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I am in no way impacted by the issue, but I’ve always felt it would be more reasonable to determine a baseline support amount. There are of course many expenses incurred by custodial parents that are difficult to quantify, but does anyone believe that awards of several thousand per month are justified?

Most States - I imagine all - have a very nice sophisticated official legal formula where all the numbers get plugged in and a number pops out which is what the support is. That's why wealthy guys get hammered - it's partly based on what the guy makes. We can't have a rich guy's kids going around without mommy getting a lot of dough from daddy. Heavens, how would that look ?

This is what keeps the system going: everyone is making money off it except the poor stooge who was simply seeking female relations when he got married. The wife, judges, lawyers - all make money. And have extremely powerful lobbyists working for them in every State legislature. We can't abandon the poor kids - no not the kids ! We need to turn those evil husbands upside down and shake them - that's what they deserve !

The system literally dangles a big fat windfall payout in front of every married woman. 24 hours a day - the offer is there. Just pick up the phone and make that call. And you can get rid of your husband, legally, for once and for all - and still get him to pay you as much as he can possibly afford every month. If you'd like, you can torture and tease him with the kids, but you don't have to. In either case, dollar signs are flashed in front of her eyes constantly by our legal system. And the "freedom" of being able to "get out into the singles scene again". Have fun, travel, go out. And you don't have to listen to your husband's complaints any more. You're free !

Of course, it's all a lie, as the husband's attitude will shift after the divorce, he will be forced to be a part-time father to the kids. It's not as good a relationship as a full-time father. He'll be thrown back into the "singles scene" against his will. Not fun. There is nothing good about the whole situation. The wife will get some or all of her measely child support, often far less than anticipated. And the lives of everyone in the family will be at best tolerable, but most likely very frustrating and piled high with regrets and strife. But the judges and lawyers will be looking at the destruction of that family in the rear-view mirror, laughing at how they cranked up the fees on that case.

Ruined lives are just collateral damage in the war against families. Men's net pay is just the spoils of war.

—The system literally dangles a big fat windfall payout in front of every married woman. 24 hours a day - the offer is there. Just pick up the phone and make that call. And you can get rid of your husband, legally, for once and for all - and still get him to pay you as much as he can possibly afford every month. If you’d like, you can torture and tease him with the kids, but you don’t have to.—

Those right there are the most important words in this thread. It is why my animosity doesn’t go to the women divorcing their “regular guy” husbands at record numbers, but the system that LITERALLY motivates them to. When it comes to the woman, the state plays the part of “homewrecker” as much as the husband stealing “other woman” does with the man. Sure, responsibility lies with the husband and the wife in each situation, but still...

I will say this for the state. They are a homewrecking machine that likes to keep it strictly business: I payed my ex via payments to the state. I know of some guys who paid the ex directly and were forced to pay again when they could not prove they made the payments.

—Of course, it’s all a lie, as the husband’s attitude will shift after the divorce, he will be forced to be a part-time father to the kids.—

In my case I felt more like a favorite uncle. It permanently damaged how I view my children and my perception of their view of me. It is like 1944 and I am England, the ex is Germany, and my kids are Switzerland.

To this day (and they are in their late 20’s and 30’s.). I will never feel close to them.