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No apologies: Bachmann defends HPV remarks
CBS "News" ^ | 15 Sep 2011 | Sarah Huisenga

Posted on 09/16/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Michele Bachmann is on the defensive about comments she made earlier this week suggesting that a vaccine against a virus linked to cervical cancer poses a danger to young girls.

"During the debate, I didn't make any statements that would indicate that I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist or that I'm making any conclusions about the drug one way or another," the GOP presidential hopeful told reporters here who questioned her about the story she told suggesting that the vaccine had caused mental retardation. Asked whether she would apologize for comments that outraged medical experts say will discourage parents from getting their children immunized, Bachmann said: "Oh, I'm not going to answer that."

During the Republican debate Bachmann attacked her rival Rick Perry for mandating vaccinations against the human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV) for Texas school girls - a decision that the Texas legislature later overruled.

"To have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat out wrong," she said during the debate.

After the debate, Bachmann took her critique a step further, describing in several television interviews how a tearful mother had approached her after the debate saying that her daughter "suffered mental retardation" as a result of the vaccine.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiscience; antivax; bachmann; bachmann4romney; bachmannisaliar; captaingardasil; gardasil; hpv; perry; perrycare; rinorick; scaremonger
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To: South40

That is a very interesting perception. You absolutely correct in wondering why it seems so many conservatives(?) HERE, are knocking the more historical conservative candidate.

The congressmen was right about the vaccine. She is taking a very noble stand. It may hurt her, but Americans need to know.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/16/vaccine-wake-up-call-for-parents-your-children-are-being-taken.aspx?e_cid=20110916_DNL_art_1


81 posted on 09/16/2011 8:25:44 AM PDT by mazz44
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To: muawiyah
These are all important questions, but I'll repeat what I just said - none of this logically indicates that Gardasil causes either mental retardation or autism.

Every vaccine will have some side effects. It's a truism in pharmacology that every pharmaceutical agent will have side effects that go along with the beneficial effects. This is true, whether we're talking about Gardasil, penicillin, aspirin, or anything else. You can't put a foreign substance into your body without having things happen. The goal of pharmaceutics is to find compounds that maximise the beneficial effects while minimising the deleterious effects.

What evidence do you have that the reason Merck recommended that highly sensitive people not receive the vaccine was because it caused either mental retardation or autism? Maybe drug product recipients in the clinical trials DID get sudden intense headaches from Gardasil. That is a valid concern, and needs to be factored into whether Merck should be allowed to continue to sell Gardasil.

However, "sudden intense headaches" is not the same thing as "mental retardation." One side effect does not suggest the presence of all the other possible side effects that could possibly exist when foreign substances are put into the human body.

82 posted on 09/16/2011 8:26:21 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

She lost me with her behavior during and right after that debate.


83 posted on 09/16/2011 8:26:39 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: ari-freedom

“She should say “I don’t know. Let me ask a real doctor and I will give you an informed response.”

So only doctors should have a say on public policy? Perhaps you’d just let the AMA write laws and bypass Congress and the President.


84 posted on 09/16/2011 8:26:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Williams

“While it’s an interesting issue, I think this HPV thing is the first time some conservatives really are acting anti-science. It’s not a religious issue, and I strongly suspect fighting the virus that causes cervical cancer is a good thing.”

Yes it is. Some people think that a teen who has pre-marital sex should die from cancer and/or other STD’s for her sins.


85 posted on 09/16/2011 8:26:59 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Thank you, Bob!)
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To: South40

Michelle has proven time again...

she runs with “untested” sound bites and then when caught with a defective sound bite...she doubles down...with the defect

at first I was open to her ideas...she has since proven to be a joke...

put a fork in her...she is toast...washed up...

a foolish woman...


86 posted on 09/16/2011 8:27:14 AM PDT by antivenom (visit SBPDL.com and at least read what you and the liberal media are too afraid to say)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Are you one that thinks this vaccine causes Mental Retardation in children?

Actually I have no opinion on it and can't be distracted by it.
87 posted on 09/16/2011 8:27:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: driftdiver
I assumed you borrowed it from your hero, Justin Beiber.

