UC Berkeley GOP student bake sale is mean-spirited

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/27/11 | Chip Johnson

[HiTech RedNeck]

Let's see, chattel slavery bit the dust in America due to DemocratsRepublicans?

The new country was not always friendly to Indians, with infamous examples like the Trail of Tears, but often it was friendlier to Indians than their fellow Indians were. And ultimately it gave Indians most of their wish, which was to be let alone on private lands and passively get funds from treaties and mineral rights -- which could have been a pot of jam for them, but largely they languish.

[aruanan]

The new country was not always friendly to Indians, with infamous examples like the Trail of Tears, but often it was friendlier to Indians than their fellow Indians were.

And way friendlier than under the Spanish or Portuguese.

[HiTech RedNeck]

It was long suspected by anthropologists that what we know as American Indians were peoples who crossed a land bridge to North America which briefly existed across what we now call the Bering Strait. It joined what we call Siberia today to what we call Alaska today.

I’m not aware of genetic proofs that tie American Indians to oriental peoples. That was long a debated question. Who carried that out?

[HiTech RedNeck]

How much mileage do these people really want to get out of old grievances? Virtually everyone had ancestors that were somebody else’s slaves or conquered people. And present day color or race has little to do with that. That is a cheap minded wild goose chase.

[YHAOS]

Lift the rock. Listen to the howls of agony,

[Altura Ct.]

What is more ‘mean spirited’ then denying acceptance based on merit? What is more mean spirited then saying that it is not your hard work and accademics that matter but how you look that matters?

[Mrs. Don-o]

"And way friendlier than under the Spanish or Portuguese."

I'd have to see more evidence to be convinced of that. The Psanish and Portuguese internarried with Indians to such a great extent that the mixed-race population now makes up the substantial majority of Latin American societies. There was a substantial cultural as well as genetic fusion.

Whereas, as I nuderstand it, intermarriage between English-speaking settlers and tribal people was far more rare. Most Indians in North America were firmly pushed back and then segregated into reservations. (A possible, partial exception might be the mixture of Scotch-Irish and Cherokee in Appalachia.)

[TheDon]

The bake sale creators have no understanding of how race works in America.

Sounds like they understand it perfectly. Chip on the other hand, not so much.

[TribalPrincess2U]

Or

Shove it up your SMELLY OBAMASS, libs.

[redpoll]

>>>I’m not aware of genetic proofs that tie American Indians to oriental peoples. That was long a debated question. Who carried that out?<<<

Mitochondrial DNA studies seem to indicate that some of the ancestors of Native Americans came from central Asia, with the ancestors of modern Europeans moving east and the Native Americans moving west. There’s a lot of speculation about how Native people came to North America, including by boat along the coast. Eskimoan peoples have definite Asian origins and got to North America recently, in comparison. I can see it in my classroom - the Yup’ik kids often look very Chinese, while the Athabascan kids look almost European, except for the slightly brown skin.

In any case... the Berkeley students put on a brilliant satire. Which is why they pissed off so many people.

[Rick_Michael]

the truth hurts....the rest of the country might not be this way, but the bay area is anti-white. Especially anti-white male. Can’t wait to leave...

[wac3rd]

So says the AA-hired SF Chronicle writer...LOL

[bvw]

A person ignorant of our great American History writes:

In a country whose earliest beginnings relied on an economic system that ... carried out genocide against its native inhabitants, you would have to be tone-deaf to promote such an idea.

Let him look up the story of this mother.

The heroine Hannah Duston, Killer of Genocidal Indians.

[wac3rd]

I live here, too.

I want OUT.

[SmithL]

Can’t wait to leave...

I'll race you.

[lentulusgracchus]

Whites are people of color too! The combination of ALL colors in the spectrum.

Picky, picky, picky science students.

Didn't you know that this is about metaphysics? True! The lack of melanin is the Mark of Cain. I read it in the Daily Worker, so I know it's true! </s>

[Cubs Fan]

Student organizers said the point of the bake sale was to mock a bill now on Gov. Jerry Brown's desk that would allow university officials to consider race, ethnicity and gender as factors in its student admission decisions. Prop 209 prohibits public universities from considering an applicant's race, gender and ethnicity.

Did I miss something or is a bill to allow university officials to consider race, etc. in its student admission decisions completely illegal?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Very true. In many ways Affirmative Action is a mechanism for discriminating legally against Jews in the East, and Asians in the West.

I worry some about my adopted son from the Russian Far East, who is not outstandingly academically gifted,but IS classified as Asian (he is an indigenous tribal Kamchatkan by ethnicity.) He has it all against him, by being "average" in academic aptitudes, and "Asian" --- expected to do a whole LOT BETTER than average --- by census classification.

I'm thinking he should re-define himself as Russian. But no: that would be white, and so not much better, quota-wise. Would "Pacific islander" be better? Kamchatka isn't exactly a Pacific Island, but for ethnicity, it's the same "stock." (Hate that word.).

This isn't him, but similar. Vanya's Russian, but not at all Slavic or European; Indigenous Pacific RFE, but not exactly Asian.

Gad. I despise the intricate race discrimination imposed on us by the Left and their stupid diversity schemes.

[bvw]

A person abysmally ignorant of both American History and the history of Slavery writes:

In a country whose earliest beginnings relied on an economic system that placed a price tag on the value of a black man ... you would have to be tone-deaf to promote such an idea

Let him make himself aware of the following cold hard facts of life:

• In the US Census of 1830, 3,775 free black slave-owners owned a total of 12,740 black slaves.

• It was one free black, Anthony Johnson, of Virginia Colony, who first enslaved another black man and his family for life. In 1651 the freed indentured slave Mr. Johnson became well-off enough to buy his own indentured black servants. Indenture is temporary bond of servitude, after a fixed and very limited period of years the servant-slave must be freed.

  Until Mr. Johnson sued to keep his slaves for life, there was no lifetime slavery in the colonies that would become the US of A.

• Lifetime slavery was common in Africa from prehistoric times and sadly continues today. African blacks captured and traded other blacks for centuries, conditions of slavery for most where much harsher than anything known in the colonies and the US.

• Lifetime slavery was strongly opposed by many Americans, even from the start of it in 1654. Such slavery was abolished in Vermont in 1777, and all northern states had abolished it by 1850.

• America fought a most bloody civil war, from Bleeding Kansas in 1854, through the War Between the States which ended in 1865, to eliminate slavery. What other nation ever fought so hard, with so many lost for the cause of LIBERATION OF SLAVES.

• America's wars against Islamic terrorists, from the war on the Barbary Pirates which began in 1801, to today's many international actions, have had and continue to have a major anti-slavery component. Liberation is a key component.

[SaraJohnson]

Can’t get any more mean spirited than diversity racism and it’s systematic discrimination.