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1 posted on 09/03/2011 7:05:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society. The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself.”

— Daniel Patrick Moynihan


2 posted on 09/03/2011 7:10:34 AM PDT by yetidog
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The Neal Boortz libertarians are crowing about the importance of focusing solely on economics and the dangers of raising social issues in the upcoming election year. It’s not hard to see why. Even among self-styled conservatives, the social issues hit way too close to home. Just bring up the topic of pornography on this site, and the roaches come out of the woodwork to defend their cherished freedom to masturbate to whatever turns them on. But Steyn is precisely right: a culture in decline will keep on declining, no matter how sensible the economic policies its leaders manage to put down on paper.


4 posted on 09/03/2011 7:14:42 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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Why does it take foreigners like Tocqueville and Steyn to remind us what America is all about? It’s very discouraging when you see Canadians across the border in some ways becoming more conservative and America wanting to become more to like Europe.

Heck, even Cuba started cutting government spending.


5 posted on 09/03/2011 7:17:19 AM PDT by 3Fingas ( Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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Truth! and good thoughts.


7 posted on 09/03/2011 7:19:04 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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Well done, Mr. Steyn.


10 posted on 09/03/2011 7:24:26 AM PDT by Desdemona ( If trusting the men in the clergy was a requirement for Faith, there would be no one in the pews.)
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This will all be 'recokened with' in the coming Great Reckoning.

Just prepare now for the violence and shortages on the horizon.

Twenty years ago people were complaining about kids killing for a pair of 'cool' tennis shoes or an athletic jacket...think about what these same people will do when they're hungry and there are no Big Macs to be had.

12 posted on 09/03/2011 7:29:37 AM PDT by blam
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Any society eventually winds up with the finances you’d expect.

I believe Lincoln said something like "You are born with the face that God gave you, at 45 you have the face that you deserve."

We could paraphrase that to "You start with the society that your ancestors gave you. You end up with the society that you deserve."

16 posted on 09/03/2011 7:39:49 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Santelli is the real leader of the tea party.)
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Steyn pyng.


18 posted on 09/03/2011 7:44:54 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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The truly scary thing about a walk through the Wal-Mart parking lot are not the blinding glimpses of the obvious physical and probably mental decline of Americans themselves.

It is the sinking realization that no democracy has lasted very long. Even well run Republics go into decline, and eventually are replaced. So far, we haven't yet lasted as long as the Venetian Republic!

So, the real questions are, "What's next?" Perhaps more important, "When and how?"

19 posted on 09/03/2011 7:45:42 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (America. Too late to fix. Too early to start the shooting.)
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"A Tale of Three Declines: Even if the economy were to fix itself, we'd still face cultural challenges

The Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire, the UK and now the USA - all brought about by moral decline within. We can argue about how long the Romans took, but the UK decline was caused by the British Labour Party on the left over 13 years, and the boy king barry has almost accomplished it for the USA in two and a half years. Isn't progress wonderful?

28 posted on 09/03/2011 8:03:52 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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grade-schoolers in the latest “prostitot” fashions

Never heard that term before - will use it from here out. As others have mentioned, just look at what's on display in the malls.

29 posted on 09/03/2011 8:21:52 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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...recent visit to a north Virginia mall — zombie teens...

We went to a high school football game last night. Haven't been to one in many years.

What a bunch of kids. Girls walking hand in hand, rump rangers, girls that had to be no older than 13-15 dressed in the minimum shorts.

Quite an education.

35 posted on 09/03/2011 9:39:40 AM PDT by Vinnie
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Somehow there is a disconnect. Mark Steyn and Ingrahram complaining about the culture.

Yet....Ingraham hangs up on anyone calling in about Obama’s non-natural born status, and Steyn calls Article II, Section I, of the **Constitution**, a “technicality” . (We can't have rioting over a mere “technicality, you see.)

Culture?, morality?, truth? forgery? identity theft? social security fraud? I guess that doesn't count as “culture” ....When it really mattered Steyn and Ingraham were DOA ( Dead on Arrival)

37 posted on 09/03/2011 10:19:36 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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