Posted on 09/19/2011 12:56:16 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
NEW YORK - Rick Perry, on a two-day swing to raise campaign funds here, also appears to be hoping to rob the Democrats of votes.
The Republican presidential candidate is scheduled to meet Monday afternoon in Harlem with Hispanic leaders.
Some members of the Hispanic community have been disenchanted with President Obama because he has failed to deliver on his promise to enact a sweeping immigration reform bill.
While none of the Republican presidential hopefuls has expressed support for giving some of the estimated 11 million people now living in the U.S. illegally a path to citizenship, Perry has broken with Republican conservative orthodoxy on immigration.
The Texas governor opposes extending the fence along the U.S.-Mexico border as impractical, and has backed offering in-state tuition to students in his state who were brought to the country illegally by their parents.
On Tuesday, Perry has scheduled a morning press conference to express support for Israel ahead of a speech Friday by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the United Nations, where he is expected to seek full U.N. membership for the Palestinian Authority. Israel opposes the recognition.
President Obama is also opposing the Palestinian request, but his support for a Palestinian state, based on Israel returning some of the land it acquired after the 1967 war with its Arab neighbors, has aroused strong opposition among conservatives and became an issue in a New York City special congressional election which Republican Bob Turner won last week in an upset.
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Worth repeating.
Illegals aren’t welcome and with Perry’s history of pandering to illegals what do you expect people’s first thought to be?
But when you have a president who doesn’t care about the problem or seems to not even see it as a problem there isn’t much we can do. The Republican nominee will more than likely not be any better on this issue than Obama. I was hoping we could finally nominate a Republican with a strong stance against illegal immigration, but we are probably getting a guy with a history of pandering to illegals.
We could nominate a candidate who agreed with me on every single issue except illegal immigration and I don’t think I could vote for them this time around. The issue is way to important to be ignored and never talked about with serious steps to stopping the invasion. We need to solve the problem, but our party is only concerned with trying to win the votes of these illegals who they must expect are voting or will be soon when they are made legal.
I do not agree that Gov. Perry has pander to or encouraged illegal immigration, or that a White House he would lead would either.
“Excuse me, but there are Americans of hispanic descent. My husband is one of them. Born and raised in the good old USA - parents from Puerto Rico. He’s as conservative as they come and totally against illegal Mexican immigration. You can’t paint all hispanics with a broad brush.”
Thank You. My husband is of hispanic descent also.
One of his ancestors was one of the signers of the Texas Declaration of Independence.
SOME of the land???
0 wants Israel to return to the 1967 border. That means ALL of the land.
From the article (the third sentence): "Some members of the Hispanic community have been disenchanted with President Obama because he has failed to deliver on his promise to enact a sweeping immigration reform bill. "
Okay, show me one politician to whom "immigration reform" is NOT about hispanics?
Do you think they'd be clamoring for "reform" if there were 11 million illegals from Europe?
I will take Rick Perry’s stand on Israel any day over the wedge Obama has tried to insert between America and Israel.
Governor Rick Perry upon his trip to Israel in 2009
From: http://corridornews.blogspot.com/2009/08/world-acording-to-rick-perry-israel-is.html
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Gov. Perry went on to describe his support for Israel from a religious point of view, saying, “I’m a big believer that this country was given to the people of Israel a long time ago, by God, and that’s ordained.”
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I will not mind a Texan back in the WH so long as he is to the right of W. Perry appears to be at least that.
newz replies: Worth repeating.
If I were "Hispanic" -- my grandfather certainly was -- and conservative, the fact that I was "Hispanic" would have no more bearing on my politics than the fact that I have red hair: ZERO. Zilch. Nada. Null.
tumblin, you asked earlier about the dif between "hispanic" and "la raza," and milagro (like you, I REALLY loved livius' story about the Dominicans and the park! Now THAT is an American immigrant story that makes me smile!) -- milagro, maybe you have interesting input on this.
My personal experience with members of La Raza, interviewing the organization's officials years ago for a story I was writing, was cut and dried and made perfect, disgusting sense:
The terms "hispanic" and "latino" have roots in the words Spain and Latin. Spain is a European nation peopled by caucasians. Latin is an ancient language that is the base for languages such as Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and French. The term "latino" and "hispanic," as we use them in America today, mean "brown-skinned people descended from lands conquered by Spain and Portugal in what we now call Mexico and South America."
