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Perry’s collapse makes way for Christie and others?
WAPO ^ | 09/23/11 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 09/23/2011 8:45:07 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper

Yesterday I wrote a vignette in jest suggesting what New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie might be yelling at his TV during the GOP debate. Unlike his alter-ego in my vignette, the real Bill Kristol did not call Christie to plead nor drive over to his house to urge him to get into the race. Instead he used his Web site , figuratively speaking, to run over Texas Gov. Rick Perry with an 18-wheeler and drive through Christie’s living room window:

With nine candidates on the stage, and answers restricted to one minute, it’s hard to really show your stuff. And two of the candidate — Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney — did provide respectable performances. But no front-runner in a presidential field has ever, we imagine, had as weak a showing as Rick Perry. It was close to a disqualifying two hours for him. Bill’s solution: “A big man for a big job.” And you know who that is.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: chrischristie; christie; gayjudgeappointer; gungrabber; mittromney; muslimjudgeappointer; newjersey; palin; perry; perry2012; pigpile; rickperry; ricksantorum; rino; sarahpalin; texas; themorethemerrier
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Wait....u told Palin she missed her chance and it's tooo late, now u pine for Christie and the time is right?

Face it Jenn, that stupid wasilla hick freakin is way ahead of ya!

Run Sarah Run!

1 posted on 09/23/2011 8:45:17 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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To: winoneforthegipper

I think the operative words here are “Perry’s collapse.” It would take a real die-hard partisan not to see his (non)performance for what it was: a looming disaster.


2 posted on 09/23/2011 8:47:34 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Perry definitely sucked. He’s awful.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 8:47:52 AM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Chris Christie is ANTI-Second Amendment, pro-illegal alien and pro-Muslim.

Otherwise he would make a GREAT candidate (sarcasm).


4 posted on 09/23/2011 8:48:44 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: winoneforthegipper

What Perry collapse?


5 posted on 09/23/2011 8:48:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Christie has his own problems doesn’t he?


6 posted on 09/23/2011 8:49:37 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Huck

WEll, now I’m gonna have to watch it.


7 posted on 09/23/2011 8:50:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

If Perry's purpose was to make Romney look good, it's "mission accomplished". Now all us good little conservatives will get our "asses in line" and support the establishment GOP candidate like we've been told.


8 posted on 09/23/2011 8:50:59 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: madprof98

after christie’s ilegal 50% toll hike no way.he also lied about it


9 posted on 09/23/2011 8:51:15 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: winoneforthegipper

Perry did not collapse. He was awful last night but he is still the most viable conservative candidate we have. palin CAN NOT win. Period.


10 posted on 09/23/2011 8:51:27 AM PDT by pgkdan (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Christie appears to be a fine governor and he needs to stay that way.


11 posted on 09/23/2011 8:51:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Palin will get in at the end of the moose hunting season. We still have a few more weeks to go.


12 posted on 09/23/2011 8:52:48 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: winoneforthegipper

Oh hell Yes! Let’s swap an illegal immigrant supporter to an appointer of a Sharia Law Judge, now wonder they call it the Stupid Party.


13 posted on 09/23/2011 8:53:03 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Lessons In Disaster: LBJ, Carter,Clinton,Obama.)
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To: Huck

Don’t worry, the bluebloods still have plenty of time to put Christie, or Jeb, or somebody else up to it before filing deadlines.

I predict at least two big names more jump in before the November filing deadlines.


14 posted on 09/23/2011 8:53:07 AM PDT by ngat
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To: pgkdan

Perry is no conservative. He is a professional politician who blows with the wind.


15 posted on 09/23/2011 8:54:23 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: winoneforthegipper

Ithink it is time to get rid of all the Wannabees and just have debates with Romney and Perry. These forumns with 8 and 9 candidates are useless.


16 posted on 09/23/2011 8:54:42 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Huck

i don’t know- i was never a huge Perry supporter though his job creation and especially tort reform, speak for themselves...

it seems like the GOP is once against try to grab defeat from the jaws of victory....i live in liberalsville, NY- two miles from the clinton’s...my gym is full of uber leftists....they are resigned to the fact obama has no chance at re-election based on his piss-poor performance...

the comment made to me this morning by an uber liberal, who supported obama head and shoulders, was, “whoever the next president is, he’ll have to take up deficit reduction, and it looks like Romney”...

not saying i agree with him but i think the mindset of the libs right now is they realize its not going to be obama and hope it will be romney...


