industry will collapse. I think a gradual elimination of the mandate is a good idea to give producers some time to make a transition.
41 posted on 08/28/2011 10:21:11 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor

The “They” is the ethanol lobby.


42 posted on 08/28/2011 12:12:20 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: gov_bean_ counter

We DONT do it that way in Texas.
Texas is the most business-friendly of the large US states, and its that way due to tort reform, low taxes and a govt that gets out of the way as much as possible.

Perry is right on to oppose ethanol subsidies.


43 posted on 08/28/2011 12:56:43 PM PDT by WOSG (Cut the spending!)
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To: WOSG
Perry received $37 million over 10 years from just 150 donors, which adds up to over a third of the $102 million he had raised as governor

Almost half of those donors received big contracts, tax breaks or appointments during Perry's tenure.

Clearly , Perry is for sale.

44 posted on 08/28/2011 1:08:27 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (If you liked George W. Bush, you will LOVE Rick Perry! Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: RED SOUTH

Nice channelling of the Soros/liberal attack lines.
Do you feel better having repeated their allegations?

Perry’s record is pro-business.
Some business folk have supported him, while millions in trial lawyer money was raised to go after him. They support him because he is a probusiness conservative. That trial lawyer money used the same attacks you just used against Perry.

In the end, the $37m over 10 years is a fraction of what Obama raised in ONE election from wall street and hollywood donors.


45 posted on 08/28/2011 2:23:32 PM PDT by WOSG (Cut the spending!)
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To: Rannug; TheRobb7
Ethanol type field corn does end up on your plate ala the various animals that are fed what's left over after ethanol production.
 


Some of this little feller's corn-fed tasty bits are presently packaged neatly in my freezer.

46 posted on 08/28/2011 2:58:23 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Sudetenland

Yes and no — Pat Buchanan is an idiot, but ethanol doesn’t consume more energy than it takes to produce.


47 posted on 08/28/2011 3:00:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This puts Perry on the right side of at least two gigantic issues including AGW which to me is almost a litmus test.


48 posted on 08/28/2011 3:01:32 PM PDT by steveshoveler
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To: gov_bean_ counter
:(Rick Perry decision matrix - Is it good for my buds? Is it good for me? Is it good for Texas?)

So he should be in favor of things that are bad for his friends, himself and the State he is Governor of?

How stupid is that?

49 posted on 08/28/2011 3:19:16 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
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To: steveshoveler

He’s also going after public education.


50 posted on 08/28/2011 3:22:56 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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