Skip to comments.POLL DISASTER FOR OBAMA (Underwater in must win states of Ohio and Pennsylvania)
Posted on 09/28/2011 7:22:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
President Barack Obama is in deep trouble in the key swing states of Ohio and Pennsylvania, which combined with Florida will determine the outcome of the 2012 election.
A pair of polls released by Quinnipiac University Wednesday show Obama in a statistical tie with Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in Ohio, with Obama holding a slight lead over Perry in Pennsylvania.
Most strikingly, a majority of voters in both states do not believe Obama deserves another term with majorities also disapproving of the president's job performance.
In the race for the Republican nomination, Romney leads in both key states but Perry's entrance into the race has sapped his support.
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RE: One Word: Demographics
That would be a major factor today if this were a pure popular voting system.
I would surmise that most illegals who vote are concentrated on states that WILL GO Obama ANYWAY ( California, Illionois, NY ) and won’t make much of a dent in Florida or Texas.
That is why we have the Electoral College System and thank the Framers for that.
The article says “.....states of Ohio and Pennsylvania, which combined with Florida will determine the outcome of the 2012 election.”
So, elections should only be held in these three states.
Colorado and Wisconsin are pink, Minnesota and Michigan are turning cyan very quickly.
I think your point shows how bad Obama's situation is. Yeah, most of those people will vote for Obama, but the enthusiasm gap next year will be huge. Your reluctance for McCain in 2008 led to a loss. This time, it is the other side's reluctance that will likely lead to defeat.
I do not assume Ohio yet, as I do FL, VA, and IN, but if I had to place a bet today, Ohio will be Republican red in November 2012. I believe, once again, however, that Ohio will be the deciding factor in this one.
Here in Ohio the DNC are fighting to get signatures to challenge the change to the early voting rules that were in place in 2008.Kasich is shortening the time and making them present the same ID requirements that same day voting has to show.In 2008 busloads were brought in for early voting from PA by ACORN.Without those 200,000 illegal votes Obama would to have won Ohio.He will not carry Ohio this time
What do they mean by this? Benjamin Harrison won in 1888 with a smaller popular vote, as did George W. Bush in 2000. What is the third example? (John Quincy Adams beat Andrew Jackson, but that was before the Civil War and was decided in the House of Representatives.)
Maybe they are finally admitting that Kennedy had fewer popular votes than Nixon? Quite apart from the allegations of voter fraud in Illinois and Texas that year, the usual figure for Kennedy's popular vote counts all the Democratic votes in Alabama as Kennedy votes, but the electors split their vote between Kennedy and Harry F. Byrd, and who is to say what the Democratic voters in the state were thinking when they cast their ballots? I wonder if anyone has researched the local newspapers or interviewed people who were of voting age in Alabama in 1960 to shed light on that. Without the Alabama popular vote, Nixon had a plurality.
The third example is 1876, Hayes versus Tilden.
It would be an illuminating exercise to have one election without voter ID followed in a week with one that requires photo ID. My guess is that the results would be a lot different.
I doubt Obama will win Ohio, but I think he will probably won Pennsylvania.
If it’s clear that he lost PA, forget about it. Election day will be an early night. :-)
It will take a MASSIVE landslide to overcome the vote fraud that will be in action in every state. If the GOP candidate gets a 20% majority it will still be a photo finish when the vote count is announced. Expect fraud on an unprecedented scale.
The Minnesota state congress (both houses) is controlled by the GOP. Half of the federal House members from MN are GOP. In the 2008 election, the popular vote was 45-54-1 GOP-Dem-other.
As far as history goes, Reagan only lost Minnesota by 3000 votes...with Minnesota’s own Mondale as the Dem candidate.
Minnesota leans slightly dem, but I maintain that it is in play in 2012.
Thanks—I had forgotten about that one. Of course with the voter fraud that was rampant (”Vote early and vote often!”), who knows who really had the most popular votes in some of those elections. Some were very close.
True . . . but Hispanics never went 90% for Obama, you factored them in and the EC is still in play - the minorities are all concentrated in the large cities.
?? THe constitution says that the person has to be born in the U.S....not his parents...does not say that anywhere.