Skip to comments.Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory; Rick Perry in deep trouble
Posted on 09/24/2011 5:24:39 PM PDT by iowamark
From the bottom of the polls to the top of the pack, businessman Herman Cain won the Republican Party of Floridas nationally watched presidential straw poll Saturday in a sign that frontrunner Rick Perry is in deep trouble.
Cains victory with 37 percent of the vote was a major defeat for Perry, the frontrunner in Florida and national polls, who garnered only 15 percent after wooing the nearly 3,000 party faithful with a free breakfast and mailers.
The vote also showed how soft Republican support is for Mitt Romney, who came in third with 14 percent. Unlike Perry, though, he avoided schmoozing the GOP voters, called delegates.
"Folks, this is what you call momentum," Cain, the former CEO of Godfathers Pizza, said in a video message from his campaign bus. "The Herman Cain train is picking up steam."
That means more national media attention, heightened standing in the race and access to more fundraisers.
The straw poll is a mock election and doesnt necessarily reflect the sentiment of the voters at large. In past years, it has predicted the partys national nominee, but that streak could be in jeopardy because even some Cain voters had doubts about whether he was ready to be the partys nominee.
Still, the vote is a major indication of how badly damaged Perry was by a poor debate performance Thursday when he fumbled answers and failed to give specifics.
Many straw poll voters were especially dissatisfied by the answers Perry gave over his moderate immigration position, the Ponzi scheme of Social Security and his plan to inoculate girls from human papillomavirus.
I came in thinking Rick Perry, said Tommy Langford,a Gilchrist County commissioner who voted for Cain. I didnt like the debate at all. I really thought Perry lost it. Mitt Romney called him on immigration. He said we have to take care of them. Not if theyre illegal, we dont.
Another big loser: Michele Bachmann, who came in last place. Once a top-tier candidate who won the Iowa straw poll, she has fallen from sight in the debates where she, too, fails to give specifics, excite delegates here or even reach out to them.
Perry issued a written statement congratulating Cain, saying the vote underscored the fact that the conservative message of job creation, fiscal responsibility and limited government is gaining momentum.
Floridians and voters nationally want a candidate who is clear on the issues and talks honestly about the future, Perry said, not someone who takes multiple sides of an issue and changes views every election season. Todays vote demonstrates that Floridians are energized and ready to help get America working again.
Pinellas County delegate Rachelle Warmouth said that, if Perry lost, it wouldnt be the end of his campaign. But when or lose, the debate performance and the effect its having on party loyalists are a call to step up his game.
Hell have to have a strong recovery, she said. He needs to focus on his message.
Warmouths friend, Eileen Blackmer, agreed: He needs to work on the three Cs: Be clear, be concise, be complete.
Lee County delegate Dane Eagle said hes for Romney. He likes the candidates message and polish on stage. And he fears that President Obama would walk all over Perry in debates.
Thats what Obama does, Eagle said. He debates.
St. Johns County delegate Randy Covington said he arrived in Orlando ready to vote for Perry, but the debate "shattered" that plan. Covington decided to support Cain after the businessman"s rousing speech on Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference. That event was wedged in between the partys Presidency 5 Thursday debate and Saturday straw poll.
But Convington said he wasnt sure if Cain would or should be the nominee. He said the primary shouldnt be a two-man race.
"We need this process to go on," Covington said.
Gov. Rick Scott, who announced the results from the Orange County Convention Center stage, said the candidates need to take very seriously whatever the results are.
"It shows you something. Florida is important," Scott said from the Orange County Convention Center stage. "It pays to be here."
In a stunning upset Saturday, Herman Cain won Floridas Presidency 5 straw poll, a vote of 2,657 Republican activists that in past years has predicted the party nominee. Here are the results:
Herman Cain: 37 percent
Rick Perry: 15 percent
Mitt Romney: 14 percent
Rick Santorum: 10.9 percent
Ron Paul: 10.4 percent
Newt Gingrich: 8 percent
Jon Huntsman: 2.3 percent
Michelle Bachmann: 1.5 percent""
37-15 Cain over Perry? That’s not just a win, that’s a butt-kicking.
I don’t know if I would stick a fork in Perry quite yet. The bigger story here is that the heir apparent Milty couldn’t even get in second place in a very important state.
That was classy! Notice they didn't say Romney was done despite the fact that the man has been running for years and still got beat by Perry even after the debate.
Sarah’s my #1, Cain #2. If Sarah doesn’t jump in I’m on the Cain Train.
Mitt wouldn’t be trying to muddy the RINO Cowboy’s water by conducting a little Operation Chaos action, would he?
He led the big government RINO and leading candidate from MA by one point more than he led Perry, but Perry is the one in trouble? The media have an interesting perspective on events.
Why does this mean Perry is in trouble and not Romney?
Worth repeating: If Sarah doesnt jump in Im on the Cain Train!
Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory;
Rick Perry in deep trouble
Williard Mitt Romney in deep doodoo
And Cain kicked Romney’s butt even more! :)
“Many straw poll voters were especially dissatisfied by the answers Perry gave over his moderate immigration position”
It was not a moderate answer. It was a classic liberal answer. Amazing that Perry isn’t even conservative enough to even pretend to speak like one.
Still is time for Perry to right his ship. Question remains whether I WANT him to. (I guess I just have no heart. /sarc)
This is certainly a concern. Liberal blood runs in his veins and I would not put it past him.
I would like nothing better than both of them announcing they are leaving the race.
Romney didn’t contest the straw poll, he conceded it to Perry.
The voters had other ideas!
