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Coming soon: The IRS will do your taxes for you
The Daily Caller ^ | September 6, 2011 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 09/07/2011 5:54:25 AM PDT by markomalley

Imagine this scenario: The IRS may soon just do your taxes for you — and send you the bill.

If this sounds farfetched, it’s not.

With a new congressional “super committee” tasked with finding $1.5 trillion in cuts by November, creative ways to find additional revenue are in high demand. And allowing the IRS to prepare you taxes could be one solution.

The idea has been around for a while, but has been picking up steam in recent years. In 2006, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) argued it would close a $345 billion annual difference between what the government believes taxpayers owe them and what the IRS actually collects, which he calls the “tax gap.”

“I think the solution [to the tax gap problem] is to get rid of the middle-man and no fees required,” he said.

Obama’s former Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers Austan Goolsbee made a strong case for it in a 2006 New York Times op-ed, explaining, “… the revenue service could send you a tax form already filled out with the information it has for you — a Simple Return — rather than a blank tax form. You would simply check the numbers against your W-2 and 1099 and then sign it.”

But this isn’t just an idea floated by senators and presidential advisers. While running for president, then-Sen. Barack Obama touted it during a 2007 speech at the Tax Policy Institute: “The government already collects wage and bank account information,” he said, “so there’s no reason the IRS can’t send Americans pre-filled tax forms to verify.”

While the notion of allowing government to encroach on yet another aspect of our lives might sound like a hard sell, members of the Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA) believe this is a very real threat.

“There is a fundamental conflict of interest if the tax collectors also become the tax preparer,” said CCIA President and CEO Ed Black. “If you don’t trust the fox to guard your hen house, why trust the IRS to do your taxes. It’s the same exact thing. They make it sound so convenient, but it’s really just a convenient way to kiss your deductions and tax credits goodbye.”

Black is among the increasing number of voices who worry the “super committee” might see this as a quick way to raise taxes by  $345 billion per year – the amount of the “tax gap” – without a single member of Congress ever having to vote for a tax increase.

“Most members of Congress, especially the Republicans, do not want to vote for a tax increase,” Black said. “But if the super committee calls having the IRS do people’s taxes an ‘accounting change’ or a ‘convenience to the taxpayer,’ they raise taxes by hundreds of billions of dollars per year and no one even knows about it.”

Advocates argue that allowing the IRS to prepare tax returns is a creative solution that simplifies the tax code, provides convenience to the taxpayer, and helps America balance its budget. As then-Senator Obama said during that same 2007 campaign speech: “Making this change would save Americans more than two billion dollars in tax preparer fees, more than 200 million hours of work, and an incalculable amount of headache and heartburn.”

“This mean’s no more worry. No more wasted time. No more extra expenses for a tax preparer,” he said.

“It’s brilliantly Machiavellian,” says CCIA’s Black.

So how would letting the IRS do your taxes actually close a $345 billion annual “tax gap”?

First, it’s important to note that your accountant or storefront tax prep company like H&R Block or electronic-filing software — whoever helps you do your taxes — all work for you. Sure, they must comply with the law, but it is in their best financial interest to help you pay as little as legally appropriate. If they do this well, you will continue to use them. In a sense, they have an adversarial relationship with the IRS.

But there’s another systemic problem. Goolsbee is correct in noting that the government already knows how much money you earn (via W2 forms and 1099′s). But what they do not necessarily know (unless you assume they know all) is which tax credits and deductions you might be legally entitled to.

“The IRS can do your taxes only if it has all your financial information,” explains Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. “The demands for more information about your economic life will increase.”

For example, if you get married or have a baby, getting a deduction would be contingent on informing the IRS of your change of life status. The same goes for buying or selling a house, caring for a sick relative, giving to charity, or any of the other ‘life events’ that might lower the amount of taxes you owe the government or entitle you to a bigger refund.

“If the IRS does the preparation,” says Club for Growth executive director David Keating, “people will wind up paying too much because the IRS won’t be on the lookout for loopholes that could cut your taxes now, or next year.”

But the fact that citizens would likely pay too much is a feature, not a bug.

In March, Congressman Jim Cooper (D-TN-05) introduced the Simple Return Act (H.R. 1069). The congressman’s press release called it, “a bill that would get the IRS to do your taxes for you.” He also noted that the Simple Return would allow the IRS to fill out a basic tax return for every American with the financial information it already receives from each taxpayer’s employer and financial institution: W-2 and 1099.

Cooper estimated that 40 million Americans would be eligible for the service, but some suspect this would just be the beginning. To combat the push, Rep. Sam Johnson (R-Tex.) has authored H.R. 2528, the Taxpayer Freedom Protection Act, “to rescind the authority of the Secretary of the Treasury to develop a return-free tax system.”

