In-State tutition is for ANY Texas HS grad. It has been the law for a long time. The Texas legislature voted 100 to 4 to include kids of illegals, who have minimum 3 years good grades in a TEXAS HS, have personally applied for US Citizenship.
The reason for any In-State Tuition for any Texas student is because of the Texas Sales Taxes and Local Property taxes paid by eveyone in Texas, here illegally or legally. The “have a heart” was lame, but has some relivance because the students in question did not come here on their own, so why should they be made to suffer because their parents did wrong. See the point?
Numbnuts Santorim kept harping on “what about the discount for other non-Texas student before illegals”, the idiot was just being disrupting thinking he was makinhg VP points with Mutt.
>>Numbnuts Santorim kept harping on “what about the discount for other non-Texas student before illegals”, the idiot was just being disrupting thinking he was makinhg VP points with Mutt.
What he was explaining was right on-why give special rights to an illegal and by pass that same assistance to a legal citizen who has paid fairly as a legal. Sounds like the legislature was trolling for the Hispanic vote.
your view and that is fine but for me he won’;t ever get my vote, Ricardo Perry the man who won’t build a fence
No one wants children to suffer because of the actions of their parents but it’s a sad fact of life it happens and not just illegals. Parents go to jail for breaking the law (unless the law you break is entering the country illegally, evidently), for making bad choices that keep them in poverty, or lose a family fortune, etc. Some lose their parents whose parents have done nothing wrong, but instead are off defending their country. They don’t get any perks except through private foundations. On the other hand, parent’s good choices will life their children up.
The sins of the father are visited on the sons, unfortunately. It really bothers me that since the state now knows where these people are they don’t send them back. There’s no reason they can’t continue to apply for citizenship. If they have jobs they excel at they should have no problem getting green cards at the behest of their employer. My husband works in the semi conductor industry and I see this happen all the time and from many different countries.
If we aren’t going to follow our laws then we might as well not have them. For those who break the laws and their families things will be harder but laws do make everyone equal. It isn’t the fault of Americans or Texans that these children’s parents chose to broke the law. The onus is on them to straighten things out and do things the right way.
My cousin married a man from Mexico. When he arrived here LEGALLY WITH A GREEN CARD he spoke no English. He worked hard, took English classes (along the way he met my cousin & they married). He took citizenship classes and is now a citizen. He doesn’t have his family come live with them illegally, though his parents would love to be here with their 3 grandchildren. My cousin & husband just aren’t in a position right now to sponsor them. So they’re waiting until they can. Imagine what a slap in the face it is to people who did things the right way. That’s why you see people like Michelle Malkin (whose parents also came the right way) the most vocal opponents to these kinds of things.
Anything can be “justified” but should it?
Cindie
Not quite. You don't have to be a Texas HS grad. You can have a GED in Texas. No age requirement. And you don'tg have to apply for US citizenship, just do so when you are eligible to do so. Here is an excerpt from the Texas Dream Act
SECTION 2. Section 54.052, Education Code, is amended by adding Subsection (j) to read as follows:M.
(j) Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, an individual shall be classified as a Texas resident until the individual establishes a residence outside this state if the individual resided with the individual's parent, guardian, or conservator while attending a public or private high school in this state and:
(1) graduated from a public or private high school or received the equivalent of a high school diploma in this state;
(2) resided in this state for at least three years as of the date the person graduated from high school or received the equivalent of a high school diploma;
(3) registers as an entering student in an institution of higher education not earlier than the 2001 fall semester; and
(4) provides to the institution an affidavit stating that the individual will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity the individual is eligible to do so.
Under these criteria, you could be a 25 year old illegal who entered this country at age 22, resided in Texas for three years, got a GED, and applied for in-state tuition at a Texas state college. And how is the requirement to file an application to be a permaenent resident enforced? Who decides when an individual is eligible to do so? Normally, such applications for LPR are filed in the country of origin. You don't enter the US illegally and then file for permanent residency. Illegal entry disqualifies you. And finally, it is illegal for an illegal alien to work in the US and it is illegal for an employer to hire them.
The “have a heart” was lame, but has some relivance because the students in question did not come here on their own, so why should they be made to suffer because their parents did wrong. See the point?
So what should we do for those poor children who don't want to go to college. Should we provide them with free vocational training? Giving illegal youth de facto legal status is deeply unfair to those immigrant parents and their children who obeyed the law. And once you start handing out amnesties, you inevitably create more incentives for illegal entry. Moreover, allowing illegal students full access to Texas’s university system while making them pay out-of-state tuition like every other non-legal resident of Texas — such as citizens from Arkansas or Oklahoma — hardly constitutes a denial of education, as Perry implies
Let’s cut to the chase here, there are a large majority of illegals who are here and don’t give a damn about the United States, they don’t wish to share out culture, our history and they could care less about anything American.
They are here because their own country is corrupt to the point that the people there have few freedoms and little or no chance to better themselves especially economically.
No all, but good majority Mexican National come here to in a sense create a country within a country the ‘United States of Mexico’ one where they can live and thrive in the same history, culture and language of their homeland and yet not under the same corrupted government.
If there was a another country that border them that was just as successful as the United States where they could live and thrive in their own enclaves they would move there just as quick as they move here.
Yes not all are like that, but a good potion are and we can not have people coming into this country who are of a mindset that they merely wish to create ‘colonies’ of their home country within ours. Politicians like Perry, Bush and many other are allowing this colonization to the determent of our country.
History is full of the results where such behavior was allowed and eventually push came to shove and the results were ugly.
I will not support someone who actively aids in the balkanization of America.