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All traces of Perry/Aga Khan curriculum removed from web
Jihad Watch ^ | August 28, 2011 | ROBERT SPENCER

Posted on 08/29/2011 6:35:07 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan

In this post I included numerous links to the Rick Perry/Aga Khan Islamic curriculum for Texas public schools. The links were to the Google cache of the curriculum material, because several days ago, after we began calling attention to it, the curriculum was taken offline. Accordingly I wrote in that post:

One very odd thing about the Aga Khan/Perry curriculum: since this whole brouhaha started, it has been taken offline. It is now available only in cached form here. Why was it taken down? Was the Perry camp embarrassed by the material that Pamela Geller published here, showing it to be a whitewash of Islamic teaching and history? Or was it taken down because it really is, as Ace says, so "biased against Muslims it will reinforce perceptions [Perry] is some kind of rootin'-tootin' six-gun shooting cowboy yahoo"?

Is either option favorable to Perry? If it was taken down because it's a dhimmi whitewash, Perry is tacitly admitting that our criticisms of him were right, and those evaluating Perry should be concerned about his naivete in dealing with the Aga Khan. If it was taken down because it was too honest about Islam and will thus hurt Perry with the dhimmi/Norquist faction of the GOP, Perry is again tacitly admitting that our criticisms of him were right: he is not able or willing to stand up to Norquist and his Islamic supremacist allies. So which is it? What are they hiding? And does it matter? Either way, the deep-sixing of the curriculum proves that we were right about Perry all along.

Now that impression is compounded by the fact that even the cached links no longer work: the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum has been completely wiped from the web. Pamela Geller has screenshots here, however.

I suspect that the curriculum has been taken down because it is a whitewash of Islamic texts, teachings and history. After all, as I showed here, it relies on compromised "authorities" such as Carl Ernst, John Esposito, and Michael Sells, among others. The apologists for Perry have not explained and cannot explain why, if this curriculum is as innocuous or even as Islamorealistic as they claim, it has been wiped from the web. What is the Perry camp hiding? And why?


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1 posted on 08/29/2011 6:35:09 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan
Plano, TX: "Officials (Governor Perry) lay bricks in symbolic start for Muslim center"

Gov. Rick Perry flew in to lay the first ceremonial brick for the center's foundation. It was a symbolic gesture since the site for the new center will be a few miles northeast of Plano

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1427422/posts

2 posted on 08/29/2011 6:37:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MestaMachine

ping


3 posted on 08/29/2011 6:37:30 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

I suspect it was taken down basically because it’s found out it was a lie. The San Antonio and Mansfield School District applied for federal government FLAP grants (money for foreign language teachers). They needed teachers for Spanish as a second language and English as a second language.

When those grants were handed down the majority of the money was to be spent teaching the Arabic culture and language to every 5th grader with little left over for Spanish....there was a tremendous flap over the whole thing by the parents when they found out and the school districts rejected the grants.

It had nothing to do with Rick Perry or Aga Khan.


4 posted on 08/29/2011 6:41:17 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: The Bronze Titan

In some ways Rick Perry is even worse than Mitt Romney, because he’s a better liar. Say one thing while campaigning, do another once in office.

Haven’t we had enough of that?


5 posted on 08/29/2011 6:42:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Getting it out of view of the Wayback Machine would be more difficult.


6 posted on 08/29/2011 6:42:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: The Bronze Titan

“One very odd thing about the Aga Khan/Perry curriculum: since this whole brouhaha started, it has been taken offline.”

Say no more. Perry is finished.


7 posted on 08/29/2011 6:43:58 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Dear God
Please bless and keep the internet safe and free
Thank you
And algore


8 posted on 08/29/2011 6:44:29 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: dragnet2

Perry Derangement Syndrome? Almost as soon as we hear about it, we are informed that Perry never knew about it and it got roundly repudiated by the school districts so it never went into action either.

It would have been nice if Perry had kept one copy around so everybody could see the offending material, but with an explanation of the circumstances of how it came to be.


9 posted on 08/29/2011 6:46:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: The Bronze Titan

Yes, but Rita Hayworth married the Aga Khan’s brother (for a while). The current one was educated in Kenya. What’s there? Anyone know? He has a residence in Switzerland.

Might I suggest that people please look into the teaching of Islam and how it is handled in their school districts. Over 10 years ago now, some students had a week of instruction, complete with prayers said every day. It’s for the children and tolerance after 9/11, after all. With curriculum designed by Muslims, not Westerners. What could possibly happen?

Arabic flashcards used to be verses of the Qur’an. Except for numbers or the ones you made yourself. This has probably all changed.


