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Veteran, 82, Shoots Pair Who Tried to Break in His Home (and faces attempted murder charges)
Boston Channel 5 ^ | September 8, 2011 | Boston Channel 5

Posted on 09/08/2011 9:05:44 AM PDT by jacjmm

BOSTON -- An 82-year-old Korean War veteran who shot and wounded two homeless people who tried to break into his Revere home Wednesday faced charges in court.

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Evelyn O'Neil, 45, and Joseph Ross, 46, tried to break into the Calumet Street home of Charles Dicino, but the pair ran away after Dicino called police, according to the Lynn Daily Item.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bang; massoftwoshits; secondamendment
Good old Massachusetts.
1 posted on 09/08/2011 9:05:49 AM PDT by jacjmm
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To: jacjmm

Kudos to the vet for defending his property against criminal assault.


2 posted on 09/08/2011 9:07:57 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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To: jacjmm

Mr. Dicino, being a Korean War vet, should know that you never ask a boy to do a man’s job. IOW, switch to .45 ACP.


3 posted on 09/08/2011 9:09:27 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger......)
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To: jacjmm

This really, really, really sucks.


4 posted on 09/08/2011 9:10:48 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: jacjmm

82 years should be old enough to know enough to MOVE OUT of Mass. You cannot be a victim unless you die.


5 posted on 09/08/2011 9:11:15 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: jacjmm

This is SO messed up. Why don’t regular folks take back MA? Oh, never mind they all vote for tards.


6 posted on 09/08/2011 9:11:58 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: tgusa


Ross, who was listed in stable condition at Massachusetts General Hospital, suffered a gunshot would to the chest, and O’Neil was shot in the leg.”

There’s your problem right there. Two of ‘em, actually. They both survived. You can get away with that in states like Texas. In liberal bastions, witnesses/perps who can look pathetically helpless in court don’t help your cause.


7 posted on 09/08/2011 9:12:30 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: jacjmm

I’m sure MA will provide the two poor victims of gun violence with a generous welfare package to get them back on their feet over the next few years as they recover from the emotional trauma. As for the bad man with the gun, he’s likely to get life (considering his age).


8 posted on 09/08/2011 9:12:30 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: jacjmm

Im Massachusetts you’re supposed to help them carry your stuff to the pawn shop.


9 posted on 09/08/2011 9:12:37 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: tgusa

This pair has been harassing Mr. Dicino for some time.


10 posted on 09/08/2011 9:12:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: jacjmm

Not good. Inside the house and shooting out of a window? Seems like the perps may not have been on his property. Excessive force? Mass. gun laws too are very restrictive. They’ll be law suits coming out of this too.


11 posted on 09/08/2011 9:14:05 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fight with smear, Conservatives fight with truth. Palin & West team 4 me)
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To: tgusa

He shot them with a rifle. There aren’t a whole lot of rifle rounds with less power than a .45 ACP. I guess it could have been a .22 but they didn’t mention that in the article.


12 posted on 09/08/2011 9:16:03 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: jacjmm
MA law requires citizens subject to home invasion to retreat, and not to use deadly force unless they have no escape route and are being threatened with deadly force.

Think of it as the counter-Texas.

13 posted on 09/08/2011 9:17:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I dont see the problem. They were using a deadly weapon and who knows what would come thru the window next. They were attacking him for heaven sakes. I call it a good shoot to the extent that he defended himself. Like someone else pointed out he did a half job.


14 posted on 09/08/2011 9:19:06 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: wideawake

Where the heck is he going to retreat to? If he leaves his house the bad guys get him. If he stays they burn his house down. It seems a no win situation. It sounds so good on paper but in reality its cosmically stupid. Any sane person would have done the same.


15 posted on 09/08/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: 556x45
Why don’t regular folks take back MA? Oh, never mind they all vote for tards.

I do what I can here in MA, but the state is just hopeless. Most Republicans are beaten down and just won't discuss politics at all (and so they become invisible and it's easy to think that "no one in the state thinks like that"). Meanwhile, the Leftists are shrill and irrational at all times.

My favorite story:
I said to a neighbor, "This unemployment is really something, huh?"
Her response: "You Republicans just hate Obama because he's black."

Oooooooooookay. And I still know people who think we all have economic problems because:
A) Bush spent too much, and
B) Obama hasn't spent enough

So, Republicans (mostly) have given up here. And when we do elect a Republican, it's someone like Mitt Romney or Scott Brown. That's something, I guess, but hardly a big victory.

16 posted on 09/08/2011 9:23:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Myself, I would leave. My life and liberty is too valuable. How far are you from NH?


17 posted on 09/08/2011 9:26:13 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: 556x45

Nix on NH...head south or west.


18 posted on 09/08/2011 9:28:19 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 556x45

The typical argument by MA law enforcement is, I believe, that you should run from your home to a neighbor’s house or to a nearby business or public accomodation and contact the police.


19 posted on 09/08/2011 9:29:21 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Not any more:

M.G.L.CHAPTER 278. TRIALS AND PROCEEDINGS BEFORE JUDGMENT

Chapter 278: Section 8A. Killing or injuring a person unlawfully in a dwelling; defense

Section 8A. In the prosecution of a person who is an occupant of a dwelling charged with killing or injuring one who was unlawfully in said dwelling, it shall be a defense that the occupant was in his dwelling at the time of the offense and that he acted in the reasonable belief that the person unlawfully in said dwelling was about to inflict great bodily injury or death upon said occupant or upon another person lawfully in said dwelling, and that said occupant used reasonable means to defend himself or such other person lawfully in said dwelling. There shall be no duty on said occupant to retreat from such person unlawfully in said dwelling.
IN this case, the fact that they hadn’t yet entered is probably an issue....


