Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Netflix to lose Starz, its most valuable source of new movies
Los Angeles Times ^ | 9/1/2011 | Ben Fritz

Posted on 09/01/2011 7:56:51 PM PDT by MrShoop

Premium cable network Starz Entertainment will end its deal to provide movies to Netflix, a surprise decision that will deprive the popular online video service of its most valuable source of recently released movies.

Analysts had said that if Starz were to renew its agreement, which expires in February 2012, it could have been worth as much as $300 million to John Malone's Liberty Media-owned network.

However, executives at Starz apparently concluded that they would lose even more money by giving consumers a reason to subscribe to Netflix instead of the cable channel.

"This decision is a result of our strategy to protect the premium nature of our brand by preserving the appropriate pricing and packaging of our exclusive and highly valuable content," Starz said in a statement Thursday. "With our current studio rights and growing original programming presence, the network is in an excellent position to evaluate new opportunities and expand its overall business."

Starz, which controls pay-cable rights to movies from Walt Disney Studios and Sony Pictures, signed its current agreement with Netflix in 2008. At that time, online video was watched by only a small number of tech-savvy young people and the estimated $30 million per year the cable network received was seen as new revenue that would have little impact on its traditional television business.

[...]

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cable; internet; netflix; starz
Big media/cable oligopoly strikes back.
1 posted on 09/01/2011 7:56:58 PM PDT by MrShoop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

the best deal for the money is to by a basic cable package + hbo + steaming netflix

You get just about everything you could want with that combo for very little money.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 8:00:09 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

Starz sucks. They are headquartered here in Denver and are known as a really bad place to work.


3 posted on 09/01/2011 8:00:50 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

I wonder if Netflix is going to back down their rates again since they will not have the content that they did prior. Probably not.


4 posted on 09/01/2011 8:01:25 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

When Netflix nearly doubled my rates, I was outta there.

Cancelled my subscription yesterday as did millions of others.


5 posted on 09/01/2011 8:03:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

Ooh! Bad karma!.....


6 posted on 09/01/2011 8:04:56 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009

Better deal is cancel cable, buy a $399 computer with hdmi output, and watch everything free via the internet.


7 posted on 09/01/2011 8:04:59 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009

Steaming Netflix?.........they do XXX?....


8 posted on 09/01/2011 8:05:58 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: icwhatudo

which service do you recommend?


9 posted on 09/01/2011 8:06:27 PM PDT by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

We cancelled our DVD part of the deal and just went with streaming. The selection is not really that good anymore, and with Starz going away there will be no reason to continue with Netflix; we’ll have to cancel.


10 posted on 09/01/2011 8:06:35 PM PDT by bubbacluck (Proud Hobbit with no intention of going back to Middle Earth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: icwhatudo

Yup.

I download every show via bit torrent so why would I fork over my dough for liberal crap channels like HBO and give em’ a ratings point? When Spartacus aired on Starz, I never watched them live but waited 24 hours til eztv uploaded them on the web.


11 posted on 09/01/2011 8:09:41 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009; liege; Lazlo in PA

I don’t think it is a coincidence Starz makes this announcement the day the Netflix price hikes take effect. It is a low blow - cable companies hate the competition from the internet.


12 posted on 09/01/2011 8:10:28 PM PDT by MrShoop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop
Netflix stock (NFLX) dropped 10 % after this announcement, in after hours trading. Major hit.
13 posted on 09/01/2011 8:13:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

Ska-rew cable!

I wonder why you can’t just subscribe to the various channels streamed online?


14 posted on 09/01/2011 8:14:59 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER

I won’t go back to cable or sat. They fund the opposite agenda that I believe should be funded. I will not take something I will never watch because it is offensive to my beliefs. Though luck Starz you lost this customer.


15 posted on 09/01/2011 8:20:33 PM PDT by jimpick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Lazlo in PA

Yea probably not. If Netflix had seen this Starz loss coming they probably wouldn’t have changed rates. Well at least not changed things the way they did. I waited till the 31st then dropped the streaming portion. I rarely used it anyway.


16 posted on 09/01/2011 8:22:37 PM PDT by Graneros ("It is no exaggeration to say that the undecided could go one way or another.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: bigbob

Check your mail.


17 posted on 09/01/2011 8:30:34 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: max americana

check your mail :)


18 posted on 09/01/2011 8:34:42 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: max americana

You naughty boy...


19 posted on 09/01/2011 8:44:59 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

For all their annoying pop ups that somehow get through most pop up blockers, I won’t shed a tear if Netflix losses money or goes out of buisness


20 posted on 09/01/2011 8:49:10 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: max americana

Well, I think advocating theft is a pretty liberal idea too...


21 posted on 09/01/2011 8:51:14 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009

HBO is a wasteland for six month of the year. I will resubscribe when Boardwalk Empire starts it’s new season .


