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If medical marijuana is grown, sold, and used in one state, it has nothing to do with interstate commerce, and the Feds. don't have the Constitutional authority to regulate it. Now they're trying to deny Second-Amendment rights to those whose states allow them to posses and use marijuana. Any excuse to grab the guns of law-abiding Americans.
1 posted on 09/29/2011 9:36:00 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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Federal firearm licensees, or FFLs, can't sell a gun to someone who answers "yes" when a required form asks whether the buyer is a controlled substance user.

But FFLs can sell guns, preferable in bulk and of an "assault" nature, to someone who answers "yes" when a required form asks whether the buyer is strawman for a Mexican drug cartel.

2 posted on 09/29/2011 9:39:44 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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ATF cant seem to get anything right...close em down.


3 posted on 09/29/2011 9:40:12 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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But if you want to buy guns to smuggle them over the border..

Well that’s OK then cuz the BATF will just look the other way.


4 posted on 09/29/2011 9:40:41 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: LonelyCon

The issue here is, to me, anyway, is allowing ATF or any other agency so much discretionary power.


5 posted on 09/29/2011 9:41:49 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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What about bear feet?


6 posted on 09/29/2011 9:42:36 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: LonelyCon; bamahead
The government will use ANY excuse to try and deny Second Amendment rights to people, and the fact that they over step to Commerce clause doesn't mean a damn thing to them!

I think this may call for a Libertarian Ping!

7 posted on 09/29/2011 9:42:36 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If Sarah can't be elected in 2012, then Phase II will fall into place, may G-D have mercy on us all)
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To: LonelyCon

Given the vast majority of medical marijuana users are also liberals, I expect this will be changed quickly.


8 posted on 09/29/2011 9:42:57 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I Like The Content of His Character!)
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re: the atf.. this is fast and furious, but too good not to share and didn't want to start a thread..
9 posted on 09/29/2011 9:43:01 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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Druggies will beg borrow and steal to try and put their drug usage in a debate. Sorry Illegal is illegal.
11 posted on 09/29/2011 9:43:44 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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Technically, even prescription drugs are “controlled substances”. It sounds like they could adminstratively declare it also applies to anyone taking any kind of prescription medication if they want to.


13 posted on 09/29/2011 9:45:09 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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Federal law already makes it illegal for someone to possess a gun if he or she is "an unlawful user of, or addicted to" marijuana or other controlled substances.

I'd sure like to see that statute.

How do they determine that without a conviction for the "unlawful" act?.

It takes a felony conviction to lose your right to possess a handgun here. Most states are a mere misdemeanor for usage or possession of pot, aren't they?

14 posted on 09/29/2011 9:45:09 AM PDT by digger48
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ping...kind of along the lines we were discussing


15 posted on 09/29/2011 9:46:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (,FURP....that was easy)
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There is something I don’t quite understand? If a person is allowed to have medical marijuana then it isn’t illegal correct? It is a controlled substance no different than if one is prescribed Tylenol #3 for a toothache or a muscle relaxer for a back condition. So... will ATF deny anyone the right to bear arms if they had been/are currently on any controlled pharmaceutical drug?


16 posted on 09/29/2011 9:49:02 AM PDT by momtothree
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It would be nice if the BATF were to follow the law first. You know, so they could set a good example for the rest of us.

5.56mm

17 posted on 09/29/2011 9:49:43 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Do people with codeine have a right to bear arms? What about oxi? Prescriptions are prescriptions, even if the fed doesn’t like some of them.


18 posted on 09/29/2011 9:51:00 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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I got a Question How many ATF officers smoke pot Cops ,Lawyers,Congressmen and or Congresswomen Firemen,EMS workers ?

How many of them take your life into their hands everyday with a gun or a needle ?

Think about it i bet every person ere knows someone who smokes pot and or has smoked it and don’t think one the less of them for it either because they are friends or because of their standing in the community if you don’t know anyone who smokes pot then you either live a very sheltered life or they hide it from you so you won’t think any lesser of them think about it hard because you know it’s true don’t lie to yourself anymore !


22 posted on 09/29/2011 9:58:12 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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“Federal firearm licensees, or FFLs, can’t sell a gun to someone who answers “yes” when a required form asks whether the buyer is a controlled substance user.”

What is the penalty if you have Marijuana recommendation from a doctor and you answer “no” on the form. What is the chance that you would get caught?


28 posted on 09/29/2011 10:08:47 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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My sister has threatened to kill me.

She takes time-released morphine, and to keep the nausea down, smokes marijuana. Yes, she has a medical license to do so.

At age 55 she was awarded SSI due to a “Personality Disorder”. The holes of inactivity in her brain scans were caused by heavy drug use from the age of 13 on. Decades long studies in Switzerland and Sweden have shown that early teenage use of marijuana causes a 600% chance of an individual developing schizophrenia. She is severely afflicted with bipolar disorder and is borderline schiz. Because she is in constant pain without narcotics, the doctors have prescribed the drugs, and since she has no income, the taxpayer foots all the bills.

And you think a person like my sister should be allowed to have guns?


33 posted on 09/29/2011 10:14:50 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: LonelyCon

Enforce laws on the books.

If the law is unconstitutional challenge it in court.

If you just don’t like it, work to have it removed or superseded.

A large factor in the decline of America and the American culture is the fact we have gone from priding ourselves on being a nation of laws to the point we are now largely a nation of scofflaws.

There is little respect for laws, rules, conventions or traditions. The public sees the corruption, cheating and evasion from the top down throughout our society.

Individuals and organizations from the President and the federal government down to the student copping a joint behind the school believe they should not have to observe or comply with laws they do not like or agree with.

The president, bureaucrats, state governors and others in positions of governmental responsibility regularly and routinely violate their oaths of office and the public trust when they decide which laws they want to enforce and which laws they want to evade, violate or ignore.

Most now seem to subscribe to the Charley Rangel code of ethics: Don’t do as I do, do as I say.


35 posted on 09/29/2011 10:18:55 AM PDT by Iron Munro (A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: onedoug

ping


39 posted on 09/29/2011 10:36:12 AM PDT by windcliff
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