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I'm Done With Rick Perry
September 26, 2011 | Michael Katz

Posted on 09/26/2011 9:01:32 PM PDT by Mike10542

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To: Will88

Right and the other point is that even if you can’t build it in some parts, you can in many others. I have no idea the percentage, but let’s build the fence where we can. Perry is against any fence, which I think is just plain dumb.


21 posted on 09/26/2011 9:16:01 PM PDT by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542
I'm Done With Rick Perry

Might I suggest a new candidate to support?


22 posted on 09/26/2011 9:16:27 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: sushiman

Dime stores. How long ago was that.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 9:16:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: dps.inspect

Tho that is likely the real reason, I wonder what his ostensible argument against E-verify would be.


24 posted on 09/26/2011 9:17:40 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

I hope this issue comes up at the next debate. Would love to hear what he would have to say.


25 posted on 09/26/2011 9:20:27 PM PDT by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

Perry is a RINO. I will never vote for him...


26 posted on 09/26/2011 9:21:21 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Mike10542
. Perry is against any fence, which I think is just plain dumb.

Perry does concede a need for walls or fencing in urban areas, which already exists in many places. But if we're ever serious about controlling the border, double fencing will have to be built everywhere illegals are able to cross into the US. Unless there are natural barriers to illegal entries, fencing and personnel are needed.

27 posted on 09/26/2011 9:22:16 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Mike10542
I'm curious. What good, exactly, is a fence that cannot be built along the entire expanse of U.S.-Mexico border? For that matter, what good is a fence people can climb over or dig under? If I heard Perry correctly (I'm not a Perry supporter in case you're wondering - I'm not inclined as yet to support anyone) Perry wants people stationed on the border who can actually stop illegal immigration. I'm not for building a useless fence. I would be for placing armed military troops with the ability to actually stop illegals from entering (along with drug traffickers).
28 posted on 09/26/2011 9:22:20 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I love Santorum; he was sandbagged on that stupid Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell question. But I worry about whether he could fight through the left wing hate machine and win the general election.


29 posted on 09/26/2011 9:23:01 PM PDT by Mike10542
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Can you read? He said to build the fence and establish a reliable legal immigrant identification program!


30 posted on 09/26/2011 9:23:25 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; ari-freedom

Did you even read ari’s post?

Cain flat-out said that the main reason the public wouldn’t support immigration reform is that none of the political wonks would ‘convincingly secure our border’.


31 posted on 09/26/2011 9:23:25 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a Herman-CAIN!)
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To: Mike10542

I get you. This might help.

Read ari’s post #14.

There are many more things that can be done to physically secure the border beyond a fence.

*That* is what the American people are crying out for. Not just a fence, but for a secure border.


32 posted on 09/26/2011 9:25:50 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a Herman-CAIN!)
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To: SoldierDad

“I’m not for building a useless fence. I would be for placing armed military troops with the ability to actually stop illegals from entering”

They work hand in hand. I never heard of a prison without a fence. You have to slow people down before the tech can find them and guards to go after them. If you think it is hard to build a 700-2000 mile fence, imagine trying to get enough troops to cover that distance without one.


33 posted on 09/26/2011 9:28:07 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Marie

It’s “Welcome to the party, pal!”

Bruce Willis: Die Hard


34 posted on 09/26/2011 9:28:32 PM PDT by TwoSwords (Has anyone seen my suspension of disbelief pills?)
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To: SoldierDad
I'm not for building a useless fence. I would be for placing armed military troops with the ability to actually stop illegals from entering (along with drug traffickers).

Both are required: fencing and personnel, and also useful electronic devices, drones, etc.

And it's nothing but fanciful nonsense for anyone to pretend that our government would ever put enough personnel on the border to control it 24/7/365. And remember this: the personnel one president might put on the border, the next president can remove. Far better to have more permanent barriers such as double fencing.

35 posted on 09/26/2011 9:28:46 PM PDT by Will88
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To: All

New Zogby Poll, first National Poll since debate that uses GOP Primary voters an Likely Voters:

Cain 28%
Perry 18%
Romney 17%


36 posted on 09/26/2011 9:31:38 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: sushiman

“Dimestore cowboy”.

How do you say that in Tex-Mex?


37 posted on 09/26/2011 9:32:20 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: SoldierDad

A fence isn’t by itself enough, but doesn’t it help?? It makes it harder to get in.


38 posted on 09/26/2011 9:34:52 PM PDT by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

I am as dead set as anybody against any open-borders person being the Republican nominee.

But even I have problems with the idea that the federal government should presume to mandate that every business in the country must run all prospective employees through a government database before they may be hired.

Obviously, all federal government agencies should be required to use it and each state should require its government agencies to use it.

As to the private sector, I think what might work is instead of making use of e-verify mandatory, it is made a “safe harbor” so that if a business uses it and the database tells them an employee is okay, they are protected if it turns out that employee is not okay.


39 posted on 09/26/2011 9:35:31 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Herman Cain: We can have high fences and open doors, all at the same time!)
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To: txroadkill

Seriously, think outside the box. You just don’t build a fence in those areas and concentrate surveillance in those areas.
You make good points but something has to be done. You say these people are running for their lives. As cruel as it sounds if they have no where to run maybe they’ll fix their problems. They seem to be putting us in that situation.


40 posted on 09/26/2011 9:35:56 PM PDT by TwoSwords (Has anyone seen my suspension of disbelief pills?)
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