If neither works out I'm focusing on local and state elections.
This just may be the kick Cain needs to get ahead from here on. He’s my man, above all others. I love Sarah, I love Michelle, but I honestly believe in this day and hour, we need a man at the helm (flame away that I’m sexist - not so - it’s just that neither S nor M are a Margaret Thatcher...)
Taking another risk, I’ll post what I said in another thread:
Cain is the one for me: Straight shooter with solutions that can out-debate almost anyone; true blue conservative & Christian; proven executive with turn-around expertise; brilliant, articulate, counters with between-the-eyes strikes, ALWAYS directly answers the question asked of him, and he’d get at least 40% of the black vote. His answers always #1. Identify the problem; #2. Explains the solutions. Lastly he disarms the liberal claims that to oppose Obama is racist.
He’d clobber Obama in any debates because O would have his TOTUS.
I don’t like his 9% national sales tax (all libs have to do is later double it), but it’s better than what we have now and does solve a LOT of problems.
I do believe Cain is the MAN of the hour above all others...
I’ve got to thoroughly disagree with this articles headline. It should read: Mitt Romney in DEEP trouble.
Perry performed poorly, but ROMNEY is the one who performed very well. DESPITE that good performance, he not only didn’t improve, but he actually dropped compared to his national poll numbers.
Perry lost support. The based refused to give Romney the support he would otherwise have earned. In short, they must not like him. There’s no other way to interpret those results.
I don’t think Cain has a chance, but I sure like his steadfast message. The man is consistant and doesn’t waffle or weasel out.
This should be a major wake-up call to both the Perry and Romney campaigns. People are sick of the same old sh**. Either figure out how to chart a new path or wither on the old vine.
Umm no they did not. Even combined Cain wins by 8 points.
Herman Cain: 37 percent
Rick Perry: 15 percent
Mitt Romney: 14 percent
Perry was the front runner in Florida
Interesting quote from his camp from the previous article.
“In June the Romney campaign said that while they respect the straw poll process, they would not take part in straw polls this cycle and instead “focus our energies and resources on winning primaries and caucuses.”
Because for the most part Romney passed on this event while Perry's people worked overtime and he was predicted to take it. Expectations for Perry here were high due to his early momentum and media exposure.
My bad, thanks (and to think I got a 36 on the math ACT). That is even MORE pathetic for Romney and Perry. A strong message has been sent. We’ll see what comes of it.
Cain delivers a heartless butt kicking to perry.
I like Cain, also like Perry so either way, it looks like a win.
> Sarahs my #1, Cain #2. If Sarah doesnt jump in Im on the Cain Train.
At this point in 2007 McCain was the one of the three bottom candidates and 0 was a virtual unknown. At that point "everyone knew" it was going to be "Hillary vrs Giuliani IN 2008.
Good point. Maybe there is still hope.
I don’t think we’ve heard the last of Bachmann either. As more and more issues thicken the race, Bachmann’s outsized tiff over a rare side effect of Gardasil will be forgotten. Bachmann gets so much other stuff right.
“BUT GOD.....” is a common phrase throughout scripture used where the situation is beyond desperate - and then God sovereignly intervenes.....
And that’s exactly the situation now, and exactly what we need.
Yes, outwardly he doesn’t have a chance.....”BUT GOD....”
So we need to pray.....remember, our battle IS NOT AGAINST FLESH & BLOOD!
Ricardo Perry lost it when at first he went on the states rights when it came to the homo agenda when homo’s are trying to get even more special laws and now openly serve along with cross dressing freak but then blew it when it came on to the immigration and then called many bigots
“I dont think Cain has a chance”
Change your way of thinking then. Haven’t you read an old childrens story about the Little Train That Could? I think I ca(i)n, I think I ca(i)n-—and he DID!
Sorry....I’m not sympathethic with the anchor’s and the education thing.....They need to go....Education for our AMERICAN children...fine.....Other then that, good bye...
Not only does it show that Perry has shot himself in both feet but that Romney is not going to be the one who benefits from it.
Cain vs Unable
has a nice ring to it
I went into this debate with Perry as my first choice. Now, I’ve eliminated him completely.
I like Cain very much. He and Newt are probably the smartest candidates, although Newt’s got a lot of baggage, and I wouldn’t consider him. My worry about Cain is that he doesn’t have any political experience.
No matter who wins the GOP primary, I’m voting for him - or her. To stay at home is to vote for Barrack Obama.
You are exactly right. I remember the shrill panic coming from the folks on here who were so worried about She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named that they supported Rudy because “He’s the only one who can beat her.”
Most of them are no longer with us here, having gotten so hostile, it was impossible to talk to them.
If they (pro-amnesty crowd) keep accepting the opposition to Mexico's status quo - then who will be left in Mexico to vote and fight for change?
It is people like you who help the Mexican people more than you may know.
It is the John McCains of the US who have no heart.
That is very clever! We could even recycle the ‘08 signs and save Herman a few bucks. :)
Plus it would feel sooo good to obliterate the “Mc” from ‘08. I hated having to vote for McCain. No more RINO’s!
Go Herman Cain!
Well, you spin it just like the MSM might...."Combined, they BEAT Cain!!!!!"
Do you often lie, or are you just lousy at simple math?
My friends in Texas who know Perry well ARE NOT for him! They know him too well.
He’s first and foremost A POLITICIAN!!! and when Cain was asked if he could get anywhere because he WASN’T a politician, he astutely answered, “Politicians got us where we are today. How’s that workin’ out for ya’?”
The LAST THING we need is another professional politician as POTUS....
I made a math mistake. Sue me.