17 posted on 09/23/2011 8:54:44 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Perry is bad. Christie is worse.


18 posted on 09/23/2011 8:54:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: cuban leaf

Exactly. Just when do we pick our candidates on how well they do in a debate. Let’s look at their records instead. Romney, in my book, is worse than Perry - regardless, of who did or didn’t win a stupid debate.


19 posted on 09/23/2011 8:55:01 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: winoneforthegipper

Palin has a rendezvous with destiny and the Tea Party will make sure she arrives to her destination!


20 posted on 09/23/2011 8:55:16 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: pgkdan

Well, Perry will surely do well with the Hispanic vote.

Perhaps that is his aim.


21 posted on 09/23/2011 8:55:23 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: cuban leaf

The “Perry collapse” in the media template... so it will be reported far and wide, as truth is NOT an obstacle to the media narrative. Perry is frontrunner, so there was NO WAY he wouldn’t “suck” (in media mind). All media (Fox included) wanna be the king maker, so if any of the others ascend to “frontrunner” they’re collaspe will also duly reported. The REAL collapse is that of BHO... which is being reported (kinda) but oh so reluctantly!


22 posted on 09/23/2011 8:55:49 AM PDT by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Perry picked the absolute worst possible issue to be a RINO on- illegal immigration. Because long after the debates about this or that issue of the day have passed, we will STILL be dealing with the horrible consequences of not securing our border, with gang violence in our streets, a permanent underclass, etc.

And to compound that RINO stance by wagging his finger at those of us who want secure borders and calling us heartless- this guy has no business being the GOP nominee.


23 posted on 09/23/2011 8:55:50 AM PDT by TroutGuy
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To: Catsrus

Yes, Perry is better than Romney. But that’s not saying a hell of a lot.


24 posted on 09/23/2011 8:56:00 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: ZULU

Talk about your RINO’s, Christie is the biggest.


25 posted on 09/23/2011 8:56:04 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: pgkdan

“Perry did not collapse. He was awful last night but he is still the most viable conservative candidate we have. palin CAN NOT win. Period.”

Stop worrying. There’s plenty more candidates besides the nine still in there.


26 posted on 09/23/2011 8:56:24 AM PDT by ngat
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To: winoneforthegipper

Christie is NOT running. He might accept the VP slot and campaign for two months next year, but he’s not running for president no matter how much anyone may (or may not) want him to.


27 posted on 09/23/2011 8:56:24 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: GeronL

—Christie has his own problems doesn’t he?—

This is the problem with a lot of the nay-saying about ANY candidate. Whenever people in 2008 said Sarah was not qualified I said, “compared to whom?” It is all relative. Perry may be a poor conservative compared to someone like Sarah, but he is way more conservative than Romney or Christie. But then, just being conservative is not our litmus test. I’ve met plenty of conservatives sitting on bar stools, but that doesn’t mean they should be president.

Frankly, doing well in these debates doesn’t matter to me much either. A huge gaffe would matter, but it is the leaders opportunity to lose. They are only good for those that need any and all exposure they can get. I’ll have to review the video and see exactly what major error(s) Perry made before I can chime in on his performance, but the key is in that last word: Performance. Which is how I see these debates.

The only thing that can really come out of a debate that is of substance is for one of the candidates to screw up REALLY, REALLY bad in the old “is you is or is you aint my constit’ency?” thing from Oh Brother Where Art Thou. You remember, the “I belong to a secret organization. I don’t think I need to mention the name here” sort of thing.

Did Perry do anything like that? And deer in the headlights doesn’t really count. Stammering is WAY better than saying something just plain wrong or offensive.


28 posted on 09/23/2011 8:56:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ngat

What filing deadline are you talking about? New Hampshire?


29 posted on 09/23/2011 8:57:20 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“Perry did not collapse. He was awful last night..”

Perry will drop out in January and support Romney. His only purpose in this race is to take up space. He is doing what Pawlenty was supposed to do but failed.


30 posted on 09/23/2011 8:57:34 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: pgkdan

Why do you say that? Why are you so closed minded about her? Because some deranged fanantics told you she can’t win? K


31 posted on 09/23/2011 8:58:01 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: Huck

So, he isn’t a good debater. That doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be a good president. We’ve had enough of someone who supposedly speaks well and look at the mess this country is in.

