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Deja Vu All Over Again: Total US Debt Passes Debt Ceiling... In Under One Month Since Extension
Zero Hedge ^ | 09/02/11 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 09/04/2011 7:00:29 PM PDT by RobertClark

Remember when one month ago the US, to much pomp and circumstance, not to mention one downgrade, announced a grand bargain raising the debt ceiling from $14.294 trillion to something much higher, with a stop gap intermediate ceiling of $14.694 trillion, or $400 billion more. Well, as of today, or less than a month since the expansion, total US debt is at $14.697 trillion. Yep - the total debt is again over the ceiling, which means the US debt increased by $400 billion in one month. Score one for fiscal prudence. And while the total debt subject to the limit is still slightly less, at $14.652, one week of Treasury auctions and will be time for Moody's to justify again why the US is a quadruple A credit.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; debtceiling; federaldeficit; federalspending
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When was that whole fiscal prudence thing going to begin again?!?
1 posted on 09/04/2011 7:00:36 PM PDT by RobertClark
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2 posted on 09/04/2011 7:04:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Your cash ain’t nothin’ but trash ping.

Thanks RobertClark.


3 posted on 09/04/2011 7:06:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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RobertClark wrote:
When was that whole fiscal prudence thing going to begin again?!?
I think it's when every incumbent is sent home permanently.

Republicans in control of both houses plus President = $4 Trillion in new debt.

Dems in control of both houses, with either Republican Pres or Democrat Pres = $4 Trillion+ new debt.

We need some other choices.

4 posted on 09/04/2011 7:08:38 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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Good thing I print my own money or I would be worried about this Obama character !


5 posted on 09/04/2011 7:12:27 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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Spending your way out of debt is like trying to fornicate ones way out of hiv


6 posted on 09/04/2011 7:14:59 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: Delta 21
Good thing I print my own money or I would be worried about this Obama character !

I'll take "Things overheard in a conversation between Bernanke and Geitner" For $200 Alex.

7 posted on 09/04/2011 7:15:31 PM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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Seriously ! I know that the nerdy geek types in the government have computers with awesome calculators on them.

U.S. National Debt Clock

The light at the end of the tunnel is not the morning sunshine.

8 posted on 09/04/2011 7:22:09 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Delta 21

The light at the end of the tunnel is not an illusion, the tunnel is.


9 posted on 09/04/2011 7:24:54 PM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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To: RobertClark

The margin to the debt limit is the difference between the last two lines on the table illustrated. You are posting part of the official Department of Treasury report, second page where Table III comes from. The first number highlighted is interesting, but not the one used for the “statutory debt limit” — a calculation set in law/regulations (either of which takes an Act of Congress to change, or public notice for regulation changes).


10 posted on 09/04/2011 7:29:58 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: RobertClark

“Geithner, this is Bernanke. Get those printing pressing rolling...Pronto!”


11 posted on 09/04/2011 7:30:42 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: sefarkas
The margin to the debt limit is the difference between the last two lines on the table illustrated. You are posting part of the official Department of Treasury report, second page where Table III comes from. The first number highlighted is interesting, but not the one used for the “statutory debt limit” — a calculation set in law/regulations (either of which takes an Act of Congress to change, or public notice for regulation changes).

I am very well aware of that fact. That is why the title accurately states: "total" U.S. debt. The ridiculous point is in allowing debt that does not count as "debt". That is like creating a law that states your home mortgage cannot be counted as part of your debt to income ratio. The absurdity lies in Congress' attempt to define debt as being something other than total indebtedness.

12 posted on 09/04/2011 7:34:10 PM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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I don’t know if we can expect anarchy or widespread civil disorder, but genuine crunch time is approaching, and the speed and force with which it is coming is increasing daily.

Anyone in this country that isn’t really *scared* is deluded. And that means we have a lot of deluded people out there.

I just got across the board property tax rate increases from the county, the school board, the library board and the city. As well as a near doubling of the city income tax we also get hit with.

Our new mayor wanted even higher tax rates in order TO GIVE RAISES TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. You know, the people that ought to be simply damn grateful to have a job? And these increased taxes are being confiscated from people that can’t afford to live now.

Property taxes are pure despotism. The ultimate crippling of the right to own property in this country.


13 posted on 09/04/2011 7:35:28 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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Taking expenditures “off the books” is their clever way of fixing the numbers. Fannie & Freddie for example.

The real debt is considerably worse than most people, especially our “representatives” have any idea. Totally clueless.


14 posted on 09/04/2011 7:38:18 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: al baby

“like trying to fornicate ones way out of hiv”

Hey, thruth is stranger than fiction..... nobama’s countrymen in Africa think just that, if they bang a very young virgin, it’ll cure em. What a gene pool!!


15 posted on 09/04/2011 7:42:05 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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16 posted on 09/04/2011 7:45:03 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Taking expenditures “off the books” is their clever way of fixing the numbers. Fannie & Freddie for example.

The real debt is considerably worse than most people, especially our “representatives” have any idea. Totally clueless.

You are correct. I wonder how many of our elected idiots have the capability to accurately understand the level of our debt alongside the unfunded obligations that are not counted. Sometimes I wonder if they are really kicking the can down the road, or are they really just too ignorant to comprehend the larger picture. Either way, it's pretty darn frightening.

17 posted on 09/04/2011 7:46:53 PM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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To: dusttoyou
Hey, thruth is stranger than fiction..... nobama’s countrymen in Africa think just that, if they bang a very young virgin, it’ll cure em.

Hey, Tax Cheat Timmy was caught claiming the he had a "magic" device called a printing press, so we would never run out of money. That's just as deluded.

Too bad I didn't save the source of that info. I'd send it weekly to my liberal zombie acquaintances.

18 posted on 09/04/2011 8:02:21 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: cc2k
I agree with you. It is time; no perhaps past time to send them all packing and start from scratch. But of course that won't happen. The two corrupt political gangs have a death strangle hold on The Republic, and almost to the man/woman could care less about "we the people" and our Constitution.

Unfortunately, there are but a handful of us who have seen this coming and the majority of the people not only don't have a clue, could care less.

19 posted on 09/04/2011 8:31:47 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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Thanks for posting and thanks to all posters here. Thanks to Tyler Durden and the terrific posters at zerohedge.

DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.


20 posted on 09/04/2011 8:53:26 PM PDT by PGalt
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