22 posted on 09/01/2011 8:51:52 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: chae

sigh, here comes another one....how can it be theft oh righteous one?


23 posted on 09/01/2011 8:55:06 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003
We'll have to see how many cancelled. A lot of noise but I just don't folks leaving en-masse for where?

The Starz no-deal simply says they were too greedy. Now they get nothing. Do they think they'll find someone who'll pay more than Netflix would for their re-syndication rights? Doubtful. I never heard of Starz before they showed up on Netflix and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Netflix is big enough now that they can deal with Disney and other studios direct rather than through some middleman licensee. The same is true for any deep-pocketed competition (e.g., Apple, Amazon). So the real loser here is Starz.

What third-tier players need to understand is that folks are not going back to $100+/month digital cable TV "bundles", certainly not in this economy.

Meanwhile, International expansion is the next frontier. In a couple of months when we learn that (a) the feared subscriber drop-off didn't happen and (b) Netflix is now rolling out its previously announced expansion into Latin America and South America, nobody is going to care much about Starz. It's even possible that Starz may quietly come back to the table with more reasonable demands once they realize this too.

24 posted on 09/01/2011 8:57:23 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: AustinBill

I agree... time will tell.


25 posted on 09/01/2011 9:06:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: liege

Well, I hope really good movies like Tokyo Gore Police aren’t part of the Starz package, because you just don’t get to see movies like that every day.


26 posted on 09/01/2011 9:12:03 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

I just went through every movie offering re Starz. “I spit on your corpse” and a lot of Perry Mason offerings. Netflix has a lot of good offerings, especially the classics. I’ll wait and see.


27 posted on 09/01/2011 9:13:24 PM PDT by LouAvul
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul

My favorites on Netflix are the British shows. Hopefully they will work on getting more quality television series.


28 posted on 09/01/2011 9:15:38 PM PDT by CajunConservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: CajunConservative

I also get HuluPlus and it has a ton of TV shows like even from the olden days when TV was first invented. Plus, you can just watch one after the other. And it has this classic movie thinie called Criterion with 800 movies some of them pretty weird like Rasharon or whatever where there are different stories going on at once.


29 posted on 09/01/2011 9:18:22 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: max americana

Well, it appears to me that you are watching things off of a pay channel and not paying for it, unless you are paying Starz for it.


30 posted on 09/01/2011 9:23:47 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: chae

Every show from Spartacus to Camelot are broadcast in the UK under non-paying channels, and just like Game of Thrones, not produced by one entity but multiple UK outfits meaning broadcasts are under multiple platforms not specifically with Starz.

Anything else? Keep it up. I’m not even going to explain why FR posts articles but that would be...too...easy.


31 posted on 09/01/2011 9:31:14 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: MrShoop

Nice! Couldn’t have happened to a more consumer friendly company! /s


32 posted on 09/01/2011 9:35:54 PM PDT by rawhide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: max americana

Now see, I was unaware of that. I withdraw my objection.


33 posted on 09/01/2011 9:54:43 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Squeeky

I bought 2 Roku XD boxes so I could get the other channels and the damn thing would not work with my routers. I had a Linksys 4000 and had to get Netgear after upgrading my DSL.

I need to get another streaming device because I have Amazon Prime which I watch on my Xoom. Amazon Prime has almost the same offerings as Netflix but it’s not easy to find stuff.

This really sucks. I guess everyone wants their piece of the pie and are missing the opportunity to fine tune a great service that allows people to watch what they want when they want.


34 posted on 09/01/2011 9:58:25 PM PDT by CajunConservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: icwhatudo
Well gee that would be cancel cable, buy a $399 computer with hdmi output, and watch everything somebody else should pay for via the internet
35 posted on 09/01/2011 10:00:12 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: CajunConservative

I agree. This will all change because it is too good. You can watch a TV show without commercials and sooner or later the money people will have to try to skin a few more pennies off everybody. I look for youtube to start having more problems too.


36 posted on 09/01/2011 10:04:58 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: chae

No biggie. If there was a questionable post on FR, I would ask the poster as well.


37 posted on 09/01/2011 10:06:44 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: qam1

Your popup blocker sucks then. Try adding Easylist + EasyPrivacy + Malware Domains and you’ll likely never see an ad again, unless you go to obscure hobbyist sites that tend to have tightly related niche ads.


38 posted on 09/02/2011 12:35:07 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Squeeky

W/huluplus, do you have to watch the commercials like on hulu free? Also, how much is huluplus and how do you pay?


39 posted on 09/02/2011 6:26:13 AM PDT by LouAvul
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: icwhatudo

could you please freepmail me that also? thanks.


40 posted on 09/02/2011 6:57:37 AM PDT by LivingNet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul

Yes, you see commercials. It is $7.99 per month. But, I like it. It is not as good as Netflix on movies, but it does have the Criterion Collection of 800 classic movies.


41 posted on 09/02/2011 7:16:47 AM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson