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Can America Afford to Allow ANY Labor Unions to Legally Exist?
Vanity/Commonsense | September 14, 2011 | Graewoulf

Posted on 09/14/2011 7:40:29 AM PDT by Graewoulf

With the very successful bankrupting of America by Dictator Obama, Dodd-Frank bill/law/bill, un-Constitutional Entitlement taxation laws such as Social Security System, MediCare, MediAid, and obabmatrauma"care", does America really need to continue to allow our Labor Unions to exist? Is this not overkill?

Look at the record of the Teacher's Union in 2008: they supported a candidate that was totally incompetent, and totally without experience to take over running the world's largest business, which is the US Federal Government.

One would think that teachers would be educated enough to distinguish between competent and incompetent, qualified and unqualified. It gives one pause, as these are the same teachers who are being paid by us to teach our children THEIR values.

Now that America has been so successfully bankrupted, do we really need this much overkill? The Liberal's Welfare State has won, and we all promise to learn Chinese, hire only illegal aliens, and keep on voting for those who promise to burden us with the most debt possible.

The debt-creators have won, but do we need to have Labor Unions to continue to bully us around?

Hopefully, the New Jersey Law against Bully Behavior can be approved by the NINE SUPREMES, so that all of America can be protected from those bad bully bastions of behavior beneficial only to Labor Unions, and their spawn.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: doom; gloom; poverty; unemployment
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Post your humble, but ALWAYS correct opinion on Labor Unions here. [ I am an equal opportunity opinion poster, so please post Pro-Union comments, IF YOU DARE ! ]
1 posted on 09/14/2011 7:40:36 AM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: Graewoulf
unions literally kill everything they touch.

Railroads
Steel
Autos
Manufacturing in general

Unions should be destroyed, ground into dust and their leaders imprisoned.

2 posted on 09/14/2011 7:43:20 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: Graewoulf

I would think a Mine Workers Union might be necessary.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 7:44:59 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: Graewoulf

Can America afford to allow ANY Labor Unions to legally exist. NO!!

More “crony Capitalism” at work. Unions get special benes from gov. thereby giving them an advantage over business and schools.


4 posted on 09/14/2011 7:45:05 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Graewoulf
My father was a union man, back when you could be beaten or worse for being pro union. By the time he retired, he hated them.

I was forced into union membership in my first job and it was not a good experience.

The good that unions COULD DO do and DID is done. NOW, unions are hide out for bad workers and an impediment to labor and prosperity.

What is worse, unions have consistently aligned themselves with the enemies of the United States and they have influenced (continue to influence) national politics in a way and to an extent that is out of all proportion to their actual numbers.

5 posted on 09/14/2011 7:47:34 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change. " Robert Anthony)
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To: Graewoulf

People have freedom of association and the right to enter into a contract. That said, people have freedom from association and freedom not to enter into a contract. Banning labor unions is unconstitutional... as is taking away one’s right to work or to enter into their own employment contracts.


6 posted on 09/14/2011 7:49:15 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Graewoulf

Unions are nothing more than legalized extortion against the job creators of America. They are enemies of the people. Unions need to be outlawed, fully investigated for illegal activities and the guilty within swiftly and severely punished.


7 posted on 09/14/2011 7:50:36 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Graewoulf

The phrase used by the big guy that “behind every economic catastrophe is a powerful union” was pulled from some writing I did I am proud to say - and lets you know how I answer this question.


8 posted on 09/14/2011 7:50:47 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: MetaThought

People who want to abolish labor unions really need to read a bit of history about the world before they existed and what prompted their creation.

I am NO fan of “big labor”, but I understand what unions really can do for the “little people”. Seriously.

That said, they need to be contained, just as businesses are to be contained if their power gets out of hand. And there is NO place for unions in government jobs. That really SHOULD be abolished.

I think making every state a “right to work” state would effectively cut union power down to something more manageble and “fair” to both sides.


9 posted on 09/14/2011 7:52:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Graewoulf

Unions were based on Marxism...still are.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 7:53:17 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You left out the “public” sector unions which have destroyed the educational system and have many cities and even states looking at huge deficits in their budgets due to union wages and benefits.


11 posted on 09/14/2011 7:57:19 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: SMARTY
By the time he retired, he hated them.

Similar story with my late father.

12 posted on 09/14/2011 7:58:48 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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Yes, but they should be prohibited from making political contributions or endorsing candidates. Issue adds only. All member dues are voluntary and they cannot force "union shops".

If being in the union provides value to the workers they will have no problem getting members. If not they will be quickly broken. And they are not part of the political process except tangentially.
13 posted on 09/14/2011 8:01:13 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SMARTY

“The good that unions COULD DO do and DID is done. NOW, unions are hide out for bad workers and an impediment to labor and prosperity.”

Bingo! I watched as the unions destroyed Pittsburgh in the late 60’s and 70’s. I think that’s when I became a Republican


14 posted on 09/14/2011 8:07:19 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: cuban leaf

I am NO fan of “big labor”, but I understand what unions really can do for the “little people”. Seriously.

This statement lends some degree of altruism to unions in general. I’m betting that right from the start, it was more an issue of what tens of thousands of “little people” could do for a union than the other way around.


15 posted on 09/14/2011 8:07:19 AM PDT by wita
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To: Graewoulf

I have had to deal with unions for a long time (I’m 65) and I have yet to find one that was anything other than a fundraising tool of organized crime. Period. End of discussion.


16 posted on 09/14/2011 8:07:19 AM PDT by Wordkraft
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To: Prokopton

Exactly correct.

ALL unions need to be made illegal. I’d put most union officers in prison where they’d feel at home.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 8:08:50 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Unions should be destroyed, ground into dust and their leaders imprisoned.

Yep. The concept is noble (honest days pay for an honest day’s work) but like anything else, man corrupts.


18 posted on 09/14/2011 8:10:52 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: wita

—I’m betting that right from the start, it was more an issue of what tens of thousands of “little people” could do for a union than the other way around.—

Well, I think it was both. Before unions, the “labor ready” concept was a fact of life for many americans in blue collar jobs. Every day you showed up to see if you were one of the ones picked that day. And the wages sucked because there were 500 guys standing there for 300 jobs and no minimum wage. They paid just enough to keep people from lashing out.

Unions gave people a steady job with a living wage. That is a good thing. But just like government or business, it can get too big and too powerful. That is what should be avoided. And just like business and government, it attracts people into leadership positions with less than honorable intentions.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 8:12:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Graewoulf

If workers who have not been indoctrinated or intimidated, and who are not public employees CHOOSE to unionize, that is their right. But Right to Work should be the law of the land.


20 posted on 09/14/2011 8:16:43 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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