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Pakistan says US risks 'losing an ally'
Al Jazeera English ^ | 9.23.11 | staff

Posted on 09/23/2011 10:28:59 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded

Pakistan has told the US it risks losing an ally if it continues to accuse the country of playing a double game in the war against al-Qaeda, escalating the crisis in relations between the two countries.

Hina Rabbani Khar, the Pakistani foreign minister, was responding to comments by Admiral Mike Mullen, the US joint chiefs of staff, who said Pakistan military's spy agency, ISI, was closely tied to the Haqqani network, the most violent and effective faction allied with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

It is the most serious allegation levelled by the US against Pakistan since they began an alliance in the "war on terror" a decade ago.

"You will lose an ally," Khar told Geo TV in New York in remarks broadcast on Friday.

"You cannot afford to alienate Pakistan, you cannot afford to alienate the Pakistani people. If you are choosing to do so and if they are choosing to do so it will be at their [the United States'] own cost."

The Haqqani network is a "veritable arm" of Pakistan's military intelligence agency, Mullen said on Thursday in prepared remarks to the US Senate Armed Services Committee.

He said the agency supported the group in its attack last week on the US embassy and NATO headquarters in Kabul. "The Haqqani network ... acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency," Mullen said.

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff, also termed Mullen's comments as "very unfortunate and not based on facts".

"This is especially disturbing in view of a rather constructive meeting with Admiral Mullen in Spain," Kayani said in a statement.

"Categorically denying the accusations of proxy war and ISI support to Haqqanis," Kayani wished that "the blame game in public statements should give way to a constructive and meaningful engagement for a stable and peaceful."

Credible intelligence

The Haqqani network, which is distinct from the Afghan Taliban, is a member of the allied factions that are fighting the US and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

"With ISI support, Haqqani operatives planned and conducted [a September 11] truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy," Mullen said.

"We also have credible intelligence that they were behind the June 28 attack against the Inter-Continental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller but effective operations."

Pakistan has denied the allegations.

Such attacks have been a blow to the US plan to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan, which is due to begin this year and end in 2014.

Also speaking at the hearing, Leon Panetta, the US defence secretary, said that these sorts of attacks were a sign of "weakness" on the part of fighters in Afghanistan.

"Overall, we judge this change in tactics to be a result of a shift in momentum in our favour and a sign of weakness in the insurgency," Panetta told the committee.

Panetta's remarks

Just two days after the assassination of Burhanuddin Rabbani, the former Afghan president who was playing a role in mediating with the Taliban, Panetta said that as "the Taliban lost control of territory last year they shifted away from large attacks on our forces to greater reliance on headline-grabbing attacks".

Panetta said that the best signal that the US could send was that they would continue to fight the Taliban, and that this would convince them to negotiate a peaceful settlement.

Mullen, who is to step down this month from his post, agreed with Panetta's assessment. He said that while headline-grabbing attacks were "serious and significant in shaping perceptions ... they do not represent a sea change in the odds of military success".

Panetta claimed that security was improving across Afghanistan, particularly in areas where the US has increased troop numbers, though he did not go into specifics.

"While overall violence in Afghanistan is trending down, and down substantially in areas where we concentrated our surge, we must be more effective in stopping these [high-profile] attacks and limiting the ability of insurgents to create perceptions of decreasing security," he said.

He said the US military is "working with our Afghan counterparts to discuss with them how we can provide better protection against these attacks. But the bottom line is that we can't let these sporadic events deter us from the progress that we've made".

'Exporting violence'

The comments on Pakistan's alleged links to the Haqqani group come after a series of tough statements from US officials on the subject, but were the toughest yet from Mullen.

"In choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy, the government of Pakistan - and most especially the Pakistani Army and ISI [intelligence service], jeopardises not only the prospect of our strategic partnership, but also Pakistan's opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate regional influence," Mullen said.

"By exporting violence, they have eroded their internal security and their position in the region. They have undermined their international credibility and threatened their economic well-being."

Panetta echoed that sentiment, and when questioned by Carl Levin, the chairman of the committee, on what the US could do in addition to applying diplomatic pressure, he declined to share "operational details" on what could be done.

"I don't think [Pakistani leaders] would be surprised by the actions we might or might not take," he said.

Yet Mullen stressed that Pakistan had a crucial role to play in the achievement of US objectives in the region.

"A flawed and difficult relationship [with Pakistan] is better than no relationship at all," he said, adding praise for Pakistani authorities for having targeted al-Qaeda leaders in the country.

Senator John McCain, the ranking member of the committee, said that while Panetta and Mullen may be continuing efforts to achieve US objectives with regards to Pakistan through negotiations, it would be an "uphill battle" to convince the US Congress to continue its current levels of aid and funding to the country.


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To: Eyes Unclouded

“ally” must be a relative term now....


21 posted on 09/23/2011 10:55:41 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Pakistan has mastered the art of playing the US.


22 posted on 09/23/2011 10:57:56 AM PDT by ravager
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To: Eyes Unclouded

In Pakistan, we NEVER HAD an ally. We simply BOUGHT a temporary companion — who hated us.


23 posted on 09/23/2011 11:00:27 AM PDT by patriot preacher
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To: Eyes Unclouded; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; Squantos; Eaker; JohnHuang2; Jim Robinson; betty boop; ..
Here, let me move these paragtraphs around and clarify some of the reporters verbage:
On Thursday in prepared remarks to the US Senate Armed Services Committee, Admiral Mike Mullen, of the US joint chiefs of staff, said that the Haqqani network is a "veritable arm" of Pakistan's military intelligence agency.

