California schools to turn away children without whooping cough vaccine

Daily Mail ^ | 1:08 AM on 18th September 2011 | By Associated Press

[Niuhuru]

Some California schools are turning away middle and high school students who have not received a required whooping cough vaccine while others are defying a law passed last year after a historic spike in cases of the potentially fatal disease.

The law approved last September initially required all students entering grades seven through 12 to get vaccinated by the start of the 2011-2012 school year.

Lawmakers passed a 30-day extension this summer as districts worried many students wouldn't meet the deadline.

[cripplecreek]

Apparently nanny state liberalism is contagious because I’m seeing a lot of it around here lately.

Apparently principles are the only vaccination against it.

[grumpygresh]

Don’t worry, that’s happening anyways in CA for kids on Medi-CAL. Since doctors are only getting $12 for an office visit with similar abysmally low fees for everything else, doctors are not taking these patients. They can stay home and get a holistic cure or whatever.

[ari-freedom]

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/what_cdc_is_doing/qa.htm

How do HPV-associated cancer incidence rates differ by geographic region

During 1998–2003, incidence rates of HPV-associated cancers varied appreciably by state. Rates of cervical cancer, for example, were at least 10.0 per 100,000 women in the District of Columbia, Florida, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, West Virginia, Arkansas and Texas; rates were below 7.0 per 100,000 women in Idaho, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Utah.1

For five states in Appalachia combined (Alabama, Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia), invasive cervical cancer incidence rates were higher in the Appalachian areas than non-Appalachian areas. Rates were also higher in rural compared to urban areas of the states.10

Along the U.S. Mexico border in 1998–2003, invasive cervical cancer incidence rates were twice as high among Hispanic women as non-Hispanic women in border counties. Hispanic women in border states had higher rates compared to Hispanic women in non-border states

[Jedidah]

There’s a difference between required vaccinations for easily-communicable diseases like whooping cough and polio, versus shots against a sexually-transmitted disease that is spread by bad behavior.

That’s why Perry got in such trouble over the gardisil issue.

[cripplecreek]

Chicken pox and the flu are potentially fatal. Should we be forced to accept vaccines for them too?

[Wallop the Cat]

Sex is “bad behavior?” Who knew.

[ari-freedom]

“versus shots against a sexually-transmitted disease that is spread by bad behavior.”

Say that to all the guilty/not guilty sex-with-the-teacher threads here on FR :/

[SaraJohnson]

My kid had a serious reaction to that shot. The doc did not give him more of it.

It is easy to just make up your own shot records and bypass the control freaks. As the left takes more and more control of our lives, Americans will learn to get around it like the Soviets did.

[Cboldt]

HPV is the most common sexually transmitted disease in the United States. Today, approximately 20 million people in the nation are infected, including one in four 15 to 24 year olds. Certain strains of HPV cause most cases of cervical cancer. Texas has the second highest number of women suffering from this devastating disease in the nation.

Governor Perry - Feb 2, 2007

No statistics in hand. Doesn't really matter to me, but if a rate of infection is higher in one state, that fact augurs in favor of using state force to compel individuals to act for the common good.

[thackney]

Thank you.

I also found the following.

Color on Map	Interval	States
Light green	4.5 to 6.2	Alaska, Idaho, Iowa, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming
Medium green	6.3 to 7.5	Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, and Rhode Island
Medium blue	7.6 to 8.4	California, Georgia, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Tennessee
Dark blue	8.5 to 11.2	Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia
Light Grey	Did not meet USCS data quality criteria	Nevada
	Rates were suppressed*	North Dakota and Vermont

While you are correct that Texas is higher than the national average, this is hardly a Texas only or Border State Only issue.

[thackney]

Link for map and table above:

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/cervical/statistics/state.htm

[calex59]

Bad BMIs are not communicable. If my kid sits next to a fat kid, obesity is not likely to jump on him. Unlike measles, mumps, polio, whooping cough, etc.

And if your kid is vaccinated, exactly how does sitting next to someone who hasn't been vaccinated and becomes infected harm your child? Your child is immune because they have been vaccinated. Stupidity on this forum abounds. I guess because you feel obliged to obey nanny state laws you think they should force everyone at the point of a gun. BTW, I am all for vaccinations, my daughter had them all, I grew up when about the only vaccination was for small pox and then when I was in HS the polio vaccine came along. I caught all the child hood diseases, so did my brother and most of the kids we know, so I believe in them. However, I still think parents should have control over the lives of their children. If they want to opt out so be it. It isn't hurting the ones who do get vaccinated.

Either you believe that vaccinations work or you don't. If they don't work and you believe some unvaccinated child will infect your child what is the good of having them?

Use your brains people, vaccinations work, therefore your children are safe from the "horrible" children who are not vaccinated.

[Yaelle]

Apparently the vaccine doesn’t work for very long, if it works at all. That is why they want all middle and high schoolers to get the shot.

The babies who died were too young to get the shot. Many of the older kids had been vaccinated but the immunity didn’t last.

[Jedidah]

Varicella (for chicken pox) is required here in Texas.

http://dallas.about.com/od/governmentlocalissues/a/VaccinationsTX.htm

Varicella also causes shingles in adults. These kids won’t have to deal with that, either, which is a very good thing.

Flu strains vary from year to year, a continual menace. There is no true vaccine, and the yearly shot is a guesstimate.

You’ll note that Perry only got in trouble over a vaccine that assumes young girls will engage in slutty behavior.

[depressed in 06]

Unless, they are illegals, then it is OK.

[thackney]

has the second highest number of women suffering from this devastating disease

Texas also has the second highest population in the US.

But there was some validity to the claim of Texas having a higher rate, see maps and other posts above.

It is worse in general terms in the south, but I don't think illegal immigration is a major factor in Kentucky and West Virginia.

[newzjunkey]

Fact is, the children do not need the shots if the parents sign a form they oppose vaccinations.

Fact is, the children still need the shots. These diseases won't care what the parents think.

There's a kindergarten, Oasis Community, in Encinitas (San Diego County) with over 83% vaccinewaivers. Many more area kindergartens have one-third to one-half of students without vaccines. This is below the threshold needed to preserve the herd immunity benefit of vaccination.

We can thank the likes of Jenny McCarthy and Oprah Winfrey for this regressive movement.

[Jedidah]

Well, yes, if you’re 12. Which is what the Texas issue was all about.

[dangerdoc]

You are incorrect, depending on the vaccice, your child may still have a 1 in 5 chance of developing a disease they have been vaccinated for, that risk may drop to 1 in 10,000 or less if the children he goes to school with are vaccinared.

[SoftballMominVA]

No, they shouldn’t, not if they don’t want to. Let’s assume your children are vaccinated. What harm does it do them then if other children are not? It does no harm. Laws should not force us to vaccinate our children or make them wear rain coats and over shoes, which would fall in the same category. Some children not being vaccinated will not harm the ones who are. Stop the frickin’ nanny state crap.

I'll tell you why it matters....My younger daughter was not able to complete her DPT vaccinations because of a severe reaction to the first one. So, she only received one dose of the vaccination that protected her from Whooping Cough. At the time, the doctor warned me that she would have only minimal protection from whooping cough, but it wasn't a huge concern since most people have that vaccine.

Flash forward 15 years and she actually caught the whooping cough and was quite ill. So yeah, some kids not being vaccinated CAN and DOES hurt other kids.