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Democrat: Gov't Has No Contractual
Obligation to Pay Social Security Benefits
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| 9/14/11
| Matt Cover
Posted on 09/14/2011 2:38:29 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: KarlInOhio
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posted on
09/14/2011 2:56:31 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Due to the earthquake the president has officially implemented Rule 18-1.)
To: TomGuy
I strongly suggest that the Congressman is in error.I strongly suggest that you know not what about which you suggest.
The government legally owes you {and me } nothing.
The congress can pass, and the President can sign a law that ends social security today.
We could sue and scream and revolt, but the feds would owe you nothing.
22
posted on
09/14/2011 3:00:30 PM PDT
by
USS Alaska
(Nuke the terrorist savages.)
To: Nachum
Wait...is this guy a racist teabagger terrorist?!?!?!
Only those people would say something like that!!!
23
posted on
09/14/2011 3:00:50 PM PDT
by
VanDeKoik
(1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
To: Nachum
Then stop taking money out of paychecks for a non contractual program.
24
posted on
09/14/2011 3:02:19 PM PDT
by
shield
(Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
To: Nachum
FICA is a tax. Like ALL taxes to the feds, it goes into one revenue pool and is spent through Congressional appropriations and as the President sees fit.
There is no SocSec lock box. SocSec is not a right that can not be found in the Constitution. The govt owes you nothing.
25
posted on
09/14/2011 3:03:13 PM PDT
by
Reagan Man
("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
To: oneamericanvoice
No. You have to be 66 to get the max you are “entitled” to.
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posted on
09/14/2011 3:03:33 PM PDT
by
Bookwoman
("...and I am unanimous in this...")
To: xkaydet65
Any Congress and POTUS can end SS with one enactment and signature. Millions in the private sector literally live off SS, what the government confiscated from them over the course of their work histories...
This happens and I suggest the politicians campaign in armored cars, substantially beef up their security and consider walling off D.C.
27
posted on
09/14/2011 3:03:50 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: KarlInOhio
Congress could propose a law today stating: "The Social Security Act and all of its amendments are hereby repealsed." 218 Representatives, 51 Senators and the President could vote for it or sign it respectively and tomorrow there would be no more Social Security.
That would abrogate the 'full faith and credit' of the US Government.
It won't happen. Not now, not ever. Congress will -- eventually -- get around to fixing the most current problem(s) with SS/Medicare, even if just short term.
SS/Medicare makes a good scare-tactic weapon that has been used in elections for the last 4 decades.
28
posted on
09/14/2011 3:06:46 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Bookwoman
Actually it keeps going up to age 70.
66 is called the “Full Retirement Age” for boomer age folks.
To: Nachum
30
posted on
09/14/2011 3:08:08 PM PDT
by
Sergio
(An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
To: nascarnation
And to think, this Idiot is in Congress, Have Mercy..
31
posted on
09/14/2011 3:11:07 PM PDT
by
BooBoo1000
("IF YOU DON'T HOLD IT, YOU DON'T OWN IT" ( Wise old Gold Bug))
To: Nachum
Government does have a legal obligation to comply with the laws it has passed, SS being among those. Of course it can change laws, but until it does it is obligated to comply.
Contract has a very specific legal meaning. Not sure what this clown thinks he’s accomplished by speaking about SS in terms of contracts. Government does enter some contracts, but it’s not contractually obligated to carry on any of its basic functions. It’s not contractually obligated to maintain an armed forces, and the armed forces have varied greatly in size over the history of the US.
32
posted on
09/14/2011 3:15:44 PM PDT
by
Will88
To: Chode
in other words... It's just ANOTHER TAX then!!! I've had this conversation with a number of people in foreign countries who claim that American workers are taxed so minimally, we have nothing to complain about. When I mentioned that in addition to the federal, state, and local income taxes, we pay an additional 15% into FICA and Medicare, they all claimed, "well that doesn't count, because that's your retirement account."
No matter what I said, they refused to believe that this was nothing more than an additional tax going directly into the general fund, to be spent by the government, and there wasn't a penny with my name on it.
Unfortunately, too many Americans believe that too. I've been paying into this scam for 36 years now, and I don't believe that I'll ever see a penny of it back.
Mark
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posted on
09/14/2011 3:17:46 PM PDT
by
MarkL
(Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
To: ExTxMarine
Technical question: how do you change the fonts in your posts.
34
posted on
09/14/2011 3:18:04 PM PDT
by
Rumplemeyer
(The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
To: Nachum; wardaddy
Cooper has been a boil on our states butt for way too many years.
There is talk the state legislature is going to chop up his safe district.
He’s about as “Blue Dog” as Blues Clues and couldn’t find his brain if he shot himself in the head.
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posted on
09/14/2011 3:20:03 PM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(I reported myself @ AttackWatch.com)
To: Chode
Of course it is. I say eliminate the separate tax altogether, which only promotes a fiction, and fund it through general revenues, which is what happens anyway.
ELIMINATE THE SEPARATE WITHHOLDING.
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posted on
09/14/2011 3:21:32 PM PDT
by
Huck
(If you are in a union, then bow to your COMMIE masters.)
To: Nachum
I wonder if Warren Buffet collects Social Security - now that would make some headlines.
37
posted on
09/14/2011 3:28:50 PM PDT
by
PMAS
To: MarkL
i expect to get zilch also...
38
posted on
09/14/2011 3:31:59 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: Nachum
Ponzi scheme, pyramid scheme, chain letter, whatever. It’s legalized theft.
39
posted on
09/14/2011 3:32:27 PM PDT
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
To: beelzepug
** ... lumber and nails delivered down there on the mall. Were having a party!!**
Will we need lots of ROPE or just LONG NAILS??
40
posted on
09/14/2011 3:37:08 PM PDT
by
gwilhelm56
(islam ... Cult of the DAMNED!!!)
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