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Japan to Build New Helicopter Carrier
The Chosun Ilbo, South Korea ^ | Sep. 15, 2011

Posted on 09/15/2011 6:21:16 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: usmcobra

Two years? Do you mean that they could begin construction in two years or launch it in two years from laying it’s keel? If you mean launch it, I really have to wonder about that statement as it takes us on average around four years to build one and we’ve been building them since the Forrestal was launched back in the early 50’s. The Koreans have never built a carrier, much less a supercarrier so I don’t know about that two year time frame.


21 posted on 09/15/2011 8:38:00 AM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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To: paddles

If cancelling it would hurt the military, then look for Obama to cancel it.


22 posted on 09/15/2011 8:40:41 AM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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To: Avalon Hussar
Yes I do believe it would take them two years or even less.

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23 posted on 09/15/2011 9:27:53 AM PDT by usmcobra
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24 posted on 09/15/2011 1:40:23 PM PDT by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; skeeter

Enterprise is due to be retired soon. Why not give it to Japan...I’d be a superb platform, could pack a real punch, and Japan has ships that are compatible with a carriere task force. We could probably train Japanese crews in 6 months. I know that Enterprise is near the end of her useful life, but in the Japanese Navy, she wouldn’t have long extended deployments, and would be close to Japan for any repairs as needed..


25 posted on 09/15/2011 5:56:57 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: ken5050

Makes sense to me, but I doubt the Japanese government could sell a nuke carrier to their public, especially after the Fukushima #1 situation.


26 posted on 09/15/2011 6:01:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

We’ve homeported a CVN in Japan for years, IIRC..


27 posted on 09/15/2011 7:11:47 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: ken5050

As this article mentions the JMSDF has a strength of about 45K personnel. You would need approximately 5,000 men on a carrier like the Nimitz. Barring the US and probably China, no nation can afford such deployment of men without comprising other requirements. A ship the size of Britain’s proposed CVF class or France Charles De Gaulle would be better.


28 posted on 09/15/2011 8:37:25 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: ken5050

I know we’ve had a conventioannly powered carrier there, at least until 2008. Do we have a nuke in Yokusuka now?


29 posted on 09/16/2011 6:37:13 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Fully bowing to your expertise and knowledge...but I always understood that of the 5000 on a carrier..about 2000 were in the air wing..

So the crew requirements are 3000..and to deploy on board however many copters they choose, according to the threat..well thats thus transferrng existing assets...

It wouldn't be easy, but if any naval power could do it, the Japanese could..they could have the platform up and running in a few months..jointly crewed as the US sailor train Japanese on the job...and it would get the Chicoms attention..

30 posted on 09/16/2011 10:10:59 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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3,000 is still about 10 times as much as personnel as they deploy off their current Hyuga class baby-carriers. A navy needs to transition carefully before deploying so many men; which is why the Chinese appear to have taken so long to get the Varyag running.


31 posted on 09/16/2011 10:48:21 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: usmcobra; Avalon Hussar
usmcobra: "The Koreans (Hyundai heavy industries) could build a diesel powered super carrier in 2 years."

This is a key point which most Americans overlook.
We think everything is all about us, the US, versus in this case, China.

Well, it's not.
China has many other neighbors, all of whom will be vitally interested in China's growing military strength.
If they all work together, China could easily find that every military move it makes is soon matched not only by US counter-responses, but also responses from countries like Japan, Korea, India, Australia, Taiwan and others.

So, in what sense are China's long-term interests served by driving an arms race amongst countries throughout Asia?

32 posted on 09/16/2011 2:45:19 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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