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The AGW of the 1980's...........They banned CFCs but the hole is still there...........trillions of dollars wasted for no apparent reason other than some idiots believed in it..............
1 posted on 08/30/2011 6:46:21 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Those folks need to do a bit more reading out of the lab. NASA proved conclusively that the ozone hole is coupled to sunspot activity.


2 posted on 08/30/2011 6:49:24 AM PDT by GingisK
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Karry Mullis, the biochemist who invented DNA replication has some interesting things to say about man’s effect on ozone. It’s a total crock.


4 posted on 08/30/2011 6:51:46 AM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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But just think of all the stimulus that your tax donations performed. All of those scientists that got grants fed their families, invested in the stock market, went on vacations, bought new electric cars, donated to the DNC, called that lawyer at 1-800-MESOTHELOMIA and got compensated for their exposure to asbestos in their labs, etc..... You were their lifeline.


5 posted on 08/30/2011 6:54:39 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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::They banned CFCs but the hole is still there ::

It’s always been there, it is a dynamic of the atmosphere and the temperature. “Climate Scientists” have never proven the existence of an intact ozone layer (’cuz they can’t).


7 posted on 08/30/2011 6:56:56 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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So when can I have my R-12 back? F’in communists.....
8 posted on 08/30/2011 6:57:04 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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No kidding, it is a travesty. I asked a anti-CFC crusdaer once what the mechanism was that caused the CFC’s to travel from North America to the South Pole. No answer. The link between CFC’s and the ozone hole is tenuous at best.
9 posted on 08/30/2011 6:57:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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AGW is not far behind. AGW scam will be 25 years old in 2013!


10 posted on 08/30/2011 7:01:57 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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my theory is that the ozone hole is actually like a chimney, opening up to allow toxins??? to be released from the atmosphere, and closing up when the air is correct...


12 posted on 08/30/2011 7:04:52 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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“and it’s amazing that we still have much to learn, even after studying ozone for so long” this is just code for “after ALL of these years and after all of this MONEY we are still clueless”!


13 posted on 08/30/2011 7:05:32 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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proposed ideas to "geoengineer" the Earth's climate


That prospect is more frightening than natural global climate changes.

"It looked good on paper, but ... "

Libs and Leftist come up with ideas, but they never look far enough in the future so foresee the unintended consequences.
16 posted on 08/30/2011 7:07:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Imagine if the first scientists who encountered the Grand Canyon declared that the erosion was being caused by changing weather patterns created by irresponsible farming practices in the Midwest.


17 posted on 08/30/2011 7:11:59 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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Bunch of Idiots,we had to change to a more expensive but less efficient gas,because of some slobbering enviro Pinheads who got it wrong,Plus a worthless Government that is filled with the same.


20 posted on 08/30/2011 7:24:52 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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I don’t care if there is a hole or if there isn’t a hole.

There isn’t one damn thing the US government is gonna do about it aside from tax and spend, so who cares?

If it’s there, great!

If it’s not there, great!


21 posted on 08/30/2011 7:28:06 AM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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Where does ozone come from?

It is made when radiation strikes water and releases the ozone molecule into the atmosphere.

So....in the short periods when there is a “hole”, more radiation comes through the atmosphere AND CREATES MORE OZONE!!!!

It’s a self healing process and cycle.
Man is incapable of spoiling it.
Just another enviro-hoax.


23 posted on 08/30/2011 7:34:37 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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"On the thousand-year timescale, carbon dioxide is by far the most important greenhouse gas produced by humans, but there are some other interesting — though much less abundant — gases such as perfluorinated compounds that also last thousands of years and similarly affect our climate for millennia," said Solomon.
 
Maybe carbon dioxide is "the most important...", but what does that have to do with whether carbon dioxide has any significant effect on global climate?  I wonder how Solomon would explain the facts shown in the paper found at geocraft.com?
 
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

25 posted on 08/30/2011 8:01:08 AM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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In a Kavli Foundation Innovations in Chemistry Lecture, Susan Solomon, Ph.D., of the University of Colorado, Boulder, said that the combined efforts of scientists, the public, industry and policy makers to stop ozone depletion is one of science's greatest success stories, but unanswered questions remain. And ozone is still disappearing.

Unfortunately for us, Susan Soloman is a bit of a biased "scientist" who does not listen to anyone with a contrary question. There may be a correlation between global cooling and the size of the ozone hole. Okay, not necessarily global cooling, but unusually cold winter temperatures in the upper atmosphere.

Furthermore, the predicted sizes of the ozone hole may not correlate with the reduction of CFCs in the upper atmosphere. Upper atmospheric chemistry is complex with many assumptions and limited data, with its attendant limited methodology and results.

28 posted on 08/30/2011 8:13:09 AM PDT by olezip
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CFCs are to heavy to reach the stratosphere, ask some one with an “Earth science degree” about CFCs or FREON 12 rising instead of falling and they will burst into laughter.

Here is a hint. Both are much heaver than O2 or nitrogen or CO2, and as a result they fall to the ground.


31 posted on 08/30/2011 8:51:30 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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