Mullen said the ISI supported the Haqqani network in its attack last week on the US embassy and NATO headquarters in Kabul. "The Haqqani network ... acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency," Mullen said.

The Haqqani network, which is distinct from the Afghan Taliban, is one of the factions that are fighting the US and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

"With ISI support, Haqqani operatives planned and conducted [a September 11] truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy," Mullen said.

"We also have credible intelligence that they were behind the June 28 attack against the Inter-Continental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller but effective operations."

Hina Rabbani Khar, the Pakistani foreign minister told Geo TV in New York in remarks broadcast on Friday, directed at the US, "You will lose an ally."

"You cannot afford to alienate Pakistan, you cannot afford to alienate the Pakistani people. If you are choosing to do so and if they are choosing to do so it will be at their [the United States'] own cost."

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff, termed Mullen's comments as "very unfortunate and not based on facts".

"This is especially disturbing in view of a rather constructive meeting with Admiral Mullen in Spain," Kayani said in a statement.

Kayani indicated he was, "categorically denying the accusations of proxy war and ISI support to Haqqanis."

Kayani wished that "the blame game in public statements should give way to a constructive and meaningful engagement for a stable and peaceful."
So, who are you going to believe?

The Pakistani military and leadership, who for years had Osama bin Laden living in a secret, large compound in the shadow of their military academy, supposedly unaware that he was right there in one of their most secure cities, surrounded by tens of thosuands of their military's besta?

Or are you going to believe Admiral Mullens who has a stellar record in the War on Terror and in using the US intelligence agencies to root out terrorists all over the world?

Fact is, Pakistan is a nation split, horribly split, between a large segment of its population who would like peace and prosperity, and another large segment who are wholly committed to radical Islamic Jihad...against the United States, its allies, and their own citizens.

It has been shown on numerous occassions that high level operatives within the Pakistani intelligence agency and military have sold out the US and their own people in order to aid and abbett the terrorists.

With all of that on the table, it is not hard to understand what the truth is here...and why Pakistani officials are denying it so hard in public.

Some of the officials know and are perhaps a part of the problem...others cannot allow their own people to know how infitrated and compromised they are.

Sadly, here in the US, we also are infitrated with enemy sympathizers and those who despise America, clear to the leaders in our own government.

THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA

MARXISM IN AMERICA

2012 cannot come quickly enough. We must double down on 2010 and route the vipers out of our own government.

24 posted on 09/23/2011 11:00:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: KC_Lion
Ummmm.... there is actually no such language called “Indian”. lol. Besides, if you can already speak “Pakistani”, you should be fine with “Indian” ;)
25 posted on 09/23/2011 11:02:49 AM PDT by ravager
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To: dfwgator

"So long, nuke ya later."

*SNICKER*...love that photo!...
We had the Pakis, as an Ally?
....maybe as a "ally of convenience"...
they are Muslim after all....


26 posted on 09/23/2011 11:05:11 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
I dont think SA really belongs in the second position. They should be further down if you ask me.
27 posted on 09/23/2011 11:05:19 AM PDT by ravager
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To: MikeSteelBe
There is no such thing as a muslim “ally” to a non-muslim nation.

EXACTLY.
Since when do allies sponsor attacks against U.S. Embassies?

28 posted on 09/23/2011 11:05:45 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: patriot preacher

Yes, we bought a temporary companion - a whore.

Hopefully we got our monies worth - because fidelity was obviously NOT part of the purchase price.


29 posted on 09/23/2011 11:06:28 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

With friends like these, eh Dude..

30 posted on 09/23/2011 11:06:52 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: ravager
Lemme see.....hide Bin Laden and probably Zawahiri & Co., arrest a few jihadis every now and then...turn them loose when US attention is diverted.....send the army up into the jihadi badlands with plenty hullaballoo....do nothing and then retreat quietly. Provide support for insurgents fighting the US in Afghanistan, blowing up CIA agents and killing SEALs. Attacking the US Embassy in Kabul.

For this they get billions from the US.....what's not to like ?

31 posted on 09/23/2011 11:07:47 AM PDT by Sloane_Ranger
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To: Eyes Unclouded

ToiletStan is no ally. They used us and we used them. If Allah was truly Compassionate, he would wipe the scourge of islam from the earth.


32 posted on 09/23/2011 11:14:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Buh- bye!!


33 posted on 09/23/2011 11:14:32 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Pakistan is like this “over-the-hill” prostitute and US has always been a very generous customer.... but is losing interest now. Pakistan doesnt have too many generous customers left who are willing to patronize an old whore. The Chinese and Saudis has been screwing her for free.


34 posted on 09/23/2011 11:18:04 AM PDT by ravager
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Pffttt!

Close the war down, get out and leave these animals to their own devices.

35 posted on 09/23/2011 11:56:51 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Pakistan is an ally? Well heck, that is breaking news ...


36 posted on 09/23/2011 12:02:31 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Eyes Unclouded

And Pakistan, you’ll gain an enemy.


37 posted on 09/23/2011 12:07:21 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Sloane_Ranger
Yup and after all of that... Pakistan has the gall to put the onus on US to be a “good ally”. And that is the art they have mastered.
38 posted on 09/23/2011 12:10:51 PM PDT by ravager
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To: Sloane_Ranger

I mean.... hats off to their audacity!


39 posted on 09/23/2011 12:16:28 PM PDT by ravager
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To: reaganaut1
It is an ally to the current President.

And the US policy has been to destabilize Israel to protect our interest in the area, but just keep things from breaking out into war.

40 posted on 09/23/2011 12:17:27 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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