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Gun store owner had misgivings about ATF sting(AZ)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11 September, 2011 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 09/12/2011 5:24:27 AM PDT by marktwain

When federal agents with Operation Fast and Furious told Andre Howard to sell weapons to illegal purchasers, he complied, but he feared someone would get hurt. Then a border agent was shot.

Reporting from Glendale and Rio Rico, Ariz.— In the fall of 2009, ATF agents installed a secret phone line and hidden cameras in a ceiling panel and wall at Andre Howard's Lone Wolf gun store. They gave him one basic instruction: Sell guns to every illegal purchaser who walks through the door.

For 15 months, Howard did as he was told. To customers with phony IDs or wads of cash he normally would have turned away, he sold pistols, rifles and semiautomatics. He was assured by the ATF that they would follow the guns, and that the surveillance would lead the agents to the violent Mexican drug cartels on the Southwest border.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: a; atf; banglist; doj; fastandfurious; gunwalker; lonewolf; oba; obama
Wasn't Lone Wolf gun store fingered by the Washington Post as a nexus of illegal sales of guns right after the gun walker scandal broke?

Were not the Post reporters smearing Lone Wolf?

1 posted on 09/12/2011 5:24:29 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 09/12/2011 5:25:08 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

FOR REFERENCE:

DAVID CODREA'S PROJECT GUNWALKER

A Journalist's guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part One

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Two

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Three

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Four

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Five

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Six


3 posted on 09/12/2011 5:26:18 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: marktwain

If I were this gun shop owner, I would have shut down my store before complying with this BS. One shouldn’t break the law(especially laws that could get people killed when broken) or do something immoral just because it’s their government telling them to do it!


4 posted on 09/12/2011 5:27:28 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: MestaMachine

thx


5 posted on 09/12/2011 5:27:48 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: KoRn
"If I were this gun shop owner, I would have shut down my store before complying with this BS. One shouldn’t break the law(especially laws that could get people killed when broken) or do something immoral just because it’s their government telling them to do it!"

What are the odds that you would then be arrested on some trumped up charged and imprisoned along with members of your family as alleged accomplices?

6 posted on 09/12/2011 5:39:26 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: marktwain
When federal agents with Operation Fast and Furious told Andre Howard to sell weapons to illegal purchasers, he complied, but he feared someone would get hurt. Then a border agent was shot.

So Big Sis' goons didn't *ask* this guy for his cooperation, they *told* him what he was going to do. How...what's the word? Fascist...

7 posted on 09/12/2011 6:05:41 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Truth29

If this doesn’t force the resignation of Holder I’ll be amazed. Total incompetence or negligence. God, this makes me angry.


8 posted on 09/12/2011 6:07:33 AM PDT by refermech
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To: refermech

“If this doesn’t force the resignation of Holder I’ll be amazed. “

Someone other than Holder will get the shaft....Holder is Obama’s stooge. Holder already is the teflon Don.


9 posted on 09/12/2011 6:11:12 AM PDT by oust the louse (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: marktwain
When federal agents with Operation Fast and Furious told Andre Howard to sell weapons to illegal purchasers, he complied,...

I hope he got that in writing!

10 posted on 09/12/2011 6:14:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray
I hope he got that in writing!

If nothing else, the owner should've been doing some wire-tapping or video recording of his own...of the ATF.

11 posted on 09/12/2011 6:29:42 AM PDT by moovova
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To: marktwain

Mr. Howard should have respectfully declined the ATF’s request and suggest they find another patsy.


12 posted on 09/12/2011 6:33:16 AM PDT by semaj
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To: Truth29
"What are the odds that you would then be arrested on some trumped up charged and imprisoned along with members of your family as alleged accomplices?"

If it is as bad as your question suggests, why are we still talking and not shooting these bastards?

13 posted on 09/12/2011 6:35:07 AM PDT by semaj
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To: marktwain

Just say no!


14 posted on 09/12/2011 6:49:54 AM PDT by pallis
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To: semaj
"If it is as bad as your question suggests, why are we still talking and not shooting these bastards?"

Good question, but if you have been running a gun store for any length of time, and the Feds go back through your records with sandpaper, you are very exposed to anything they want to do.

15 posted on 09/12/2011 7:09:16 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: refermech
If this doesn’t force the resignation of Holder

Go back and review WATERGATE. The pawns (Holder on down) are trying to keep America from knowing it was O B A M A himself that ordered this stupidity.

Didn't you listen to any of his speeches? Only a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER turned POTUS could be stupid enough to try this.

16 posted on 09/12/2011 8:33:57 AM PDT by politicianslie (plug in RADICAL MUSLIM into Obama's idiotic actions and you can figure out his next moves)
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To: refermech
If this doesn’t force the resignation of Holder

Go back and review WATERGATE. The pawns (Holder on down) are trying to keep America from knowing it was O B A M A himself that ordered this stupidity.

Didn't you listen to any of his speeches? Only a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER turned POTUS could be stupid enough to try this.

17 posted on 09/12/2011 8:34:11 AM PDT by politicianslie (plug in RADICAL MUSLIM into Obama's idiotic actions and you can figure out his next moves)
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To: refermech
Total incompetence or negligence

Just think of all the e-mail traffic that went back and forth between the dealers and ATF, unencrypted. You know what they say, "Once it's out there, it's out there forever". And this was an international operation.

That tells you all you need to know about the level of competence and seriousness of these hacks.

Minumum, it should have been encrypted Secret, if not Top Secret.

18 posted on 09/12/2011 8:43:25 AM PDT by FlyVet
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