That really ticked the La Raza crowd off, realizing that the labels "hispanic" and "latino" being applied to them were wholly based on European conquerers. So they started "La Raza" -- Spanish for "The Race." La Raza is completely a racist organization -- "brown" folks only may apply.
Meanwhile, hospitals have "special outreach" program for the "hispanic community" and such nonsense. My blue-eyed, blond-haired English-only 100 percent California niece, whose last name is Lopez (her European-blood-line South American father) would present herself as "latina" and be laughed out of the room, while my great-great grandfather (my great-grandmother's father) would be called "hispanic" today, though he was about 75 percent pure indigenous Sonora (Mexico) Indian, the other 25 percent being the English sailor who settled in Mexico and began that branch of the family.
I'm always disgusted when a politician addresses any "ethnic" community as if "they" are any different than me, but even more, as if "they" consider themselves and their needs any different than mine. But it seems to be a necessity in politics.
I wrote a story about a woman who, before women's lib, earned a degree in architecture and worked her way to the tippy-top of a major architectural hierarchy, totally male-dominated. My editor wanted me to be sure to ask her: What women's architectural organizations did she belong to? When she gave me her answer, I could have kissed her. She said:
"None. I belong to several architectural organizations, but I've never been interested in groups for women in architecture. To me, there's really only one question: are you a professional?"
What does it matter if a citizen is black, white, brown, yellow, red, or polka-dot (me!)? There's really only one question: are you an American?
AMEN!!!!
I apologize if I misunderstood your post. But the information was good so no harm.
You're asking about a guest worker program?
I don't think anyone has a problem with that.
The road situation on that? If you know of something -- let me know.
Indeed!
Perry made good on that promise in July, when a cohort of liberal activists boarded a Gaza-bound aid boat with the goal of breaching Israel's maritime blockade of the Gaza strip.<<<…………..
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".....Ainsman, a prominent Democratic lawyer and Pittsburgh Jewish community leader, was trying to explain that Obama had just been offering Israel a bit of “tough love” in his May 19 speech on the Arab Spring. His friends disagreed — to say the least.
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“When Obama was running, there was a lot of concern among the guys in my group at shul, who are all late-30s to mid-40s, who I hang out with and daven with and go to dinner with, about Obama,” recalled Scott Matasar, a Cleveland lawyer who’s active in Jewish organizations.
Matasar remembers his friends’ worries over whether Obama was “going to be OK for Israel.” But then Obama met with the community’s leaders during a swing through Cleveland in the primary, and the rabbi at the denominationally conservative synagogue Matasar attends — “a real ardent Zionist and Israel defender” — came back to synagogue convinced.
“That put a lot of my concerns to rest for my friends who are very much Israel hawks but who, like me, aren’t one-issue voters.”
Now Matasar says he’s appalled by Obama’s “rookie mistakes and bumbling” and the reported marginalization of a veteran peace negotiator, Dennis Ross, in favor of aides who back a tougher line on Netanyahu. He’s the most pro-Obama member of his social circle but is finding the president harder to defend.
“He’d been very ham-handed in the way he presented [the 1967 border announcement] and the way he sprung this on Netanyahu,” Matasar said.
A Philadelphia Democrat and pro-Israel activist, Joe Wolfson, recalled a similar progression.
“What got me past Obama in the recent election was Dennis Ross — I heard him speak in Philadelphia and I had many of my concerns allayed,” Wolfson said. “Now, I think I’m like many pro-Israel Democrats now who are looking to see whether we can vote Republican.”.............. -- Jewish Dems losing faith in Obama
Gosh, so glad to hear it! I assumed from you screen name that you are what would be classified “latino,” which is why I pinged you to my post — thought maybe you’d have a take closer to home, as it were! Me, I’m just a freckled (polka dot!) Whitey Northern-European type.
LOL... Me too. I'm a mutt -- with freckles.
I also see Perry as part of the problem, a HUGE part. Bob
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