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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lol. I knew someone would say that. Are you serious? If you listen to the birthers, no, he’s not a natural born citizen. If you listen to the Constitution, the Heritage Society, and precedence, yes, he’s a natural born citizen because he was born in this country and not naturalized. Naturalized citizens can be senators, but not presidents. A president must be born here. The Constitution says nothing about a natural-born citizen having to have parents that were also citizens at the time of the child’s birth. Obviously the GOP wouldn’t be on fire with anticipation for Rubio as VP if he wasn’t eligible.


4 posted on 09/19/2011 8:56:11 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

I don’t think YOU are listening to precedence.

NBC are persons born on the soil of two citizen parents.

By your definition, any Mexican women can sneak across the border in the last minutes of pregnancy having never set foot in the United States and not knowing a single word of english and most importantly not owing ANY allegience to the United States, have her baby and THAT baby is elidgible to be President of the United States!

Ya right. I don’t think that’s what the founders intended when the contitutional requirment was written.


7 posted on 09/19/2011 9:07:55 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: DRey
"The Constitution says nothing about a natural-born citizen having to have parents that were also citizens at the time of the child’s birth."

I thought I read a definitive article here a while back that said Rubio could not qualify for POTUS.

I hope your explanation is correct. I love everything about him.

9 posted on 09/19/2011 9:10:36 AM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: DRey
To be eligible for the Presidency there is no requirement that a person be “born here” only that they be born a citizen (thus a natural born citizen) rather than being naturalized.

McCain, for example, is a natural born citizen.

He would be a natural born citizen according to Vattel - who said that a child born of a soldier overseas was deemed born in country for such purposes.

He would be a natural born citizen according to the first Naturalization act of 1780 that held that the children born to a US citizen father born overseas were natural born citizens.

He would be a natural born citizen according to current US law and the US Constitution - which only has two subdivisions of US citizens based upon the way citizenship was acquired - either you were born a citizen and are thus natural born - or one had to be “naturalized”.

Not a big quibble, but being born here is not the requirement, being born a US citizen is.

Rubio was born a US citizen. He is not a naturalized citizen. Thus he is eligible for the Presidency or the Vice Presidency - all birther lunacy to the contrary aside.

12 posted on 09/19/2011 9:16:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: DRey
The Constitution says nothing about a natural-born citizen having to have parents that were also citizens at the time of the child’s birth.

The reason the Constitution stipulates natural-born as opposed to native-born(which Rubio is) is because the founders did not want any first generation Americans who may have had parents fresh off the boat from England filling their young thoughts with the greatness of England and subsequently growing up to become to become a POTUS with divided allegiances. They wanted second generation Americans who grew up with an unencumbered love for America. Yeah, natural born means having parents who were born here, too.

14 posted on 09/19/2011 9:19:23 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: DRey
Au contraire!

The constitution requires the president to be a “Natural Born Citizen” and the 12th amendment requires the vice president to meet the same exact requirements.

“Natural Born Citizen” meaning was known to the founders and everyone else at the time, just like we all knew what the meaning of “is” was until Bill Clinton came along. The supreme court has addressed this issue in several opinions and the meaning is clear. Born in the United States to two United States citizens. There is so much info on this here at FR that there is no excuse for you to be so misinformed.

U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 12

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

19 posted on 09/19/2011 9:35:10 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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