Someone smarter than I recently said: "if you voted for Obama to prove you weren't a racist, you now have to vote for anyone else to prove you are not stupid." - - -
I ALWAYS tell Jews in America to vote for whoever is best for AMERICA, as it is up to Israel to take care of herself and we can't expect the American President (whoever he/she is) to be more of a Zionist than our own leaders. However, even when taking Israel out of the picture, I don't see why anyone would re-elect Obama.... - - -
Dems worried that their court Jews are fleeing the palace. - - -
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...a/#more-767381
It’s true most Jews are not single-issue voters who only care about Israel. Many are die-hard liberals who will never vote for a Republican no matter how often Obama offended Jewish sensibilities on Israel. But some Jewish centrists and even some liberals are not indifferent to the fact Israelis consider Obama to be the least friendly American president in recent memory. Add in the fact that, like most Americans, Jewish voters understand Obama is an indecisive leader who inherited a shaky economy and made it worse, and that’s a recipe for potential electoral disaster. The one factor Democrats still have going for them is that most liberal Jews are still far more fearful of pro-Israel evangelical Christians because of their stand on church-state separation than they are of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah or even al-Qaeda. That means a candidate like Rick Perry will likely struggle to improve on John McCain’s poor showing among Jewish voters in 2008 despite doubts about Obama on Israel. That will mean the Democrat “message” to Jews will have far more to do with scaremongering about evangelicals as well as the usual liberal Medicare tactics about entitlement cuts than it will about Obama’s virtues. But that doesn’t necessarily solve Democratic fundraising woes or save weak congressional candidates like David Weprin in NY-9. - - -
"My personal opinion is that Obama could vote for Palestinian Statehood later this month and still get over 50% of the American Jewish vote. Ideology is thicker than blood." Unfortunately, I think you are right. If 78% of Jews could vote for Obama after finding out that his religious mentor blamed 9/11 on Jews, they will vote for him again. - - -
I don't think District 9 is representative of other Jewish communities in the US. True, Obama will not get 78% of the Jewish vote again, but somewhere between 50-65%, which is unacceptable. - - -
I wonder if they would ever give their money to Romney or Perry; both of whom are leagues above Obama in support for Israel. Probably not, but one can always dream - - -
Obama Loses ‘PA Referendum’ in NY Election Republican Bob Turner won an upset in NY’s strongly Democratic 9th district in a special election that focused on Obama’s views of Israel. The ninth district, especially the Orthodox Jewish community, voted strongly for President Obama in 2008 but now gives him an approval rating of only 13 percent, largely because of his backing of the Palestinian Authority.
Obama will not get the level of support of 2008 among any constituency and I would put blacks in there as well. They will stay home. He is a LOSER.
Did you hear Wasserman-Schnootz’s comment about the NY election? She said 3 utterly inane things. I can only paraphrase. Something like (1) “those people, (referring to the voters in the NY 9 district) if they weren’t so ignorant about Israel, would know that Obama is the best choice for them”, and also (2) “those Jews are not like my Jews [in my district] and finally said something like (3) [implying that off-year elections aren’t indicative of anything in particular] “off-year elections are almost inevitably driven by citizens and residents and voters in the election area”.
This thread needs some Mel Brooks. I defer to your judgement.
Least friendly? He freak’n hates Israel and he insulted and snubbed the Israeli prime minister. Obama and his fellow “think-alikes” are a disaster! Come on 2012!
Jews didn’t just vote for a Republican. They voted for a Catholic Republican over an Orthodox Jewish democrat who never said anything bad about Israel. That’s what is crazy about this election.
Good one!
the 9th New York is a one third Jewish district, I’d like to see a demographic exit poll if anyone sees one
it took more than the Jewish Israel reaction vote for this outcome
I’ll never forget those photos of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu exiting the White House by trash cans, or the photos of him looking like he was in despair because of Obama’s ill treatment of him. That was so upsetting to me, Israel is our friend and ally and should be treated as such!
God bless Israel!!!
ping!
As for black voters, I'm quite confident they'll vote 'race' (for Obama) as they did in 2008 but in notably smaller numbers (low turnout) because they have to realize that Barry has done almost nothing for his 'brothers' except put them deeper into poverty. That won't help the Republican candidate unless, as I expect, many normally apathetic non-black voters decide they've had enough of socialism and vote Republican. I expect Obama to go down in flames, electorally, in the 2012 election. Too much economic damage has been done to far too many Americans to justify keeping him in office. The black vote won't save him, for sure and Latinos won't save him, either. Only a small percentage of voters are hard-core liberals (20%?) and with a big voter turnout, as is justifiably expected, Obama will be finished. Not a moment too soon, in my opinion. I just hope that the Republicans will run a conservative who won't just tread water with Democrat policies and nibble away at programs and policies that need to be blasted into smithereens.
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As I'm noting on these threads, I wouldn't draw long term conclusions. Jews, like everyone else, vote on a multitude of issues, not just Israel. Economic issues are likely as important to Jews, as they are to everyone else.
I predicted this six months ago and I stand by it today - Obama will lose 25-35 percent of the Jewish vote from 2008. Those are the Jews who like Israel and America. They vote Dem because of white guilt, social issues, and fear of Christians. They are reflexively leftist.
But there is a hardcore far left among Jews which will not be affected. This group hates the West and sides with the Muslims.