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Feds Say Public Was Never in Danger in Massachusetts Man's Thwarted Terror Plot
Fox News ^ | September 29, 2011

Posted on 09/29/2011 6:40:25 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

Edited on 09/29/2011 6:56:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Rezwan Ferdaus of Ashland, Mass., was arrested Wednesday in Framingham after undercover FBI agents delivered weapons Ferdaus allegedly sought for the alleged plan. The stash included what he thought was 25 pounds of C-4 explosives, as well as three grenades and six fully-automatic AK-47 assault, a press release from the Department of Justice reads.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dcplot; ferdaus; foxlies; foxsellout; islam; islamicterrorists; islamthreat; jihad; mediapc; muslim; muslimenemy; muslimterrorits; pentagonplot; plot; saudiownedfox; terroitmuslim; terroristislam; violentjihad; violentmuslim
"I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus' conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion," said Carmen Ortiz, U.S. Attorney for the District of Massachusetts.

Really???

Ferdaus, ..... is accused of beginning in early 2010 a plot to bring violent “jihad” against the U.S, who he described as "enemies of Allah."

Jihad? Allah? Either you are an idiot Carmen or you think the rest of us are.

1 posted on 09/29/2011 6:40:29 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan

They will call him ‘mentally troubled’ and sweep this off the front pages........


2 posted on 09/29/2011 6:42:36 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: ElkGroveDan

Allah doesn’t exist Mr. Fer-duhs. His profit was a child molester. You want to fight for that??


3 posted on 09/29/2011 6:45:35 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: ElkGroveDan

http://professorsfz.blogspot.com/2010/08/if-you-cant-name-your-enemy.html


4 posted on 09/29/2011 6:46:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Because, the United States cannot defeat an enemy that its president and hence his administration is)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Of course, Ms. Ortiz.

Obama, and Bush II before him, packed the government law enforcement bureaucracies with mindless drones who really believe this drivel.

The guy was a Muslim. Unlike any other “religion”, the cult of Islam requires its followers to FIRST consider themselves citizens of the Umma - the Community of “Believers”, ahead of any other national allegiances.

The guy is not an abnormality. He's just a good Muslim doing what the Koran tells him to do - make war on those who attack Islam - regardless of how peripherally.

When are the overwhelming majority of sane, rational, non-Muslims in America going to WAKE UP and recognize these people for the menace they are?

5 posted on 09/29/2011 6:49:15 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: ElkGroveDan

—”I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus’ conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion,” said Carmen Ortiz...—

I actually agree with Mr. Ortiz. It was not based on “culture, community or religion”. Ferdaus’ conduct is reflecive of the teachings of a particular political system. That system is known as Islam.

Once people realize that it is a POLITICAL system even more than religious, maybe the PC handcuffs will come off. And a political system that plots the overthrow of the US government is considered treasonous. It is rightfully considered to be illegal.


6 posted on 09/29/2011 6:49:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Red Badger

moozlum credo: I love you. I will kill you and your family. Boom! Slash!

What’s new?


7 posted on 09/29/2011 6:50:13 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Why this is not breaking news ?

This guy is a muslim “american” . Right ?

Those whom obama relentlessly tries to connect with and to whom he regularly declares his love...Right ?


8 posted on 09/29/2011 6:50:17 AM PDT by Ulysse (mao)
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To: Red Badger

moozlum credo: I love you. I will kill you and your family. Boom! Slash!

What’s new?


9 posted on 09/29/2011 6:50:26 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Poor guy. I’ll bet his phone was tapped.
Does the ACLU know this ?


10 posted on 09/29/2011 6:50:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ElkGroveDan

“In addition to protecting our citizens from the threats and violence alleged today, we also have an obligation to protect members of every community, race and religion against violence and other unlawful conduct.”

Wrong! You can protect the citizens, or you can protect the enemy, they are mutually exclusive goals. Right now, you are protecting the enemy.

The evidence is clear, and a swift, public firing squad is what’s called for in this case.


11 posted on 09/29/2011 6:52:11 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

So... how do you blow up the Pentagon with a 2 ft. model airplane?


12 posted on 09/29/2011 6:56:01 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: ElkGroveDan

It was probably the Lutheran Allah


13 posted on 09/29/2011 6:56:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Terror Arrest: Muslim Rezwan Ferdaus Planned Attacks on Pentagon and Capitol

from link

Huffington Post reported: A 26-year-old Massachusetts man has been arrested in connection with a plot to attack the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol using an aircraft filled with C-4 explosives.

The Boston Globe reveals the name of the suspect as Rezwan Ferdaus, a U.S. citizen who was charged with “attempting to provide material support and resources to foreign terrorist organization, specifically to al Qaeda…

14 posted on 09/29/2011 6:56:53 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ElkGroveDan

“I just can’t stop. There is no other choice for me.”