I tried to, but he said he had a hot date with some guy named Drift Diver, and needed it.

88 posted on 09/16/2011 8:28:59 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Mase

“Yeah, that $6,000 made all the difference in a campaign costing $30 million. How would he have ever survived and been reelected without it? “

You’re forgetting the rest of the money either that or just a liar.


89 posted on 09/16/2011 8:28:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Hey 500 per post . Wow I have redo my contract !


90 posted on 09/16/2011 8:29:32 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: driftdiver

“So only doctors should have a say on public policy? Perhaps you’d just let the AMA write laws and bypass Congress and the President.”

No, we’ll let Suzanne Somers have a say instead. /sarc


91 posted on 09/16/2011 8:29:32 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Thank you, Bob!)
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To: thackney
-- How many people die each year in the US due to flu? --

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

An August 27, 2010 MMWR report entitled "Estimates of Deaths Associated with Seasonal Influenza - United States, 1976-2007," provides updated estimates of the range of flu-associated deaths that occurred in the United States during the three decades prior to 2007. CDC estimates that from the 1976-1977 season to the 2006-2007 flu season, flu-associated deaths ranged from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people. ...

The 36,000 estimate was presented in a 2003 study by CDC scientists published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), using similar statistical modeling techniques, but only refers to a period from 1990-91 through 1998-99. During those years, the number of estimated deaths ranged from 17,000 to 52,000, with an average of about 36,000. The JAMA study also looked at seasonal influenza-associated deaths over a 23 year period, from 1976-1977 and 1998-1999. During that period, estimates of respiratory and circulatory influenza-associated deaths ranged from about 5,000 to about 52,000, with an average of about 25,000. While the 36,000 number is often cited, it's important to note that during that decade, influenza A (H3N2) was the predominant virus during most of the seasons, and H3N2 influenza viruses are typically associated with higher death rates. CDC believes that the range of deaths over the past 31 years (~3,000 to ~49,000) is a more accurate representation of the unpredictability and variability of flu-associated deaths.


92 posted on 09/16/2011 8:30:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

A brilliant conservative woman who SHOULD be President of the United States. I love the fact that she sticks to her principles no matter what. She would definitely be a boon the Presidency. I love the fact that she would fight tooth and nail to get rid of Obamacare. I think she would work harder than the others because it is her passion of hers and she knows that the President has ONE year, 2013 to get rid of it or we are stuck with it forever. Nobody seems to be concerned with that fact at all. In all this discussion, she has said it many times, but nobody is listening to that.


93 posted on 09/16/2011 8:30:57 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Williams
-- BTW they didn't approve it for boys but it likely prevents other cancers as well, and all would do well not to carry this virus. --

Gardasil is FDA approved for boys since late 2009.

94 posted on 09/16/2011 8:31:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ari-freedom

Nuff said, you probably think men shouldn’t have a vote on issues like abortion.


95 posted on 09/16/2011 8:31:54 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: napscoordinator
I love the fact that she sticks to her principles no matter what.

That's fine, but what happens when your principles include shooting your mouth off about uninformed, medically-unproven links to diseases that you got from some yahoo in your viewing audience?

96 posted on 09/16/2011 8:33:06 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: ari-freedom

[She should say “I don’t know. Let me ask a real doctor and I will give you an informed response.”]

She could say, I’ll ask Ron Paul and get back to you on that! ;-)


97 posted on 09/16/2011 8:33:10 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: napscoordinator; ari-freedom

“I love the fact that she would fight tooth and nail to get rid of Obamacare.”

What a concept! According to some posters here only doctors should have any input on things like Obamacare.


98 posted on 09/16/2011 8:33:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
You’re forgetting the rest of the money either that or just a liar.

I see you're an equal opportunity offender. Great.

The rest of the money? What is that, exactly?

99 posted on 09/16/2011 8:35:04 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

However, it can cause seizures and bad seizures can cause brain damage and even death. It also can also cause Guillain-Barré syndrome.

http://cervical-cancer.emedtv.com/gardasil/gardasil-side-effects-p2.html


100 posted on 09/16/2011 8:35:46 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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