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Historian Won't Let Scotland's Most Famous Dog Lie
WSJ ^ | 9-4-11 | James Hookway

Posted on 09/04/2011 3:23:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

EDINBURGH, Scotland—To millions of people around the world, he's the loyal dog who kept a lonely vigil at his master's graveside.

Greyfriars Bobby, a Skye terrier, supposedly spent 14 years pining by the grave of his owner, a local known as Auld Jock who died in 1858. The tale of devotion has beguiled generations of visitors to Scotland's capital and inspired dozens of children's books and a 1961 Disney film, "Greyfriars Bobby: The True Story of a Dog."

Greyfriars Bobby .But to Swedish historian Jan Bondeson, the 150-year-old legend of the dog that stuck it out through snow, hail and freezing temperatures is nothing more than a shaggy dog story cooked up to lure tourists to Edinburgh's rain-soaked Greyfriars cemetery—and some locals and dog lovers are howling.

Dr. Bondeson, a 48-year-old consultant rheumatologist at Cardiff University in Wales, visited Edinburgh several times to study the matter for a new book and now proclaims that Bobby was just a stray trained to hang out in the cemetery.

In his retelling of the tale, Dr. Bondeson argues that a pair of canny Edinburgh men concocted the Greyfriars Bobby story to stir up trade at a... (see link)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: doggieping; dogs; greyfriarsbobby; loyalty; scotland; scotlandyet
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Bloody Vikings have to throw a wet blanket on everything!

Greyfriars Bobby

1 posted on 09/04/2011 3:23:59 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Joe 6-pack

Doggie ping


2 posted on 09/04/2011 3:24:45 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It’s only because Reindeer wouldn’t stay by a
Vikings grave.


3 posted on 09/04/2011 3:27:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

4 posted on 09/04/2011 3:28:14 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Oh come on, there are some myths we should just leave alone.

:p


5 posted on 09/04/2011 3:30:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t know if this fits, but its kind of interesting


6 posted on 09/04/2011 3:31:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There other documented stories of dogs showing incredible loyalty to their masters, so there’s no reason this can’t be true.


7 posted on 09/04/2011 3:32:23 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Indeed. And 16 years is not unusual for a terrier-type dog. Or a poodle, for that matter.


8 posted on 09/04/2011 3:34:59 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am still going to believe the myth. Why? A somewhat similar thing happened when my parents were still kids (a small Pennsylvania town). Man in the town saved a puppy from the Creek (pronounced Crik). That was done at the time with stray puppies and kitten. People would tie them up in a bag and throw them in that body of water. Anyways, man rescues puppy. Dog grows up and is constantly with his master. The man dies and the dog refuses to leave the graveyard. Back in those days, people were commonly “waked” in their homes. Then people would follow, on foot.. to the cemetery. From what was told to me, the dog was brought back to the family home several times. However, in the morning, he returned to the cemetery. They find the dog, deceased.. by the master’s grave.

Could the dog died due to old age? Sure. Could he have already been sick and died of disease? Sure. However, I choose to believe he died to be with his master.


9 posted on 09/04/2011 3:38:25 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I have been to this cemetery and somewhere I have a picture of me standing beside the statue of the dog. It has been about 50 years ago so even if I find the picture you wouldn't believe it was me. ;D
10 posted on 09/04/2011 3:40:13 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: afraidfortherepublic

i prefer the legend.


11 posted on 09/04/2011 3:43:42 PM PDT by 1st Division guy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well, it could be that it’s a colossal untruth.

Sometimes simply repeating a story enough times makes people think it’s true. Especially with no 1st-hand experience.


12 posted on 09/04/2011 3:48:00 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: momtothree
Seaman, the Newfoundland dog that accompanied the Lewis and Clark expedition to the Pacific Coast and back is said to have stayed with Lewis after his untimely end. (It is still a question whether Lewis committed suice, or was killed in a bar fight.) The following is a quote from a dog collar displayed in Virginia:
Seaman's collar in an Alexandria museum in 1814- proof that he survived the expedition! But the entry gets better. Alden includes a note about the collar and its owner. It reads:
The foregoing was copied from the collar, in the Alexandria Museum, which the late gov. Lewis's dog wore after his return from the western coast of America. The fidelity and attachment of this animal were remarkable. After the melancholy exit of gov. Lewis, his dog would not depart for a moment from his lifeless remains; and when they were deposited in the earth no gentle means could draw him from the spot of interment. He refused to take every kind of food, which was offered him, and actually pined away and died with grief upon his master's grave!


13 posted on 09/04/2011 3:52:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is one of those situations where even if it is not true, it serves no good purpose to rake the grave open and try and debunk the legend.


14 posted on 09/04/2011 3:58:00 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What a beautiful tribute to Seaman. It does happen. It may not happen every single day and with one specific type of breed but it does happen. (the dog from my Pennsylvania story was a mixed mutt that had some bird dog in him).


15 posted on 09/04/2011 3:58:22 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There is a statue of Lewis and Clark in the turnaround at the beach in Seaside, Oregon. They are gazing out over the Pacific Ocean. Standing with them is Seaman.


16 posted on 09/04/2011 3:59:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yes. It could be an untruth. Or, it could be an embellished half-truth. BUT, if a cadaver dog (like one I saw on TV last week) could alert on a 30 year old burial site (when the body had been moved), why coudn’t a loyal dog identify where his master’s remains were buried?

There was a blue heeler reported a couple of years ago who tracked his mistress’ movement to a nursing home. He escaped from the daughter’s yard (scaled a 6 ft. fence) and made it to the nursing home and sat under his mistress’ window and barked.

The dog had never been to the nursing home. The dog had never been with his mistress when she was taken to the nursing home. He made his way from a 3rd location. It took him a couple of days, but he made it. The nursing home people were so impressed that they allowed him to stay.

This story was reorted in a TV program narrated by Alan Thicke a few years ago called “Animal Miracles”.


17 posted on 09/04/2011 4:01:09 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Funeral of a Navy Seal in Iowa last week. Tears hundreds of people up who saw the photo inluding yours truly.

18 posted on 09/04/2011 4:04:35 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: momtothree

I have several books on Greyfriars Bobby. He did indeed lie on his master’s grave in the daytime and sleep with neighbors at night. He was given one meal a day by the next door pub. The only “myth” is that Bobby was a total sweetheart. In fact, he was a scrappy little terrier who kept the graveyard free of cats and rats.

Both of my books are well-sourced and full of pictures of Bobby being held by his adopted folks. Some people just have to destroy everything we hold dear.

Emily Bronte’s dog, Keeper, also followed her to her grave and pined for her mistress. No at all unusual.


19 posted on 09/04/2011 4:16:17 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
'Edinburgh men concocted the Greyfriars Bobby story to stir up trade'

Kinda like Loch Ness.

20 posted on 09/04/2011 4:25:42 PM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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