‘Asked at one point about possibly killing women and children, Ferdaus allegedly said all unbelievers of Islam were his enemies.’

http://news.yahoo.com/feds-us-man-planned-blow-pentagon-210116487.html


15 posted on 09/29/2011 6:57:31 AM PDT by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Red Badger

“They will call him ‘mentally troubled’ and sweep this off the front pages........”

Nah, they’ll use this as an excuse to write more draconian legislation.


16 posted on 09/29/2011 6:57:57 AM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: Mashood
I was waiting for someone to bring this up - so what's the payload on a model airplane? maybe a couple of ounces - a half pound at most if you're talking small enough to launch on your own?

Monumental. Mighta chipped some bricks or broken a window or something...

Whoope___do!

That was one dimwitted jihadist.. Hope all the rest of them are as technologically stunted.

17 posted on 09/29/2011 7:03:21 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: ElkGroveDan

The bottom line......it’s hard to believe statements issued by the administration, in particular Holder’s Justice Dept.


18 posted on 09/29/2011 7:07:08 AM PDT by kenmcg (pROBLEM)
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To: Chainmail

Slow news day.


19 posted on 09/29/2011 7:08:09 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Chainmail

From the pictures last night on TV, the model airplanes are fairly large. I doubt a single one could do more than start a good fire but they’re quite a big bigger than you might think...


20 posted on 09/29/2011 7:16:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Red Badger

But no one was ever in any danger. Isn’t that what they always say?


21 posted on 09/29/2011 7:17:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ElkGroveDan

Not islam, not dangerous. Yep. Got it.


22 posted on 09/29/2011 7:20:38 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: ZULU

FRANCE: Marseilles is now 30-40% Muslim. Excessive violence, riots, and rapes are turning it into a third world city in the heart of Europe

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/france-marseilles-is-now-30-40-muslim-excessive-violence-riots-and-rapes-are-turning-it-into-a-third-world-city-in-the-heart-of-europe/


23 posted on 09/29/2011 7:20:59 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
But no one was ever in any danger. Isn’t that what they always say?

I'm glad he didn't contact the Fast and Furious crew.

24 posted on 09/29/2011 7:29:52 AM PDT by al44
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To: ElkGroveDan

No danger (they say).
Just like them having given grenades to Hezbollah in Mexico
and missiles to Ikhwan in North Africa.

Very smart they are (not).
Now they even conveniently “educated” other terrorists
to what Ferdaus had been teaching locoregionally.

America would be better protected by the Girl Scouts.


25 posted on 09/29/2011 7:57:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Its truly unbelievable how Political Correctness and Arab Oil Money have come together to create a perfect storm of abyssmal helplessness in the west.

Back in the 1700’s before the gangster/thug/police/court/bureaucraic state came into existance, the citizenry could have AND WOULD HAVE taken matters into their own hands and extinguished in one way or the other this menacing threat to their culture, religion and civilization. These miscreants would have all been driven out or killed.

Today, in western society, we have surrendered our individual and collective rights to self-defense to an increasingly detached court system run by self-serving attorneys, and the political creatures who enable them, and who often cross over from the legal world into the political world and back at will, totally monopolizing the control of the state. With the assistance of an increasingly detached and unionized law enforcement establishment, they no longer serve the best interest of society at large, and instead serve the best interests of the juridical/lawyer/politician/bureaucracy which governs the state.

I simply don’t know the answer to this Muslim issue.

If you saw my rants about Chris Christie, one of my issues with him is his Islamophilia. But in this regard, he is not unique. We have been treated for the past three years or so to the results of an Islamophile in the highest office in the land. And there are others - MANY others in both political parties and in every hue of the political spectrum.

At one time in their history, the Byzantines has a similar problem with creeping Islamophilia. I am not sure how they resolved it, but they did. Ultimately, however, they too fell before these totally unconstructed stone age savages.


26 posted on 09/29/2011 8:04:03 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Chainmail
I was waiting for someone to bring this up - so what's the payload on a model airplane?

How long is a piece of string?

Identified as a "An F-86 Sabre remote-controlled aircraft".
So it was probably one of these


27 posted on 09/29/2011 8:05:22 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus' conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion

Really! Islam had NOTHING to do with it

Someone should horsewhip this ignorant turd.

28 posted on 09/29/2011 8:18:31 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: ZULU

“Me and my children choose to follow the faith of Islam. You consistently insult it. How can we expect you to defend our right and practice Islam as far as the Constitution is concerned?” Hamze asked.

“I will always defend your right to practice a free religion under the First Amendment,” West said. “But what you must understand, if I am speaking the truth, I am not going to stop speaking the truth. The truth is not subjective,” he continued to loud applause.

West’s comments on Islam have stirred controversy in the past. He recently said Muslim Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota, represents “the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established.”

