Posted on 09/12/2011 10:08:48 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
Ron Paul was roundly booed at the GOP debate after very unpopular comments about US foreign policies in the Arab world.
I don’t understand the appeal of Ron Paul. The guy is nuts.
You know, come to think of it, RP is about the only one still carrying the pro-Islam, anti-America banner. Most of the other loons have shut up about it now that their guy is in charge.
As someone once said about Charles Manson, at least he’s consistent.
I have tried to be libertarian, but just can’t. I have even gone to the website to see if they just aren’t telling it right. I last about 10 minutes and then it’s legalize dope or stop all wars and I have to leave. On a scale of 1 to 10, they usually come in about 6 and Dems about 2. I’ll stay Republican at about an 8. If we just had a Conservative party, maybe I could find a home. I like the Constitution Party, but they get about 7 votes each cycle.
We, myself and about 15 other Freepers, were at the debate watch party in Tampa, and your statement doesn't even come close to how looney tunes they are! There was a sizable contingent, carry Paul signs and being as obnoxious as they could be!
What is wrong is that paleoPaulie is a crackpot whose policy is hate and blame America First. He won't be getting elected to Congress any more since Texas Republican state legislators have done their patriotic duty and eliminated his district. He then announced that, ummmm, he would not run again for Congress so that he could concentrate on his run for POTUS. Yeah, that's the ticket!!! We don't need the craven cowardice of the foreign policies of George McGovern and Neville Chamberlain and Sean Penn and Code Pink and Ramsay Clark grafted and transplanted onto the GOP. Nor shall we have it.
And again the phony misuse of the "neocon" label (shared by New Republic, the Nation and Paulistinians who all needed a common term to try to tear down the popularity of actual conservatism) . Neocons are a group of aged or dead formerly leftist (mostly) New York City intellectuals who fled the Demonratic Party when it was seized by anti-American communists under George McGovern, had its party rules changed to prevent patriots from being able to be nominated by the Demonrat Party conventions, and (mostly) transferred their allegiance to the GOP. Irving Kristol, Gertrude Himmelfarb, Donald Kagan, Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, Daniel Bell, Alexander Bickel, Sidney Hook, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Jeanne Kirkpatrick and other giants of their generation. Most are gone now but they have left a stronger movement and a great legacy behind and they understood foreign and social policy far better than airhead hereditary Republican trust fund babies like James Baker, Upchuck Percy (actually a hand-chosen but windtunnel poor kid funded by the Rockefellers), anything named Romney, Muffy at the yacht club, Skipper at the polo club, the Junior League generally, and the delusional Troofers, Libertoonians and Holocaust deniers of the El Run Paulie "movement."
Ron Paul and his merry band of leftist college antiwar, antiAmerican, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, dope-smoking or snorting college trash and refugees from Woodstock are NOT going to alter the terms of the political discussion much less elect their hero to ruin the USA as POTUS. There are libertarians who have not lost their minds but Ron Paul is not a very good example. Don't paint all libertarians with the delusional paleoPaulie brush. He is a peace creep. He is a crackpot. He is the Harold Stassen of faux libertarians, an irritating dishonest dimwit and nothing more. No more deserving of conservative respect than was Cynthia McKinney.
For every alienated libertarian we lose, we will gain ten socially conservative and militarily aggressive working class Democrats who will be the next generation of Reagan Democrats. So long, Paulie! Take Chuck Hagel, Weepy Walter Jones and Jimmy Duncan with you when you go.
BTW, in nearly fifty years of conservative activism, I have yet to meet a single conservative who admired rather than despised Woodrow Wilson. We are no more enthusiastic for his League of Nations than we are for the United Nations, not fans of his Ku Klux Klan views as an historian, or his generally useless progressivism.
We take nothing for granted but I would not assume a close election. It looks right now as though Obozo will be Carter II in more ways than just policy failure. How did libertarians vote in 1972, 1980 and 1984? Did anyone bother to notice? Libertarians can get SOME of what they want on taxes and business regulation from the GOP but they need not hallucinate that they will be the tail that wags the dog (particularly on military, on interventionism, on the mass slaughter of innocent babies and on homosexual anything. Expansionism???? What expansionism? Try tobacco. Even tobacco is better for you.
Here we go yet again - Ron Paul's supporters can never directly defend his comments and his behavior so they try to make the discussion be about something else other than what was being discussed. This is still the guy who openly campaigned for Adam Kokesh.
He got more cheers than jeers.
He got only jeers with the comments that are being discussed.
Paul needs to dumb down his rhetoric, but I’m glad he’s on stage nonetheless.
Let me guess, you have every issue of Commentary magazine back to 1945 and you were up in the attic thumbing through a few. :-)
That post was awesome. You have a way with words and I’ll be looking for more of your jeremiads.
“Jerusalem has grievously sinned, therefore she is become unstable; all that honoured her, have despised her, because they have seen her shame; but she sighed, and turned backward. Her filthiness is on her feet, and she has not remembered her end; she is wonderfully cast down, not having a comforter...”
“Do you really want to antagonize all of the libertarians?”
I have no problem antagonizing anyone who thinks that the Al qaeda just needs to be ‘understood’ and has nothing to do with a radical islamofascist campaign to establish sharia law all across the globe
Perhaps not: Bawney "Fannie and Fweddie Are Fine" Fwank. Tax-Cheat Rangle. Maxine "The Felon" Waters. Sheila Jackson "Mars Landing" Lee. Cynthia "Bush was Behind 9/11" McKinney. Nancy "Pass It To See What's In It" Pelousy. And there are probably upwards of 300 more examples.
I saw that, and was very pleased to see Santorum take the pathetic Paul to task over that... to hear Paul stammer over “what al-Qaeda said” and how we should react to their wishes — to a loud chorus of boos — was rich. It was a stark reminder that the nutcase Wrong Paul is completely unfit to serve in the White House.
What debate were you listening to? While he was giving props to al-Qaeda, the booing was FAR louder than any cheering. Paul is a nutcase who shouldn`t be anywhere near the levers of power.
Ther were people in the audience booing and cheering on the exact same points that Paul was making. To give the impression that it wast total disagreement with his views is pure distortion.
Santorum went off on the patriotic and simple mantra that they attacked us because they do not like us because of what we stand for. Paul got into a much more intellectual discussion, saying that Santorum’s interpretation is not how those that attack us feel about it. Paul then provided examples of their thinking. That is when he got booed.
It sounds to me like some in the audience thought Paul was expressing that opinion himself.
This is why a serious thinker can’t run for office. Go for the soundbites Paul, that is all they are capable of listening to.
What about Paul’s question. Do we need 900 military bases around the world. What if we redirected some of those resources and towards defence and spent less on military?
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