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Owners Angry After Cops Shoot Dog in Backyard
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Posted on 09/09/2011 11:13:55 PM PDT by Borough Park

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But Samuelson's neighbor, Fernando Perez, said he told the cops several times that Ozzy was roaming in the back.

When the security alarm system at the home went off, Samuelson called Perez to check it out while she made the 20-minute drive to her house, he said. Perez said he knew not to go into the backyard because of the dog and when officers arrived, he warned them.

"'Be careful. It’s a big dog,' I told them. They told me to go back to my house," said Perez, who repeated the warning several more times. "Before I get to my driveway, I hear the two shots. They walked into the backyard with the guns in their hand. Then they ran from the backyard like they were scared or something."

Samuelson said she got Ozzy to protect the house and deter thieves. Police have not said what triggered the alarm.

"He was our protector," Samuelson said. "He’s a huge part of our family."

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To: kanawa

I have a similar job, and have approached doors with Rotts, Dobes, etc. in the front yard. I’ve never needed a firearm to defend myself, but that box of milkbones in the front of my car has sure come in handy a few times.


141 posted on 09/10/2011 9:27:36 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Lady Lucky
FYI some of the most worthy and appropriate laws are those which protect the people from the government, for example the Constitution.

If you agree with the above, then you should support limiting laws, not passing another one to solve today's perceived problem. Your logic and action are not in sync.

As I said, laws enslave us and our founders understood that. They sought to limit govt in all areas. There are means other than law to solve this problem, why always pass a law that changes NOTHING.

As far as knee jerk reactions go, thinking that a law will solve the problem IS a knee jerk reaction, practiced often by liberals and conservatives.

Remember the Paperwork reduction act of the 80’s with Reagan. We were drowning in paperwork and bureaucracy. End result was another bureaucracy created that didn't solve a damn thing, costing us millions every year today.

Now, lets talk about a way to solve this problem without passing another law and not enslaving ourselves and the next generation.........................

142 posted on 09/10/2011 9:38:17 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: PeterPrinciple
There are means other than law to solve this problem

"Other." Mm-hmm. I see where you're coming from, so I won't waste my time any further.

143 posted on 09/10/2011 9:44:26 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: Borough Park
'Del Castillo said the dog charged the officers, who entered the backyard to investigate the house. Then the dog was shot, she said.

'The shooting is being looked into but officers are instructed not to go into a backyard if they are warned about a dog, she said.

'"'Be careful. It’s a big dog,' I told them. They told me to go back to my house," said Perez, who repeated the warning several more times. "Before I get to my driveway, I hear the two shots. They walked into the backyard with the guns in their hand. Then they ran from the backyard like they were scared or something."'

Seems to me unreasonable when the man told them the dog was there.

OTOH, not only does the Det. claim the dog charged them, but the neighbor said they looked scared right after the shooting.

Perhaps the cops were indeed scared of the dog for good reason.

Of course, even so I don't see why, even if not warned, cops (or anyone) must automatically shoot a dog doing its normal thing - protecting its ground. Could they not have gotten out of the fence?

I am starting to think more "dog psychology" needs to be taught to cops in their courses. Maybe Cesar Millan can visit.

144 posted on 09/10/2011 9:49:08 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

You try telling a cop to NOT do something.

Let me know how that works out for ya...


145 posted on 09/10/2011 10:04:10 AM PDT by null and void (Day 963 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Lady Lucky
And I might add that the Paper Work Reduction Act gave mechanism and legitimacy for more rules and regulation, thus increasing them at a faster pace.

Passing a law to address this problem, just gives cover and legitimacy for the next LEO that shoots a dog.

I would dare propose to you that a solution is already being implemented and no further action is required. The uproar created in that local community is being noticed by all in that community. No officer wants to noticed, and they are all talking about it. They know if they do it, they are next. There is NO COVER or MEANS to justify this action, until you give them the protocol through another law! THINK, PEOPLE, THINK!

146 posted on 09/10/2011 10:11:19 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: tacticalogic

Sadly, you’re probably right.


147 posted on 09/10/2011 10:25:33 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Similar to a service dog.


148 posted on 09/10/2011 10:29:28 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

When in hole, keep digging. I’m not reading your long post so don’t look for answers :)


149 posted on 09/10/2011 10:38:53 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Or mine.

[the fenced part is a half acre surrounded by 6 foot fence...bring plenty of adrenaline]

;]

150 posted on 09/10/2011 10:39:29 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: Salamander
Exactly one year ago today, a Koran tried to sneak across my yard, and look what happened to it...

...and we all know how quickly islam can move across an entire region!

151 posted on 09/10/2011 10:44:35 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Lady Lucky
These have always worked for us:

When the libs started building McMansions down the road, their brats took up breaking into the old hillbilly houses and stealing what little they had.

They never came here.

Go figure.

152 posted on 09/10/2011 10:48:22 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: Salamander
The most effective one I aver actually came across in my wanderings was this:

153 posted on 09/10/2011 10:52:44 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a small monthly donor.)
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To: AlaskaGrown

“I am the kid that said “Mom, he followed me home!””

If I had a dime for every time I said that...even when it was a possum or groundhog and I was obviously *carrying* it home against its will...LOL

Generally, because the local yokels are all good ol’ boys who grew up here where everybody and their brother has a bunch of hounds running in the yard and they’re used to that, we don’t get many [can’t think of any, actually] dog shootings.

To the east, however, is our little “big town” and the city cops, I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw them.

The W.MD state troopers are pretty cool, too.

We were crossing Haystack Mtn up in Cumberland in an ice storm and state cop was risking his own life to save a red tail hawk who’d been stunned by a car.

We offered to help him keep the bird off the interstate but he told us it was too dangerous and that he already had a rehabber on the way.

This seems to be mostly an “urban” phenomenon although I’m sure it’s happened in the hinterlands as well.


154 posted on 09/10/2011 11:01:25 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL


155 posted on 09/10/2011 11:03:35 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

LOL!

I’ve seen those.

You can even get breed-specific versions.

There’s tons of them.

“Cross the line, your ass is mine”.
“I can make it to the fence in 2.1 seconds. Can YOU?”
“Whatever steps in this yard is mine to eat”

There’s so many really funny/good ones I can only think of a few, right now.

:)


156 posted on 09/10/2011 11:10:26 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
These two just crack me up:

And the wonderfully ambiguous "WTH!? sign"


157 posted on 09/10/2011 11:13:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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To: Ken H

You don’t know my German Shepherd.

Most times she couldn’t care less. More especially from inside the house.


158 posted on 09/10/2011 11:28:45 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Lazamataz

That problem seems to have solved itself, big time!


159 posted on 09/10/2011 11:44:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Lazamataz

Darn. And I was literally just having a nice disagreement with fw on a Ryder Rental/Moslem thread. Who’da thought he’d be banned the next day?


160 posted on 09/10/2011 11:52:49 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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