The new GOP congressman pulled no punches commenting on the political crisis in Egypt, drawing parallels between the chaos in that country and the 1979 revolution in Iran. West said the U.S. must stop the Egyptian militant group, the Muslim Brotherhood, from seizing power.

“President Carter, President Obama, Iran, Egypt, the Shah, Mubarak, the Ayatollah, the Muslim Brotherhood. It is a scary parallel. We cannot allow the Muslim Brotherhood to fill the void of leadership that can occur in Egypt,” West said.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-01/politics/tea.party.muslim_1_town-hall-muslim-brotherhood-american-islamic-relations?_s=PM:POLITICS

Rep. Allen West gets it. I would love for him to be president, but one man (or woman) can’t change the mind-set of millions.


29 posted on 09/29/2011 8:23:48 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Oztrich Boy

Saw a video documentary once where a pack of c4 the size of a deck of cards was stashed on a grounded, discontinued airliner. The c4 blew the aircraft completely in half.


30 posted on 09/29/2011 8:25:15 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Oztrich Boy; Mashood; Chainmail

Don’t discount the payload that a large model airplane can carry. I have attended model airplane shows and have seen fly quite a number that could carry a 20 pound payload or more. It is no big deal to carry a tiny TV transmitter to give the “pilot” a bird’s eye view. And if you think the propeller models aren’t fast, you should see the little jets that can fly hundreds of miles per hour. Sweet! Technology has evolved to where any competent R/C hobbyist with a few thousand dollars could build a poor man’s cruise missile in his garage. Really, the only thing he lacks is a domestic source of C4, but our porous borders should not pose a problem. Right?


31 posted on 09/29/2011 8:29:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I like West.

But he, like many Occidentals, simply doesn't “get” it. These are not just random acts by individuals acting on their own behalf.

What they are doing is actually acting out the life and commands of Mohammad as carried through to them by the Koran, Haddiths and Islamic tradition and history.

Most individual Muslims do not get involved in acts of violence against the government and Americans - right now. Their numbers here are still too low. But that doesn't mean that in their heart of hearts, they don't support people who do. Their silence is defeaning. Sure, you can quote one or two here or there. But they certainly don't speak for the majority of Muslims.

In nearly every Islamic Country Sharia is the law of the Land. That's not an accident. Its because most Muslims SUPPORT it and Islam requires it. Under Sharia, all non-Muslims become second class citizens. Religions other than Islam are barely tolerated. Public acts of worship by non-Muslims are forbidden. New churches and Synagogues are forbidden. All work must stop during the required prayer periods. Consumption of alcohol and pork, even by non-Muslims, is discouraged and punished, dance is forbidden, clothing is regulated, beards are required of men, dogs are considered “unclean” animals, women become the possessions of their husbands or fathers or brothers, horrific public corporal punishment and mutilations and executions are required for the most trivial offenses, death is the penalty for a Muslim who converts to another religion and death is the penalty for trying to convert a Muslim to another religion.

Think of a state and culture run by the Inquisition on steroids and you have an Islamic society.

And if we tolerate the presence of these people in our midst, they will not rest until they impose that upon us, by force of numbers through immigration and reproduction, and/or use of violence.

Islam is more dangerous than Nazism and in the sum total of the world's history, murdered more Africans, Asians and Europeans than all the fascists dictators killed in the 20th century.

This is not ME speaking. Its HISTORY talking and not ancient history. This happened in Lebanon, once a Christian Arab nation, within the past 50 years and is going on right now as we speak in Egypt (10% of the Egyptian population is Coptic Christian), Ethiopia, Nigeria and other places in the world where there is a large Muslim Population. When their numbers reach a critical mass, its inevitable.

32 posted on 09/29/2011 8:48:56 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: TexasRepublic

Yeah...I used to watch the flyers at Mile Square Park in Fountain Valley, CA. I’ve seen very large model airplanes in videos (B-29s) flying around (youtube)... I guess anythings possible... but the Pentagon is a very BIG building... and the plane would still have to be within frequency range.

Sounds more like talk and imagination than ability to carry it out.


33 posted on 09/29/2011 8:50:42 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: ZULU

Just look at the pastor set to be executed in Iran because he will not renounce his Christianity. Look at Pakistan where muslims kill Christians and burn churches on a regular basis. You don’t have to convince me how evil islam is. I know.


34 posted on 09/29/2011 8:51:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I keep a “journal” of those articles.

When people try to tell me Islam is just another religion - I pull them out.

And Christians are not the only victims of Islam. Animists, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians - you name it - hey have all felt the terror of Islamic hordes.


35 posted on 09/29/2011 8:57:26 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Great models! Would definitely like that last one but I suspect that my piloting skills would have to be upgraded!

All of the others are Electirc Ducted Fans (EDF) and they move quite nicely but are barely capable of carrying more than their receiver, servos and battery! Other than the real deal, no significant payload..

36 posted on 09/29/2011 11:10:41 AM PDT by Chainmail
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