20 posted on 09/08/2011 9:29:26 AM PDT by jacjmm
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To: 556x45

Quite close. Leaving is an option, but currently not feasible.


21 posted on 09/08/2011 9:30:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: jacjmm
Thanks for that.

There was a prominent case some years back in MA where a woman who was being stalked killed the stalker when he broke into her home, and she got a stiff prison sentence.

Perhaps the law changed as part of the public outcry against her sentence.

I'll see if I can find the case.

22 posted on 09/08/2011 9:32:17 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

the law is actually otherwise - see above- but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the feeling of police and the AG - can you see an 82 year old veteran trying to “run” to a neighbor’s house to get away from two people half his age? - if this goes to trial, I certainly hope the jury has common sense - but this is Massachusetts.


23 posted on 09/08/2011 9:32:20 AM PDT by jacjmm
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To: jacjmm

I thought Massachusetts bacame a part of the United States after the Revolution, but they appear to still be a part of the UK.


24 posted on 09/08/2011 9:32:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Durus

Guess I should have seen that, BUT bottom line is, this elderly gentleman is to be commended for defending his property and life. It’s just not the happy ending that we’d have wished, i.e. perps exsanguinating thru .45 cal exit wounds.


25 posted on 09/08/2011 9:36:18 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger......)
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To: who knows what evil?

No way. Its a complete myth that the south is gun friendly, same with the west. Ive lived in both places and Id take NH anyday esp now that the legislature has manned up and told the governor to pound sand. Even hippy infested VT would be a good choice relative to the liberal cesspool of MA.


26 posted on 09/08/2011 9:37:52 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: wideawake

I know, you can never jump thru enough hoops to satisfy the JBTs. Yet, they shoot at the least (or no) provocation. I think this guy stands a good chance of going free given a good lawyer. Being arrested is not the same as being convicted. So the cops have their heads up their rear ends, nothing new there. It would be easy to show there was no place for this guy to retreat.


27 posted on 09/08/2011 9:41:19 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Durus
Hmm

Korean war vet?

Shot some kids with a rifle....

Does he drive a Grand Torino?

I know how THAT movie ends...

28 posted on 09/08/2011 9:42:45 AM PDT by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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To: jacjmm

As a resident of this filthy place I volunteer to be a juror. As far as I’m concerned the 82 year old deserves a medal not a jail sentence. Also he should be given a brand new M&P 45acp for his troubles.


29 posted on 09/08/2011 9:43:03 AM PDT by RIGHTWING WACKO FROM MASS. (Better to have and not need than to need and not have...my theory on gun control)
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To: wideawake

You’re right - it was the law at one time based upon that Mass court decision - but thankfully, the Mass legislature had a moment of sanity (emphasis on “moment” :))and passed the law I cited after that case.


30 posted on 09/08/2011 9:43:03 AM PDT by jacjmm
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To: 556x45

Most parts of the South are gun-friendly, but some aren’t. For example, here in North Carolina, the state requires anyone obtaining a handgun, by purchase, gift, or estate, to apply for a “pistol purchase permit” from the local county sheriff’s office. You fill out a form, pay a small fee, they give you the permit, you can then obtain the gun, and the permit is no longer needed and is not retained. Problem is, it’s not must-issue; county sheriffs have the final power to deny the permit, and considering I live in the most liberal county in the state, they make it as hard as possible to get one here. What’s worse, I also live in the only county in the state that requires handgun registration in addition to the clunky permitting process. It’s specifically forbidden by state law for a county or city to require registration...except for Durham County, which was grandfathered in when the law was passed in the 1930s.

You go next door to South Carolina and they’re much more laid-back about purchasing handguns...but last I checked, open carry is against state law, whereas here, it isn’t (though it’ll still probably get you detained when people see you packing and hyperventilate and call 911). Every state has its quirks and tricks with firearms laws.

}:-)4


31 posted on 09/08/2011 9:46:40 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: Moose4

:) I would say most of the south isn’t gun friendly. Any state that doesn’t restrict FA, sound suppressors, has easy (as in cheap w/ no hoops to jump thru) CCW, open carry, castle doctrine, police force that doesn’t hassle gun owners, etc doesn’t fit the gun friendly category. NC is a complete joke in regard to guns. NH OTOH is excellent on all counts. Even hippy infested VT scores high. In addition the NH legislature just overrode the sissy governors veto on a super self defense bill.


32 posted on 09/08/2011 9:55:41 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: 556x45

To each his own...when it comes to population; NH exports outnumber imports. Wonder why?


33 posted on 09/08/2011 10:06:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: jacjmm

Should’a finished ‘em off. Attempted murder? Might as well go for the whole thing!


34 posted on 09/08/2011 10:15:26 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: jacjmm

In the 90’s I was driving a cab nights, someone tried to rob me of my bank bag and I beat down the robber with my hands (black belt) and I was convicted of felonious assault. The most infuriating thing is, naive fool that I was, I reported the attempted robbery to the police, and they actually told me if I had kept my mouth shut the case would likely have gone nowhere.

According to the interpretation of this lib judge, if a person is capable of defending themselves they have enough control of the situation to effect an escape, and it was my civic duty to retreat.

As far as I’m concerned, I’m more equipped than the average bear to make abusers retreat and sometimes it’s a moral duty to make them do so. But now I know to keep my teeth together, afterwards. The justice system is an industry that needs both victims and criminals, and if you refuse to be a victim, you will be the criminal.


35 posted on 09/08/2011 10:37:21 AM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: jacjmm

Massachusetts should be ASHAMED


36 posted on 09/08/2011 11:02:27 AM PDT by patriot preacher
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