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Republican candidates at odds over Social Security
LJ World ^ | September 10, 2011 | Philip Elliott,

Posted on 09/10/2011 5:52:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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Gov. Rick Perry has made it clear that when people have jobs, when taxes are lowered, regulations relaxed, when lawyers don't feast on your bones, then you will have a healthy economy where communities thrive, where there will be money for schools and the fire department and the police department -- that more businesses and families will move to healthy communities and build on the free-market capitalism that underpins American exceptionalism.

Perry Barnstorms Newport Beach

Perry Campaign: Remember When Romney Compared Social Security to a Criminal Enterprise? [quote from Romney's book] " What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.” [end quote]


1 posted on 09/10/2011 5:52:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Did Perry Blow It on Social Security? (Marco Rubio and Ron Johnson certainly didn't)There is a brand of Republican who looks at President Obama’s vulnerability on the economy and says, “Go for it!” They argue that the overriding issue of the campaign should be jobs — and that everything else should be a distant second.

There is another kind of Republican who sees the election of 2012 as a tipping point for the nation — a do-or-die moment when we will either pull back from the precipice of debt and national decline or fall off the edge. This second brand of Republican is hoping that a candidate will emerge who can lay before the American people the nature of the challenge we face in a direct and forthright way. If a campaign is run and won on the need to reform our obese government, the new president will have a mandate to take the necessary steps once in office.

After Wednesday’s Republican debate, it seems that Mitt Romney represents the first group, and Rick Perry stands for the second. ………………”

Rick Perry’s Air War (with the EPA)...........>>>Texas alone opted for the unfriendly approach. It’s the only state that did not issue a plan for compliance—and Perry has made it clear that Texas has no intention of complying. The move was a blatant slap to the Obama administration—and once again gave Perry the national spotlight. Defying the climate rules offered him the perfect opportunity to loudly decry the science of global warming—which in his book Fed Up! he calls a “contrived phony mess that is falling apart under its own weight”—and to slam EPA as a “rogue agency” with an “activist mind-set” that has “targeted Texas.” Such rhetoric is viral catnip to the tea party voters who could help catapult Perry to the 2012 presidential nomination.<<<..............


Metro - Carolyn and Ron Agnew, center, of Pflugerville, wait for Governor Rick Perry's arrival during the Rick Perry Welcome Home Rally at Abel's on the Lake in Austin on Saturday, August 20, 2011. LISA KRANTZ/lkrantz@express-news.net

In Texas Schools, Perry Shuns Federal Influence ………>>>When Secretary of Education Arne Duncan jabbed Mr. Perry on public schools in mid-August, it was only the latest skirmish between the governor and the Obama administration since late 2009, when Mr. Perry announced that the state would not sign on to common core-curriculum standards.<<<...

The Left is signaling that they hope a President Perry will fix education and get the inner cities out from under the impossible mess they've created.

Will Rick Perry Unravel the Strange Consensus on Public Education?

Trial lawyers prep for war on Perry America’s trial lawyers are getting ready to make the case against one of their biggest targets in years: Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Among litigators, there is no presidential candidate who inspires the same level of hatred – and fear – as Perry, an avowed opponent of the plaintiffs’ bar who has presided over several rounds of tort reform as governor.

And if Perry ends up as the Republican nominee for president, deep-pocketed trial lawyers intend to play a central role in the campaign to defeat him.

That’s a potential financial boon to a president who has unsettled trial lawyers with his own rhetorical gestures in the direction of tort reform. A general election pitting Barack Obama and Perry could turn otherwise apathetic trial lawyers into a phalanx of pro-Obama bundlers and super PAC donors. …..”

2 posted on 09/10/2011 5:52:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The MSM is in overdrive trying to Romney as the Republican nominee.


3 posted on 09/10/2011 5:56:36 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The easiest way in the world to fix social security is to pull everyone in congress OUT of their comfy retirement plan that none of the proles will ever see, and put them into social security.

Once you start playing with money in THEIR pocket, you’ll see changes.

But, to quote Shrek, “Like that’ll ever happen”.


4 posted on 09/10/2011 5:56:55 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Obama 2011: "Let them eat peas")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry’s right as was Bush.

The Masshole communist is wrong.


5 posted on 09/10/2011 5:59:30 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I’m not so sure.
SS payments would be pocket money to most of these folks.

Remember that Congress is not covered by insider trading laws, so as CNBC recently pointed out, most of them have “market crushing” investment returns.

That’s why folks spend millions to run for a job that pays thousands.


6 posted on 09/10/2011 6:02:18 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Same with their gold plated health care (THAT CAN NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE CRAP WE HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO BUY or else), barbershop perks, gym perks, car perks, mailing perks, travel perks.....