It is unclear whether or not the “super committee” will actually propose this “solution,” but anti-tax activists, as well as those who represent the interests of tax preparers, are taking it seriously. Still, for something that has been openly discussed by everyone from Barack Obama to senators and congressmen, the idea is receiving remarkably little press coverage.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 1984; corruption; democrats; donttreadonme; eyeofsauron; fraud; govtabuse; irs; obama; orwell; orwellian; orwellwasanoptimist; panopticon; return; tax; taxcheatparty; taxes; tyranny
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To: markomalley

The way the gov counts you will never see a dime of your money.


41 posted on 09/07/2011 8:59:25 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: rabscuttle385

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42 posted on 09/07/2011 9:07:56 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ozark hilljilly

The accounting workers of the USA won’t be happy about this.

It takes years to become an accomplished CPA or Tax Preparer.

Whill there be a special bailout for them???


43 posted on 09/07/2011 10:00:48 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: markomalley

About 47% of “taxpayers” won’t give a damn.


44 posted on 09/07/2011 10:22:51 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: markomalley
The IRS will do MY TAXES, 'After they pry my Delete Key from my cold dead hands.'

I do a 'simplified' Tax Return. First I determine what my refund should be, then work backwards.

:-)

45 posted on 09/07/2011 10:38:58 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out consevatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry..)
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To: ozark hilljilly

You forgot the 3rd line:

Balance due: $________.__

Notice the extra large space for dollars! Just in case...

CA....


46 posted on 09/07/2011 11:03:11 AM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: SanFranDan
Red flags went higher after reading this failure’s name: “Obama’s former Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers Austan Goolsbee made a strong case for it in a 2006”

Any of Odogma's minions should be shunned for the rest of their hopefully short and miserable lives.

47 posted on 09/07/2011 11:21:36 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There will be a change to line one. No longer “how much did you make last year?” it will now be “We think you made XXX last year, Send it in.”


48 posted on 09/07/2011 11:44:52 AM PDT by scannell
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To: CPOSharky
The last time the IRS helped fill out my tax return, they sent me refund I didn't qualify for. One hour, 3 IRS phone jockeys, and 1 stamp later, I sent them the money back. The next week, they returned it. The next month, they asked for it back, with interest.

On another note, I wonder if the $345 billion increase in revenue will be offset by $690 billion in additional faking work pay tax credits.

49 posted on 09/07/2011 6:44:21 PM PDT by RagingBull (Talent does what it can; genius does what it must)
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50 posted on 09/07/2011 8:05:46 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

coming soon: me living in a country where I don’t have to snitch on myself to the government


51 posted on 09/07/2011 8:14:31 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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To: bamahead

Can someone tell me why the “Fed Reserve” wouldn’t just print the debt owed by Americans?

It’s all fiat debt anyway.

They bailed out the banks, corps & ME scumbags like the saudis...why not us?

Its just paper.


52 posted on 09/07/2011 8:20:43 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: markomalley

Washington solutions never seem to involve more freedom and less expense, do they?

How about a simple 1% national sales tax.

Everything else the government wants or ‘needs’ would have to come from voluntary contributions (think telethons).

Imagine how responsive, even subservient, the government would be if citizens could simply withhold funding for programs they don’t want to pay for. Most of our politicians are slimy snake-oil salesmen anyway; becoming pitchmen for their pet projects would be right up their alley.

Also, during bad economic times the government would suffer first and most, not the taxpayers.


53 posted on 09/08/2011 12:48:42 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: CPOSharky

Haven’t some Democrats already advocated that?


54 posted on 09/08/2011 1:32:40 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: markomalley

Don’t need’em....goin Galt....


55 posted on 09/08/2011 1:34:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: CPOSharky

Yep. Have you not heart the proverbial “How much money does a person really need, anyway?”


56 posted on 09/08/2011 3:35:47 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: bamahead; All

I would rather have Don Corleone prepare my taxes than the IRS : )


57 posted on 09/08/2011 6:51:05 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: markomalley

Charlie Rangle, that dem crook from Chicago who cheated on his taxes... we all know the type - lots of dems think taxes don’t apply to them. A program like this might just be one more way for them to cheat - and without having to be ‘responsible’. If corrupt dems are for it, it’s probably a bad idea.


58 posted on 09/08/2011 8:34:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: markomalley

““… the revenue service...”

I just got a chill up my spine.


59 posted on 09/08/2011 12:54:07 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: markomalley

Great! Another job killer. These a-holes will not rest until the US gov. is the ONLY employer left in the free world!
Everyone else has to do with less, but not the G-D bleeping feds! AAAAhhhhhhhh!


60 posted on 09/08/2011 1:01:32 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ((Most leftism can be traced to childhood birthday trauma))
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