Why are Americans so danged superficial?


32 posted on 09/23/2011 8:58:29 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: ZULU

he also took down the unions in NJ, fights the public union face-to-face, told obama and the transportation department to take a hike with their $500million tunnel and refuses to have anything to do with a millionaires tax...

sorry- it you’re looking for someone with no chinks in the conservative agenda you’re going to be hard pressed to find one...


33 posted on 09/23/2011 8:58:41 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Huck

Perry didn’t do a good job last night, but he had a bunch of “Nats” like Santorum and Bachmann taking shots at him as well as fending off the glib Romney. Because of this stupid 9 person Forumn, if I were Perry, I would try and cut a deal with Romney to go one-on-one. Romney probably wont go for that because as of now he has a supporting cast tossing rocks at Perry. The only guy besides Perry that I heard question Romney was Herman Cain on Romney’s refusal to overhaul the tax code.


34 posted on 09/23/2011 8:58:41 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Cicero

—Perry is bad. Christie is worse.—

And Romney is worse than both of them.

So, as usual, when we vote next November we will not be voting for a candidate. We’ll be voting against one.


35 posted on 09/23/2011 8:59:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

If being ahead by double digits is collapsing... then I hope Perry collapses in the general against Obama too!

lol

I’ve never seen so much made out of so little.


36 posted on 09/23/2011 8:59:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 ! Luckily we are electing a president and not a debate captain)
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To: ngat

I hope Christie sticks to his guns and stays out of it. He should finish his job here in NJ. It’s not his fault the GOP bench is made up of scrubs and knaves.


37 posted on 09/23/2011 9:00:02 AM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Ithink it is time to get rid of all the Wannabees and just have debates with Romney and Perry. These forumns with 8 and 9 candidates are useless.

No.

38 posted on 09/23/2011 9:00:02 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: winoneforthegipper
Perry flubbing didn't get Christie's BMI below 40.
39 posted on 09/23/2011 9:00:09 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: rwoodward

U r right....!


40 posted on 09/23/2011 9:00:31 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: pgkdan

Please stop repeating what the stablishment & media tell you.

Study up on history and you’ll realize that the media and establishment and liberals said the SAME EXACT WORDS about Reagan. It’s a liberal tactic they’ve used for YEARS and the only reason they keep using it is because Conservatives keep falling for it.


41 posted on 09/23/2011 9:01:00 AM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Perry’s fatal flaw, illegal immigration, is shared by Christie. He is not an alternative.


42 posted on 09/23/2011 9:01:36 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Thompson gambit.


43 posted on 09/23/2011 9:01:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: ngat; Huck
Don’t worry, the bluebloods still have plenty of time to put Christie, or Jeb, or somebody else up to it before filing deadlines.

Why? They already have Romney running.

I predict at least two big names more jump in before the November filing deadlines.

I'm pretty concerned that Perry hasn't done better in these question and answer settings, but he has time to improve. However, close elections can be decided in how the nominees of the two parties do in Oct. before the election and Perry has not shown himself ready for that yet.

44 posted on 09/23/2011 9:02:01 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: cuban leaf
Well it's better to vote against the Killer of the USA isn't it? I think we are past picky by now. We are desperate and in a time of peril we must vote for the Republican that we are stuck with to save our nation.
45 posted on 09/23/2011 9:02:03 AM PDT by angcat (RUN SARAH RUN!)
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To: GeronL
Christie has his own problems doesn’t he?

Not if you want to build a mosque at Ground Zero.

46 posted on 09/23/2011 9:02:24 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Too late. Perry’s exposed himself. Would have happened sooner or later anyway, better for the GOP that it was sooner.


47 posted on 09/23/2011 9:02:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Catsrus
Talk about your RINO’s, Christie is the biggest.

The base will really go bat-$hit crazy when they learn about his stance on the 2nd amendment. It will generate an even larger negative reaction than Perry on immigration.

But Chris will get a lot of face time on Morning Joe, and Mika and Joe will get all twitterpated.

48 posted on 09/23/2011 9:02:44 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I seriously hope not. Romney is “it’s my turn” Dole III.

I will not vote if he is the nominee. I’ll be busy putting the finishing touches on my bunker.


49 posted on 09/23/2011 9:03:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Catsrus

I get the feeling Christie is PRO AMNESTY!


50 posted on 09/23/2011 9:03:25 AM PDT by spiderfern
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