These people need to go home and get a damn job.


7 posted on 09/10/2011 6:04:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: KansasGirl

The only conflict is with Mittens and himself.
In his book he writes that the Social Security System is a Criminal Enterprise. And on stage he tries to defend it. As usual, Mittens has not seen a position on any issue he will not take if it polls well for him at the moment.


8 posted on 09/10/2011 6:05:31 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

They are and HAVE been in it since 1984!

Things ARE changing!


9 posted on 09/10/2011 6:06:41 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We're screwed. All you need to do is look at FR threads to see how many supposed die-hard conservatives are against abolishing this unconstitutional welfare scheme.

Even a good many Freepers believe they have "paid into" some imaginary account.

10 posted on 09/10/2011 6:06:58 AM PDT by triumphant values
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My question is this? What Perry wrote in his book (I never read it) about his opinion on social security, was it the same as the rational he gave at the debate? Or was it just the response that his team prepared for, knowing that the question was coming?

Just wondering if he toned down his belief at the debate, or was his response identical to what he wrote in the book...anybody?


11 posted on 09/10/2011 6:11:17 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012 or flippin bust)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

First, Perry qualified his answer during the debate by first stating that any changes would not affect current seniors or those, like him, who are soon to retire.

Just like liberals, the media, Romney and FReepers forget to mention that.

Second, SS is a ponzi scheme and must have changes in order to survive. Obama, during his “pass this teleprompter” speech said the same of Medicare.

Rubio won in Florida on a SS Reform platform.

This is much ado about nothing.


12 posted on 09/10/2011 6:11:32 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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13 posted on 09/10/2011 6:17:12 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"That sets up a battle for older voters"

The assumption of these arrogant journalists is that once anyone turns 65 he also turns stupid. The opposite is the case. We "Social Security Eligible" individuals are perfectly capable of understanding the truth. We tend to vote for those who speak it. Social Security IS a Ponzi Scheme. Those that deny that should not be president, nor in any other political office.

14 posted on 09/10/2011 6:17:55 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: KansasGirl

The MSM/Rep est had been pushing Perry, but I believe that is over and now they will try to push Romney. Polls are all manufactured on the current whim of the pollsters. For some reason they wanted to push Perry, just as they did Bachmann, prior to dropping her. Now they are going to push Romney again.

I predict that we will see this trend in the phony MSM/REP EST polls over the coming days.

One of the reasons they pushed MB and then RP, was in part to keep SP out of the race, but now they are in a funny spot, they no longer want to push Perry, so in essence they are going to end up helping SP, which they desperately wanted to show in a bad light.

All the polls are phony any way you slice it, they all have an agenda.


15 posted on 09/10/2011 6:19:03 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012 or flippin bust)
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.........Just wondering if he toned down his belief at the debate, ...........

?????????????????????

November 2010: Perry calls Social Security bankrupt 'Ponzi scheme'

Aug 29, 2011: In Iowa Saturday, Perry reasserted the claim, first made in his 2010 treatise Fed Up!, that the federal retirement program is a "monstrous lie" perpetuated by Washington on the American public.

Sept 7, 2011: 4 Minute YouTube VIDEO Clip: Perry Fires At Rove & Romney: Social Security Is A "Ponzi Scheme" And A "Monstrous Lie"

16 posted on 09/10/2011 6:20:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: norwaypinesavage
The assumption of these arrogant journalists is that once anyone turns 65 he also turns stupid. The opposite is the case. We "Social Security Eligible" individuals are perfectly capable of understanding the truth. We tend to vote for those who speak it. Social Security IS a Ponzi Scheme. Those that deny that should not be president, nor in any other political office.

BRAVO!!!

WELL SAID!

I am one of the eligible, I have been calling social security a Ponzi scheme all of my life, and I WILL vote for Rick Perry!

17 posted on 09/10/2011 6:21:59 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Erik Latranyi
Rubio won in Florida on a SS Reform platform.

And Ron Johnson won a U.S. Senate seat in Wisconsin on a SS Reform platform.

So you have "God's waiting room" voters and "union stronghold" voters looking for leadership on the broken retirement program, social security.

President Perry is next.

18 posted on 09/10/2011 6:24:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: norwaypinesavage

Obama has already robbed SS funds and plans to rob some more with his 450 billion job plan.


19 posted on 09/10/2011 6:25:13 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: norwaypinesavage

>> The assumption of these arrogant journalists is that once anyone turns 65 he also turns stupid. The opposite is the case.

The journos also assume that seniors have no conscience, which is not the case either.

In general, they love their children greatly, and their grandchildren even more. A truthful dialog about fixing SS so their offspring won’t suffer the consequences can get traction.


20 posted on 09/10/2011 6:25:48 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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