Skip to comments.WI Judge to Zinniker, FTCLDF: No "Fundamental Right" to Own a Cow, or Consume Its Milk
Posted on 09/24/2011 1:03:30 PM PDT by bkopto
In response to a request from the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund, the judge issued a clarification of his decision last week regarding his assessment of the constitutionality of food rights.
As if to show how pissed he was at being questioned, he said his decision translates further that "no, Plaintiffs to not have a fundamental right to own and use a dairy cow or a dairy herd;
"no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to consume the milk from their own cow;"
And in a kind of exclamation point, he added this to his list of no-nos: "no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to produce and consume the foods of their choice..."
You have to wonder if maybe even the regulators are getting a tad uncomfortable with the rulings coming from the nation's judiciary on food rights. Many of these individuals, biased as they are against raw milk, dabble in farming to some extent, or grew up on farms. This judge has gone way beyond what many of them have come to assume--that everyone has the right to own a cow and consume its milk Even in places that ban raw milk sales, there's nearly always a provision in state law that anyone who owns a cow has the right to consume its milk.
It seems Judge Fiedler is saying it's not a "fundamental right," but rather a right granted us by the state.
(Excerpt) Read more at thecompletepatient.com ...
That’s right...you have no fundemental right to even water or food of any kind....the shiavo judge nailed that one...
The state can lawfully starve you to death....
The law is an ass...
Shouldn’t this be covered by property rights?
But there is a fundamental right to the tree of liberty.
I shouldn’t think this would go over very big in Wisconsin. He’s offending the sustainable food people of the left as well as the Constitutional rights people on the right.
The factory farmers would like it, and the politicians with whom they make their arrangements. But who else?
Their contention is that if the Constitution does not specifically enumerate a right (forget that they are total hypocrites on this matter) then said right does not exist and/or is not relevant to the dealings between man and government.
However, they just can't seem to understand what the 9th Amendment says:
"The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people".
This jedge is either a dunce or a commie statist. Doesn't matter either way...except for when he goes to trial. Commie statists to be hung, stupid enablers to go to prison for re-education.
Sometimes I think we’re headed back into feudalism. :(
Just freaking wow...
The judge needs to be removed, and fast.
Call it ‘surrogate breast feeding’ (wet nurse is too passe).
If men can be sperm donors to thousands of anonymous egg donors and hundreds of rental wombs - please tell me why one cow cannot be a surrogate breast feeder to its one owner!
He made his ruling. Now, let him enforce it.
” He made his ruling. Now, let him enforce it. “
I share, and agree with, the sentiment — however, our society these days is infested with a particularly nasty species of Do-Gooder-Busybody, many of them having infested Government at all levels...
And the non-Gummint sub-species - found in every neighborhood - is just aching to denounce their neighbors to their authoritarian compatriots....
I hate to burst the righteous bubble, but this is nothing new, at least in terms of statute. Many localities forbid the possession of farm animals within their boundaries. Maybe this new ruling is not relevant to my point, but it is my point and I'm sticking to it.
If someone wants to split and transport 'em, my patch of the Texas Piney Woods can supply lots of sharp-cornered, splintery "riding rails"...
sounds like we have only the right to pay taxes and keep quiet
Mark Twain told of a rascal who was tarred, feathered and ridden out of town on a rail.
Rascal commented, “If it weren’t for the honor of the thing, I’d just as soon walk.”
I bet this judge believes that women have a “right” to kill their babies.
The judge doesn’t have a fundemental right not to be tarred and feathered...at least according to the “logic” of his ruling.
Impeach the arrogant judge to teach him the meaning of “We the People...”
Looks like the link got truncated as well as the title, as it doesn’t work. Here’s a working link:
You mean back when there were property rights?
I can foresee the time when judges make law useless.
I can foresee the time when judges make law useless.
My 82 year old father was telling me the other day that he could see the day and it wasn’t to far off he said: “Politicians and Judges are going to end up against the wall.” And let me tell you, when you lose my Law and order Father’s respect you’re toast.
I once heard someone say, just take all of congress and shoot only 1/2 of them and send the rest back to clean up the mess they have made...
Here is some light reading on the Ninth Amendment by Randy Barnett.
Warning: Read and weep.
Clear as milk.
This is complete BS. These judges are making decisions way above their authority. I say this as a person who wouldn’t drink raw milk if you held a gun to my head
Bingo. Nothing worse than a damn know-it-all do gooder. Always there with unsolicited advice
Yes, it should... it's a bad ruling. Needs to be appealed. And that judge needs to seek employment elsewhere.
...well, the judge is an ass....
“... hence it is that he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life. For I have reason to conclude that he who would get me into his power without my consent would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for nobody can desire to have me in his absolute power unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom- i.e. make me a slave. To be free from such force is the only security of my preservation, and reason bids me look on him as an enemy to my preservation who would take away that freedom which is the fence to it; so that he who makes an attempt to enslave me thereby puts himself into a state of war with me.”
From John Locke’s 2nd essay on government.
With all due respect, anyone that actually obeys this Obamahole is an idiot.
This judge should be afraid to ride in anything other than an armored car.
Let’s see. If the SHTF and said judge shows up at a location, which is lousy with cows, pigs, and all kinds of home grown tasty stuff, I guess I would have to say that he can’t have any, it’s not government approved, therefore no one has a right to eat it. The only right he has is to die of starvation.
“This judge should be afraid to ride in anything other than an armored car.
That’s what AP is for. :)
The communists killed or enslaved the kulaks and put the peasants in charge of the farms. The peasants lacked the know-how of making the soil and animals productive...........translation: mass famine..........
The peasants thought that the commies were doing them a favor.........they were just being used and controlled........like you said......
P.S. I went to your FReeper About Page........darn righteous........
Nice place to find a hanging judge.
This is insane.
You are referring to zoning laws. These do not limit your right to own a cow, merely where you can possess it. There are no zoning laws that limit your right to own.
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