10 posted on 08/29/2011 6:48:52 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: RowdyFFC

How dare you confuse them with the facts!


11 posted on 08/29/2011 6:50:31 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: RowdyFFC

Those were not just language programs, for Arabic it was a full immersion into Arabic-Islamic culture... indocrination.

It was to be mandatory.

That was nothing less than shameful.


12 posted on 08/29/2011 7:05:51 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: The Bronze Titan

I found out they are using Arabic numerals to teach kids math in Texas!

OMG! Oh Noes!


13 posted on 08/29/2011 7:06:35 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: dragnet2

“Plano, TX: “Officials (Governor Perry) lay bricks in symbolic start for Muslim center”

Gov. Rick Perry flew in to lay the first ceremonial brick for the center’s foundation. It was a symbolic gesture since the site for the new center will be a few miles northeast of Plano

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1427422/posts";

Oop’s Abu Perry got caught dirty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 08/29/2011 7:11:16 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

I don’t claim to know the facts, but you guys sound like truthers.


15 posted on 08/29/2011 7:11:36 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: GeronL

Well, NO, it wasn’t. How can Freeper be so confused by the facts.


16 posted on 08/29/2011 7:12:49 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
It had nothing to do with Rick Perry or Aga Khan.

There you go, using those stupid little things called "facts" again. Don't you understand that those aren't popular with Pam Geller or a lot of people on Free Republic.

17 posted on 08/29/2011 7:15:43 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: The Bronze Titan

I’m sorry, am I at DU or Kos?


18 posted on 08/29/2011 7:17:58 PM PDT by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Rowdy woman writes, "I *suspect* it was taken down basically because it’s found out it was a lie."

And you state, "There you go, using those stupid little things called "facts" again."

Suspicion turns to facts in the political blink of an eye!

Too funny!

19 posted on 08/29/2011 7:20:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cheetahcat

That FReeper thread has been removed.

Is FR scrubbing off Perry negatives?


20 posted on 08/29/2011 7:21:01 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

By the way, of course it was to be mandatory according to the STIPULATIONS OF THE FEDERAL GRANTS! Did I NOT SAY, the teaching of the Arabic culture and language to every 5th grader? That was the TERMS OF THE FEDERAL GRANTS that had nothing to do with Perry or Khan.


21 posted on 08/29/2011 7:22:46 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: The Bronze Titan

What power he wields already! Just imagine if he becomes President!


22 posted on 08/29/2011 7:25:13 PM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: RowdyFFC; GeronL

“How can Freeper be so confused by the facts.”

They want to be due to prediposed hatred for a certain candidate?


23 posted on 08/29/2011 7:25:16 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Perry.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Duhhhh... we've got two parties.....

24 posted on 08/29/2011 7:25:58 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: reasonisfaith

“Perry is finished.”

It’s fun to dream, huh?


25 posted on 08/29/2011 7:26:03 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Perry.)
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To: RowdyFFC

Yes, it was. I remember all the news articles quite clearly.


26 posted on 08/29/2011 7:26:59 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Since there was nothing untoward in the course, I have no idea why they think Perry took it down.

Maybe because it was the outline to prepare a course, it was out-of-date and when it became public knowledge, they didn’t want the information around.

i’ve found lots of out-of-date school stuff that gets deleted after I call the school board about it. Nobody is very good about keeping their web stuff up-to-date.

Anyway, I’m sure that one of Perry’s opposition was smart enough to save off the curriculum — or maybe not, since the actual information wasn’t damning at all like they claimed, so they are probably happy it’s gone.


27 posted on 08/29/2011 7:27:55 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Beelzebubba

“I don’t claim to know the facts, but you guys sound like truthers.”

No...they aren’t that bright or imaginative.


28 posted on 08/29/2011 7:28:21 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Perry.)
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To: Beelzebubba
-"I don’t claim to know the facts, but you guys sound like truthers."

Now, who's calling whom a 'truther'?

29 posted on 08/29/2011 7:29:33 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: RowdyFFC

When will some brave politico stand up and expose the extent to which Saudi money has weakened our country?


30 posted on 08/29/2011 7:29:42 PM PDT by Misterioso (The worst law is better than bureaucratic tyranny. (Ludwig von Mises)
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To: RowdyFFC

I’ve wondered about that, because the Aga Khan stuff was innocuous, but then there was all this stuff about muslim language which had nothing to do with it, but people were confusing it with the Aga Kahn-sponsored class that was written by a pro-Israel christian professor who struggled to make sure it wasn’t too anti-Muslim.


