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Greenwood cops want to get rid of machine pistols
Chicago Tribune ^ | 20 Sept 2011 | AP Story

Posted on 09/21/2011 10:08:59 AM PDT by smokingfrog

GREENWOOD, Ind.— Police in a suburb just south of Indianapolis are trying to decide what to do with six new fully automatic handguns the chief doesn't want.

The Daily Journal reports ( http://bit.ly/o5mbjQ )officials at the Greenwood Police Department don't know who ordered the Glock machine pistols. The guns can fire 33 bullets in seconds with a single trigger pull. Police Chief Rick McQueary says they're too dangerous to use for officers who must carefully consider every shot.

McQueary is refusing to pay for the guns because it's not clear why they were shipped to the department in the first place.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: banglist; glock
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To: Melas

The Gunny is awesome when firing full auto. Glad he was on
our side.


21 posted on 09/21/2011 10:33:37 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: from occupied ga

Type 3 Permit will allow a civilian to have full auto regardless of when manufactured.


22 posted on 09/21/2011 10:35:41 AM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: from occupied ga

Type 3 Permit will allow a civilian to have full auto regardless of when manufactured.


23 posted on 09/21/2011 10:35:48 AM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: weps4ret
Better aim low, really low for the first round, after that muzzle climb will give you, maybe to hits. The rest, who knows.

I've seen youtube clips of Glocks running full auto both with and without detachable shoulder stocks (SBR?). They do not appear to be that hard to hold on target even w/o the stock. I saw one clip with a guy firing two at once and keeping them both straight and level. But like all full auto pistols, they don't seem to fill a need except to burn up excess ammo.

Regards,
GtG

24 posted on 09/21/2011 10:36:33 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: smokingfrog

Good video about the Glock 18: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHdHuSuUI3s


25 posted on 09/21/2011 10:37:26 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Bryanw92

As a purchaser and user of Glock 33 round mags in 9mm and 31 round in 40S&W, I am aware of the Glock 18 though never shot one. I use the Glock mags in Kel Tec Sub 2000 versions. The Glock 9mm handgun in full auto wouldn’t be hard to control, but the 40 S&W might be.


26 posted on 09/21/2011 10:37:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: smokingfrog
"...officials at the Greenwood Police Department don't know who ordered the Glock machine pistols."

Some police department.

27 posted on 09/21/2011 10:43:56 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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To: agere_contra
Awh man. Operation GunWalker strikes again.

Postal codes in Mexico are issued by SEPOMEX (Servicio Postal Mexicano). They are of five digits and modelled on the US zip code system. The first 2 digits identify a state (or part thereof); and assignments are done alphabetically by state name,

Some one at Glock or at BATF put the 46142 zip code on the shipment, but put USA rather than Mexico on the shipment.

All the police chief has to do is write Mexico on the package and the problem is corrected.

28 posted on 09/21/2011 10:44:37 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: smokingfrog

Proficiency with automatic weapons requires many more hours of range work—work that most people won’t do. Otherwise, automatic weapons (especially short-barreled ones) are practically useless. Even with the required training, they’re only good for very close range work. Work is the key word, and lots of it. Shotguns can be better for that in most cases. Automatic weapons in urban or suburban environments nowadays would be more dangerous to bystanders than bad guys.


29 posted on 09/21/2011 10:52:24 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), Army NG, '89-' 96)
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To: RitchieAprile

30 posted on 09/21/2011 10:54:01 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

BTW, the only uses that I’ve seen for automatic weapons are those of clearing buildings (killing everything in each room) and jungle warfare.


31 posted on 09/21/2011 10:54:50 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), Army NG, '89-' 96)
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To: imjimbo
Type 3 Permit ...

I believe I mentioned dealers, which along with manufacturers is what a class three permit is for. And my memory may be faulty on the amount ($500 or $2500 annually), but these is a hefty annual fee associated with a class III license. Along with unannounced inspections by the BATF.

32 posted on 09/21/2011 11:02:08 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: smokingfrog

Can any nitwit in the police department order an automatic weapon or does the individual have to have FFL and do officers need an FFL?


33 posted on 09/21/2011 11:10:54 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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To: smokingfrog

Can any nitwit in the police department order an automatic weapon or does the individual have to have FFL and do officers need an FFL?


34 posted on 09/21/2011 11:11:11 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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To: ZULU
Didn’t some generals say the same thing about repeating rifles when they first came out?

Primary concern in that case was ammunition consumption, although marksmanship advocates - "one shot one kill" - did have some influence, claiming repeaters would encourage what amounts to recon by fire.

In this case, I think the chief is rightfully concerned about collateral damage.

35 posted on 09/21/2011 11:28:57 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: smokingfrog

I’ve fired the Glock 18 and while it’s “controllable” for a military weapon, it is definitely NOT controllable for a police weapon. Cops don’t get to use suppressive fire.

It was stupid of them to buy them in the first place, but I suspect there was a gun-loving officer who just wanted some for range play.


36 posted on 09/21/2011 11:37:00 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Bryanw92

Not to mention the drop-in backplate that will allow you to switch to a FA Glock in seconds.


37 posted on 09/21/2011 11:38:31 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: smokingfrog

Ooh...ooh...ME!


38 posted on 09/21/2011 11:43:02 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: smokingfrog

Looks like fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qwXO-KTVxk


39 posted on 09/21/2011 11:48:35 AM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: School of Rational Thought
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html

I'm guessing that LEO would already have gone through the FBI background check? Seems like just about any LEO could buy one, but not sure if they would still have to pay the tax like everyone else. State firearms laws may still apply.

40 posted on 09/21/2011 11:55:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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