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Marco Rubio speaks in Key Largo
Live on the scene report ^ | 9/29/11 | rodguy911

Posted on 08/29/2011 6:07:11 PM PDT by rodguy911

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To: Spaulding
I don't think we have to worry about Marco not serving, defending or obeying the constitution. IMHO,,thats pretty much a given.

What your post does do however is introduce the question of whether or not the Supremes will ever rule on this issue and if they do what happens to anything obama may have been a part of.

I still think they have made a ruling by not taking the case.

41 posted on 08/29/2011 7:13:20 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: The Bronze Titan

It’s not a problem for me. I’m just passing along what came up at the event.


42 posted on 08/29/2011 7:14:23 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Wish I had known. I live at mm103 oceanside.


43 posted on 08/29/2011 7:18:29 PM PDT by crghill (You can't put a condom on your soul.)
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To: patriot08
True Marco does not go after zero personally but attacks his polices with facts and logic and rightly so.

Simply by stating that the current path we are on is unsustainable and sooner or later those who lend us money will either charge more or not lend at all and by pointing out that the accelerating rate of the debt under obama is unsustainable you know where he's at. It was a first class rebuke IMHO.There is no question about his conservative credentials.

Marcos' entire thrust is that he loves the country,explains how socialism has failed everywhere,an inadvertent slam at zero, wants only the best for it, is sad it has lost its # 1 status but he believes we will come back again and its obvious we need new leadership.

44 posted on 08/29/2011 7:21:46 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

No, I know.

Basically, a state would have to reject the application for candidacy on the ballot based on this, and then it would have to be litigated.

I don’t see that happening.


45 posted on 08/29/2011 7:23:27 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: traditional1
I get your point but at the same time I am sick and tired of the double standard between dems and us.

Either there are rules that apply to both sides or there are not.

Now my guess is that if there were any question about whether or not Rubio s was ineligible to run for potus he probably would not run. He impressed me as that kind of guy.

But why are we always the ones to get run over by the bus, get rolled, or forced to take second shift while the dems do pretty much what they want!! How bout a little fairness in the legal system.?

46 posted on 08/29/2011 7:27:16 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: expat1000

My guess is that he may run for Governor of Fla. is the chance comes up.


47 posted on 08/29/2011 7:28:44 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: crghill

OMG so sorry. Come to our meetings at the local Republican Club,we would love to have you.We obviously didn’t do a real stellar job of getting the word out although I did mention it on here several times.Mods were good enough to leave the posts in as well.


48 posted on 08/29/2011 7:32:54 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Its a fair argument, it will be interesting to see if any states challenge zeros eligibility next year. But like you say its doubtful


49 posted on 08/29/2011 7:35:27 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Hey Thank you for the thread!


50 posted on 08/29/2011 7:38:50 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: rodguy911

It’s my fault. We’ve lived here since January but I haven’t gotten involved. Still trying to make sense of a new job and raising four daughters. Glad to know FRiends are nearby.


51 posted on 08/29/2011 7:40:43 PM PDT by crghill (You can't put a condom on your soul.)
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To: Cheetahcat

No problem, my pleasure.I’m about exhausted, won’t be on here too much longer.


52 posted on 08/29/2011 7:47:15 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: traditional1
That pesky U.S. Constitution and it's clear intent are bunk; I should have known better.

Here is what the Constitution says on citizenship:

Section 8:

"The Congress shall have Power ... To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization"

Amendment 14:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The only Congressional law which specifically used the term "Natural Born Citizen" was the Naturalization Act of 1790, which stated children born offshore of citizens were considered Natural Born Citizens. The Naturalization Act of 1790 was repealed by the Naturalization Act of 1795. The Naturalization Act of 1795 contained no specific language defining Natural Born Citizens.

Regardless, the various Naturalization Acts were superseded by the 14th Amendment in 1868.

Congress gets to define naturalization law within the confines of the Constitution. They have not chosen to do so, therefore the 14th Amendment and associated SCOTUS cases (i.e.: U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark; Vance v. Terrazas) define birthright citizenship.

53 posted on 08/29/2011 7:47:38 PM PDT by magellan
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To: rodguy911; SE Mom; penelopesire; onyx; RedMDer; Lady Jag; The Cajun; tubebender; musicman; ...

What a wonderful event! So glad you were there
and reported your up close and personal observations.
Sounds like the room was thrilled with him. He’s
got quite a story, and what a strong and wonderful, patriotic speaker! Go, Marco!


54 posted on 08/29/2011 7:48:24 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: crghill

As soon as i get the date time and place for the next meeting I will freepmail you with the details.


55 posted on 08/29/2011 7:48:39 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

“No problem, my pleasure.I’m about exhausted, won’t be on here too much longer.”

Nice job!


56 posted on 08/29/2011 7:50:56 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: magellan

Tonight I talked to a former house Rep. who spent many years both in Tallahassee and dc who was unequivocal about stating that the only thing that matters is if you were born here in the US but many Freepers believe that both parents have to have been born here. It probably needs to be adjudicated by the Supremes.


57 posted on 08/29/2011 7:52:41 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: STARWISE
Thanks Star.Yes he is!

I guess the biggest thing you come away with is the clarity in his message. No bs at all. Just straight talk and all of it so logical so conservative with love of country and concern for the citizens of tomorrow so apparent in his words. This is a guy who really loves his country.

58 posted on 08/29/2011 7:55:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
"It probably needs to be adjudicated by the Supremes."

It was in 1898 in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark.

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark concluded a person born in the U.S. to two legal immigrants (non citizens) was a citizen. The question of a person born to illegal immigrants is still an open issue. However, both of Rubio's parents had legal resident status when he was born.

This was decided by the SCOTUS 73 years before Marco Rubio was born.

59 posted on 08/29/2011 8:08:26 PM PDT by magellan
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To: rodguy911
I cannot find anything in the Constitution to suggest jus sanguinis and a jus soli are both required for to meet the Constitution's Natural Born Citizen clause. In fact, the first Congress passed the Naturalization Act of 1790, which stated jus sanguinis alone, met the qualification of a Natural Born Citizen, for children of U.S. Citizens born offshore.

Men can imagine there are requirements beyond those specified in the law, but we are a nation of laws, not men.

60 posted on 08/29/2011 8:23:24 PM PDT by magellan
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