31 posted on 08/29/2011 7:29:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: reasonisfaith

Really, Reason? I am glad you deemed it so, like Nancy deems laws to pass....


32 posted on 08/29/2011 7:31:27 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: Cheetahcat

I guess you are opposed to muslim centers. Stupid 1st amendment.


33 posted on 08/29/2011 7:31:35 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Grunthor

Houston Chronicle:

http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2011/08/gov-rick-perrys-relationship-with-muslims-may-set-him-apart/

Dallas Morning News”

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/local-voices/headlines/20100821-Zulfi-Ahmed-I-see-acceptance-3406.ece

“Plans are under way to build a mosque in Frisco . East Plano Islamic Center opened recently, too.

Ismaili Jamaatkhana, a 30,000-square-foot Islamic facility in Plano, was inaugurated in 2006 by Gov. Rick Perry and Plano Mayor Pat Evans.

And the list goes on.”


34 posted on 08/29/2011 7:32:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Beelzebubba

Um. These are real MSM articles I just posted.


35 posted on 08/29/2011 7:33:05 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: RowdyFFC

You know, some of us might not have become sooo suspicious of Perry; but for the fact that we feel rushed and that Perry’s being foisted upon us, much as the current messiah in the Whitehouse was.


36 posted on 08/29/2011 7:36:00 PM PDT by old school
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I love how these “true conservatives” are only for 1st amendment rights for some but not for all.


37 posted on 08/29/2011 7:37:46 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: The Bronze Titan

bump.


38 posted on 08/29/2011 7:38:40 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Grunthor

Oh yes, these Houston Chronicle and Dallas Morning News pieces are just figments of our imagination?


39 posted on 08/29/2011 7:39:22 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

Do you ever site sources that are NOT lefty trash?


40 posted on 08/29/2011 7:40:32 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Perry.)
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To: GeronL

Try this. works for me.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1427422/posts

Plano, TX: “Officials lay bricks in symbolic start for Muslim center”

Dallas Morning News

Gov. Rick Perry flew in to lay the first ceremonial brick for the center’s foundation. It was a symbolic gesture


41 posted on 08/29/2011 7:42:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You must be joking. PDS, or Palin Derangement Syndrome, is an actual disease. Perry has earned the criticism he is enduring.


42 posted on 08/29/2011 7:48:57 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"I guess you are opposed to muslim centers. Stupid 1st amendment."

Yes I am VERY opposed to an enemy government setting up in our country,RINO Now Get your brain fixed and learn about Islam you sound foolish! Damn what a fool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

43 posted on 08/29/2011 7:49:20 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: GeronL

Those links are not related to this story. How about an article that is -

A plan to make lessons in Arabic and Arab culture mandatory for students in some Texas schools has been put on hold, following feedback from parents.

Two Schools in the Mansfield Independent School District planned to incorporate Arabic and Arab culture into every aspect of their curriculum. Students in two other schools in the district would have had the OPTION to pursue similar studies.

The district was awarded a $1.3 million grant by the Department of Education last summer as part of the Foreign Language Assistance Program. The Department of Education has identified Arabic, along with Mandarin, as “languages of the future” and the school district said that “students will be at an advantage in an increasingly diverse and economically global society.”

Some parents expressed concern at a meeting that took place on Monday night, saying that they had not been made aware of the proposals earlier.

“It’s a porterhouse steak that’s been served up on a trashcan lid,” said parent Mark Henderson. “We love the idea; we just want to be sure we’re involved in its development.”

Some parents had concerns that Islam would be included in the curriculum, but an official stressed that the curriculum would not be about religion, but about Arabic language and culture.

Editor’s note: This story was updated to reflect the school district’s multiple statements on the story. Planned classes at some schools were initially described as mandatory, but subsequently the district said that there would be no mandatory classes and put the plan on hold.

Find more at dfw.cbslocal.com

Local school district / Federal grant known as FLAP - LOL / Other places mention the grant was issues to 5 school districts throughout the country / Parents complained / School dropped it / Has nothing to do with Perry


44 posted on 08/29/2011 7:49:20 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: The Bronze Titan
From GAWKER of all places:

To register the appropriate level of horror at this collaboration, you must first understand the hidden evil that is the Nizari branch of Ismaili Shi'a Islam. Whereas members of more honorable Islamic sects will come right out and tell you how much they hate America, Americans, and women who know how to read, the Nizari have taken the art of taqiyya — religiously-motivated lying — to undreamt-of holy heights. Look at their website. See how their girlfolk go to schools. See how their men wear suits. See how they celebrate young, guitar-playing, non-hijab wearing Muslim girls for singing secular pop songs. See how they teach their young people to play chess with children of other faiths. This is an extraordinary pantomime of moderation and cosmopolitanism. Could it be that these fiends are so deep undercover that they don't even know they hate us?

