Posted on 09/18/2011 6:31:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
“Deny the evidence at your own risk.”
Those stories, even if true, are evidence of nothing.
“and some could easily be confused with mental retardation”
So the woman who told Bachmann that could easily feel that her daughter had mental retardation.
Plus, Perry supporters, and the lib media, are claiming that Bachmann originated the woman’s comment, when she simply repeated what the woman said.
“To be fair you should also post the number of deaths related to the cancer the vaccine is intended to reduce.”
Now you’re changing the subject. The point is what the woman told Bachmann is certainly plausible, to say the least.
“They are a sad, sick bunch.”
Some Perry supporters seem to be taking on a lib personality, complete with half-truths, lies, spin, mean-spiritness and tasteless humor.
They attack anybody who hurts their guy.
“PERRY: No, sir it wasn’t. It was very clear. It had an opt-out. And at the end of the day, this was about trying to stop a cancer and giving the parental option to opt out of that.”
Bachmann said there should be an opt-IN, not an opt-out, and she is correct. Parents shouldn’t have to go through the red tape.
“Opting-Out” of HPV Vaccine WILL NOT WORK for Many in Texas”
snip http://www.aapsonline.org/vaccines/txoptout.php
“If you are looking for anything that is absolutely 100% safe, MulberryDraw, even driving to Church on Sunday, you will not find it on the Planet Earth.”
I think you miss the point. It shows that the woman’s daughter certainly could have had something like retardation, because it HAS happened after Gardisil injections before, and is on record.
Anyway, Bachmann just repeated what the woman told her, and it was certainly very plausible.
Michele Bachmann is a decent conservative woman. Her views are generally in concert with most FR members.
But, as I’ve noted on numerous occasions, she is not ready for prime time. Her biggest problem is her inability to come out on top in interviews, the Leno example being the latest (failure to take the offensive). Her second biggest problem is that she is one dimensional - “one term President”, “repeal ObamaCare”, “25 kids”, “tax lawyer” are repeated ad infinitum.
Of course she smoked Perry on the Gardasil business during the debate, but like him, she had to add an anecdote about the non-verified or verifiable child with adverse reactions. Santorum hopped on her lead but he stayed on track. Perry screwed that answer and the wetback answer up big time.
I feel sad for Bachmann because she stands tall for conservative values, but she would get clobbered in this mediacentric political world.
If he continues on his current path, Perry is not far behind. His debate performance to date has been close to abysmal.
The worst is the attempt at humor. Hatred and humor are antithetical. Anger, certainly, but never hatred.
What is Palin’s view of Gardasil? Has she spoken to that?
I am a Palin fan but I am disturbed by the efforts of her supporters to destroy everyone else!
Palin Interview - Sept 12, 2011
VanSusteren: ... [Bachmann] said that the reason that Governor Perry said it, or she suggested it strongly, was because of a campaign contribution, that someone in his office or a prior employee went to work for the drug manufacturer. ...PALIN: Well, someone? That someone, as Michele Bachmann pointed out, was Governor Perry's former chief of staff, who then went to work for a drug company who made the drug that would be required of the Texan government to mandate that, that our young daughters would have to be inoculated against potential disease from the company that his former chief of staff was lobbying for. That's crony capitalism.
That's part of the problem that we have in this country, is that people are afraid, even within our own party, to call one another out on that.
True reform and fighting the corruption and fighting the crony capitalism is a tough thing to do within your own party. You have to go up against the big guns. And they will try to destroy you when you call them out on the mistakes that they have made. Believe me, I know that. I have the bumps and the bruises to prove it because that's what I have been doing for the last 20 years, local, state, and then on the VP trail, at different levels of government, calling out the corruption in government.
Michele Bachmann tried to make that point tonight. And watch, she's going to get -- potentially, she's going to get crucified by some in the party who say, "Don't, you know, don't' violate Reagan's 11th Commandment" and don't call somebody out in your own party on something like that.
Well, no, we have to call one another out on things that have led to the crony capitalism, to the favors, to the back door dealings that have led to, on a state and a federal level, this distrust of government. We the people have great distrust of our federal government, especially right now because we see these things that go on, and people seem too afraid to call one another out on them. How are we ever going to reform the system and be able to restore what's good and fair and right about America unless we do hold one another accountable? That's what Michele was trying to do. ...
Let me go back to that issue with Governor Perry. I was governor of Alaska at the time that that issue came down, and I told our health and human services department Alaska was not going to mandate immunizations for our teenage daughters.
And there had to have been something to that whole issue because it just didn't sound like Governor Perry. Governor Perry was, you know, the proverbial anti-government type of maverick there in Texas, and yet on this issue, he decided that he was going to know better than a parent was going to know in terms of what the health care or health benefit would be for their teenage daughters. So I knew there was something to it.
And remember when the media went a little bit crazy and demanded to see my 25,000 e-mails that I had written during my term as governor. In those e-mails, there is proof of there that the issue arose while I was governor of Alaska. And the e-mails reflect my -- my principle there was, No, government, stay out of the lives of family decisions like that, and do not tell a parent that their daughter must be immunized.
So we know. I knew even at that time something was up with that issue, and now we're finding that, yes, something was up with that issue. And it was a -- it was kind of an illustration or a big of evidence of some crony capitalism.
Thanks for the information. I had heard bits and pieces here and there but what you posted clarified everything.
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