Geller accused those in sympathy with Perry's collaboration with the Aga Khan of supporting the "propoganda of unabashed Islamic supremacists," and heavily quoted a reader named Dave, who said he'd looked into the multi-culti Islam-teaching Texan curriculum and learned horrible things. He quoted from the curriculum, or claimed to, and summarized what he'd quoted. "A thorough whitewashing of the nature and history of Islam that ignores Islam's bloody history while simultaneously portraying the Crusades as a bloody assault on Islamic soil by Christians," and "a presentation of the Koran and Muhammad that can only be described as open proselytization for Islam in public schools." Dave concluded:

I'm willing to grant Gov. Perry the benefit of the doubt and believe that his actions are the product of naiveté and ignorance, rather than actual hostility to the West. However, his ignorance is inexcusable, and the damage he has done is immense. If Barack Obama had imposed such a curriculum on schools we'd be calling for his impeachment. Therefore it is unconscionable to look the other way when it comes to Perry. In my opinion, not only should Perry not be President, he should be impeached from the Texas governorship.

This kind of thing gets the anti-Muslim crowd all riled up. But nobody noticed that a crafty anti-jihadi websleuth named David Stein was already examining the evidence against Perry, and trashing it.

It turns out that Geller-lover Dave wasn't quoting from any Texan curricula, but from the abstracts of workshops attended by Texan teachers before any curriculum had been written at all. The actual curriculum being taught in Texas is anti-sharia, pro-Western, and pro-Zionist, and written by a Christian Zionist named David Wiltse.

Geller, displaying the humility and intellectual flexibility you'd expect from a woman who lives to fight dogmatism, neither acknowledged her mistake nor apologized. She bit down harder. Instead she called David Stein a "no-name asshat" and alleged that the Aga Khan's foundation is part-owner of a Syrian bank that allegedly failed to freeze a terrorist's bank accounts — as Rick Perry should have damn well known! Except, as Stein subsequently pointed out, the Aga Khan's foundation didn't buy its shares of the bank until years after the terrorist incident. But! said Geller, what about Rick Perry's secret links to that famed jihad-enabler, Grover Norquist? Which is an expression of craziness so self-evident that it needs no refutation.

45 posted on 08/29/2011 7:51:17 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: KingKongCobra
Two Schools in the Mansfield Independent School District planned to incorporate Arabic and Arab culture into every aspect of their curriculum

Which is exactly what I said. Dhimmi indoctrination.

46 posted on 08/29/2011 7:53:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: RowdyFFC; Valin

Listen, Pam Geller & Robert Spencer can do no wrong. They never run off spewing & spreading rumors.
Didn’t you get the memo?

*Thanks for your post, Rowdy


47 posted on 08/29/2011 7:53:16 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: dragnet2
Suspicion turns to facts in the political blink of an eye!

The "fact" is that the things said about the curriculum in the posted article are lies.

The "suspect" is that this was the reason the article was taken down.

Reading skills are useful. I encourage you to develop some.

48 posted on 08/29/2011 7:53:23 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Grunthor

You know, that was simply uncalled for. I’ve seen this kind of stuff (regarded as “truther” by one side or the other) posted on threads about both Palin and Perry. I read threads about both because while my first choice is Palin, I think Rick Perry is worth a look. Facts can be twisted and that may be the case here (just like the facts behind Palin’s resignation usually are). But I bet it’s possible to point them out without insults. People who haven’t made up their mind (or will have to choose a different candidate because theirs has to drop out) read these threads and would probably prefer facts to name calling.

You are free to promote your candidate just as others are free to promote Bachmann, Cain, Palin, etc. But these are people who you agree with (probably most 100%) on issues important to ALL conservatives. Yet you somehow think it’s appropriate to call them “not bright” or “imaginative”. Things like “Palin/Perry Derangement Syndrome” are to be expected and there’s nothing wrong with that kind of ribbing. If you believe you’re so much better than them because of the candidate you support why not set a good example and act as if you are.

Cindie


49 posted on 08/29/2011 8:02:34 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I suspect it was taken down basically because it’s found out it was a lie. The "fact" is that the things said about the curriculum in the posted article are lies. The "suspect" is that this was the reason the article was taken down.

I see, it was suspected it was taken down due to lies, and the article is a lie and that's a fact.. That's the end of that...

lol Your spin is speeding up the rotation of the planet, please stop before we all fly off.

50 posted on 08/29/2011 8:04:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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